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Old 06-04-2013, 23:53
Simon Rodgers
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I was just wondering, is there any way you can ensure that no-one at all can see what you have done online?
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Old 06-04-2013, 23:57
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There are a lot of variables in answering a question like this.

For the ordinary man wanting to look up some content and being worried, just use what is often jokingly known as "porn mode".

Firefox calls it Private Browsing, Chrome calls it incognito mode and Internet Explorer calls it InPrivate Browsing.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:22
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These days you can get your hands on software that'll hide your IP address, but this won't hide your system leaks. You can set up a high anonymity secure proxy which will act as a go-between. Under ideal circumstances you will connect stealthily. Better still is a proxy chain, which will take a while to set up and you'll have to keep on picking new high speed proxies and then checking via who-is. Forget InPrivate Browsing etc., you're kidding yourself if you think that's hiding your online activities.

You'll have to make sure your own internet security and system is likewise set up so there are no leaks and a good pro firewall too to block all your ports and disable ping etc. You'll need some specialist progs as well to remove all your stats and key presses, logs, usage reports, registry values, etc., and you'll need to remove some stuff manually. Once you have it all set up it will make many websites unavailable to you.

It's no good using proxies from EU countries/USA/Canada etc., as they all have agreements. Japan used to be good but not any more I think. Better using countries that are as lawless as possible.

Here's two examples of proxy lists, so you can get a rough idea. You'll need to do plenty of research and testing. I always used to use HTTP 8080 port proxies in China, Russia and eastern european countries, but that was in the days of diallup.

http://www.hidemyass.com/proxy-list/
http://www.aliveproxy.com/ru-proxy-list/

You can check how much info you are giving away on a site like this: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
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Old 07-04-2013, 09:22
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No you can't 100%. If you just need to keep it private within the confines of your own home and away from family members etc. you can use CCleaner after each session.
If you want to hide it all from Government departments, this would be far trickier. I'd go down the CCleaner route and dump any paranoia. Unless you are indulging in something illegal, no one is really interested in your surfing habits....
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:21
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No you can't 100%. If you just need to keep it private within the confines of your own home and away from family members etc. you can use CCleaner after each session.
If you want to hide it all from Government departments, this would be far trickier.
www.privatetunnnel.net, or similar. It doesn't protect you from two governments acting officially, but it's difficult for the UK government to suborn a US company into revealing its logs (if it has any) without the help of the US government. You can never protect yourself against the official power of multiple governments, but you can protect yourself your own government doing things for which it wouldn't be prepared to ask another government for help.
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:35
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As others have said, you can use one of those systems or something like Tor to keep your info secure. Even then, the site owner might know through cookies that you'd done certain things and requested certain info, though they wouldn't be able to identify you. Your ISP would also be able to see that you're using a particular type of connection, though wouldn't know what you'd done through it.

However, email isn't secure unless you and the recipient are both using the same encryption. Send a message and it'll pass unencrypted from server to server to recipient.

Post a photo anywhere, and it is out in the world forever and can be used by anyone who can find it.

Post on Twitter or Facebook and a reasonably clever person can work out where you live, what you do and where you go. They can probably work out where you're likely to be at a particular point in time.

So that answer is: it depends. Connect to the internet through an anonymous or secure connection, use the internet purely for downloading and not uploading stuff, and keep it on your own PC which is regularly cleaned of such information, and use encryption for any email, then yes you can.

But then, the question becomes - why would you want to use the internet for this? The internet is by it's nature an interactive and social medium. Sending a letter is more secure. Phoning a company for information reveals nothing about you. Going to the library is completely anonymous.
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:39
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A decent VPN service operating out of a country that requires no logging of a users internet is what I'd suggest.
TorrentFreak recently questioned VPN providers on their level of anonymity.
https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-service...dition-130302/
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:48
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your router keeps a log file of all sites visited doesn't it?
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:10
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Ok lets start at the PC - create a custom bootable linux dvd with all the tools you could want on it and then remove the hard drive so everything is ran in memory and theres no chance of anything being written to disk and a swift reboot and all your history has gone

Next the router - have the linux dvd setup to connect to a vpn service outside the uk so the router and your ISP will only know you're slinging data to/from the vpn but not whats inside it as its encrypted and from there use at least another proxy server in some country with lax laws on the retention of proxy details

But all of this is useless if you're going to goto facebook and post a load of tat under your real name

I'd say its possible to get to about 99% privacy if you are very careful but even the guys from lulzsec go found out when they forgot and logged into chat without any protection
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Old 07-04-2013, 17:00
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Use "porn mode" in your browser and only look at the internet in the privacy of your own house. Have you been looking at *those* sites again OP?
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Old 07-04-2013, 17:15
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your router keeps a log file of all sites visited doesn't it?
No. Very few of them have any significant amount of storage to write even error logs to, never mind large connection logs. And how would they be accessed, anyway?
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Old 07-04-2013, 17:45
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Don't forget there is the Sandbox option. The new version of Avast has the option, so does the Comodo internet security suite. In the latter it provides a sandboxed version of Chrome that you can browse in that doesn't store any sites visited, cookies etc.
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Old 07-04-2013, 19:44
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www.privatetunnnel.net, or similar. It doesn't protect you from two governments acting officially, but it's difficult for the UK government to suborn a US company into revealing its logs (if it has any) without the help of the US government. You can never protect yourself against the official power of multiple governments, but you can protect yourself your own government doing things for which it wouldn't be prepared to ask another government for help.
Agreed....but, the question was 100%...
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Old 07-04-2013, 21:11
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OP you can not start from here. You need to buy a new PC, disable all cookies, use it only in non-admin mode, only use search engines which do not spy on you (probably Duck Duck Go would be OK). Do not use email, do not register anywhare, do not buy anything, Obviously do not use what the media call social network sites. Do not use an Internet Service Provider. You can get online using a phone connection to a free service (try Freeola - any username and password will work - find the number to dial using another PC). Download a newsreader and use Usenet instead of the web. You could also make a tablet or PC and use it for a while with fake name, and destroy it

Of course the most important parts are not using Google etc. and not using an ISP, and not joining anything.

Trouble is, that looks suspicious. So you will need to use Norton's or other paid for software so that nobody can sneak on spyware, keyloggers etc.

Those things will ensuure you are close to secure.

The truth is that computers connected up are not secure. It is much better to restrict you need for security, to a specific thing. Work out what it is you want secure, and ensure that is private.
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Old 07-04-2013, 21:23
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You could always use a 3G modem and pay by cash for the top up.
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Old 07-04-2013, 21:55
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You could always use a 3G modem and pay by cash for the top up.
It would be trackable via the fact it would always use certain cell towers and they can use basic triangulation to work out where you are and everything you send in/out would be readable over the 3g link at the base station

Obviously dumping the modem everytime the credit ran out would help but the fact that the signal still comes from the same physical location would make it easy to work out long term

Remember this is for 100% anonymous browsing etc and as such any way of being traced back is open for abuse...disable the dongle and wait for the support call and ask a few questions as loads of people won't want to give up 15 of credit lightly

With enough effort and time i'd say its impossible in this country to stay invisible for a long time as people have habits and thats what catches them but you have to be worth the effort of chasing down and for most people its not worth the spooks time and effort
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Old 07-04-2013, 23:54
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It would be trackable via the fact it would always use certain cell towers and they can use basic triangulation to work out where you are and everything you send in/out would be readable over the 3g link at the base station
If you were really desperate to be anonymous you could go to different places to use it.
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Old 08-04-2013, 00:17
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The OP hasn't been back so I guess he's busy being anonymous. I don't like that anyone spies on my usage and have the usual in place to minimise it. However, I don't think that the paranoia is worth any more than that.
You can't stay off the radar and still lead a normal life with all the creature comforts. Oh, and don't read the Daily Mail or you really will be feeding your paranoia unnecessarily.....
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Old 08-04-2013, 00:35
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Just the Windows firewall, AVG Free and CCleaner will keep you safe enough. Only mugs buy anything with Norton on it.
CCleaner has the added advantage of decluttering your PC, as it's amazing how much crap builds up these days, compared to the days of dial-up.
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