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Old 07-04-2013, 12:10
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So as of today there is now 1 year (plus a couple of hours) until Microsoft finally tap the nail into the coffin of Windows XP and Office 2003. Since XP was such a significant OS for many I thought it would be interesting to have a thread where people can discuss this and the progress they have made, if any, in upgrading. Do you have a plan? Perhaps you are gonna keep XP until the hardware dies or you can afford a new PC? Or maybe even move to another platform like Linux?

All of my personal PCs are sorted as of a few months ago, but in my workplace it is a totally different story. I'd estimate of the entire estate probably about 50% (couple of thousand) is still running XP and its going to take a huge amount of resources to work through them. Some of the clients are the kind that will refuse to spend any money on IT unless it is something that is immediately effecting them so I can see the next 12 months being extremely challenging both in terms of workload and trying to reiterate to people how old some of their equipment actually is.

So what about you guys (and girls)?
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:23
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At work we are being forced down the Win 7 route atm.

Personally I have moved from Win XP to Win 7 and Linux now so only have an XP HDD reformatted about a month ago so I can play some older games on it.

There will be a few smaller companies hanging onto Win Xp for a while
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:27
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Most corporate environments i know have pretty much phased out xp with win 7 with the usual exceptions of expensive kit needing specialist custom drivers and they generally have been segregated from the rest of the world

For some people they're happy and know the risks and thats fair enough but the main driving force will probably be the anti virus companies as they start to warn their customers they are stopping support on the same day as MS they'll have to do something either find a new AV that will keep on supporting XP or upgrade but given 2nd hand machines capable of running win 7 are dirt cheap it shouldn't be too much of a cost
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Old 07-04-2013, 13:47
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Still got XP at work, but then it was only 18 months since they got rid of windows 2000, so I can't see them changing for a while.

Myself I got rid of XP on my main machine when windows 7 came out as beta, but I still got it on a second machine and it will stay on there.

I still know a few people with Xp and unless their computers go belly up they will stay with it and even then they may stay with it.

One person i know got a P4, I can't see him spending money on updating the Os on that and to be honest there is no need to, windows Xp is not going to stop working in 12 months time.

I got windows 8 on my main machine now, but some things still annoy me about it, even with a decent start menu.

Oh yes, Mint linux on Laptop.
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Old 07-04-2013, 13:51
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My brother still has an XP. The only support he's getting for it is from me
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Old 07-04-2013, 15:01
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Having retired myself from MS server support a few years ago, XP was still a good percentage of corporate use then.
From what I hear and read now, it still is quite a significant used OS, consumer/corporate.
http://www.netmarketshare.com/operat...10&qpcustomd=0

I know MS say they will not change the end date, but I feel they may have to do something.
Windows Blue time in June will be a key date for corporates to think about the leap.
For MS to change their mind on the dates, will come down to corporates paying for further extended support, which I doubt will happen. I expect many corporates are just hanging on for free security updates rather than any paid direct support.
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Old 07-04-2013, 15:24
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Many companies are still using XP as there is has been no compelling reason to change.
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Old 07-04-2013, 15:42
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Originally Posted by soulboy77
Many companies are still using XP as there is has been no compelling reason to change.
I think the bigger impact will be determined by how the 3rd parties react. For example when HP decide to stop including XP drivers with their new printers, or if it became impossible to run a modern web browser. Its changes like that which will be more noticeable to the average Joe rather than the Windows Update dialog not popping up anymore.

As someone mentioned in a previous thread there will almost certainly be enough of a market for antivirus vendors to provide some form of limited support afterwards for those that are prepared to pay for it.
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Old 07-04-2013, 16:37
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Many companies are still using XP as there is has been no compelling reason to change.
Well there soon will be in 12 months time.
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Old 07-04-2013, 16:44
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Well there soon will be in 12 months time.
In what way? In 12 months time all that is going to happen is that MS will not provide any more updates, windows Xp will still work fine.

As been said above, what happens in 12 months time depends on third party. Some new hardware already got no drivers for Xp, but old hardware will still work.

There is still hardware that will not work with windows 8 and I mean pretty recent hardware or the drivers are still in beta.
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Old 07-04-2013, 17:04
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I still have an old desktop from 2003 that runs XP and it'll stay on there until the computer snuffs it completely. It's a P4 with an 80GB hard drive and 512MB RAM and there's no way it would run Windows 7 or 8 unless it was upgraded and it's not worth it. I don't use it much any more except for games.
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Old 07-04-2013, 17:22
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Still running XP here and will continue to, until I choose to replace it, stopped using IE ages ago and will just keep my browser up-to-date for as long as I can.

I very much doubt not getting updates will make much impact on most people, just one less hassle

I think microsoft are banking on people getting scared and upgrading, which will probably mean getting a new PC that can run a more recent OS in a lot of cases
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Old 07-04-2013, 17:39
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I think most XP installations will die out naturally. There's a lot of people who do not upgrade their OS or computer at every opportunity. Until it falls apart it stays.
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Old 07-04-2013, 23:36
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Well there soon will be in 12 months time.
How so? Our particular organisation has all it's development and security handled by a multi-national IT company and we will not be migrating from XP for the foreseeable future. By foreseeable I'm talking about a 5 year cycle. We have bespoke software written specifically for the XP platform. The development costs of changing would be prohibitive. We have been told there is no imperative for us to change.
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Old 08-04-2013, 00:01
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Despite good take up of Win 7, XP will be around for a longgggg time in the corporate world.
Noticed last year that a local Barclays was still using Win 2000 in branch!
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Old 08-04-2013, 06:45
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tesco still use xp on there checkouts, can forsee either a mass panic migration to 7 or no one bothering lol
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:14
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I think most XP installations will die out naturally. There's a lot of people who do not upgrade their OS or computer at every opportunity. Until it falls apart it stays.
For home users certainly, not sure about corporate. I suppose it depends on what drivers they can get for new machines when old ones fail.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:34
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XP for embedded devices like tills/ATM machines etc is still available till December 2016 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembe...d-of-life.aspx
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:12
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didnt know that thank maxtoria so what will happen after that date then
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:23
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XP for embedded devices like tills/ATM machines etc is still available till December 2016
I should imagine that that won't make any difference anyway, since those machines aren't meant to be connected to the
public internet. General security update support against vulnerabilities than can exploited via the internet are still going
to end in April next year. Regular computers running any version of Windows XP that remain exposed to the internet
after the cut-off date this time next year will gradually become dangerously insecure over time.

If you really must run Windows XP for any reason after next April, either keep it offline, or run it in a virtual machine.

I maintain my stance that anyone still running Windows XP online as their primary OS from next April, and refuses to
get rid of it despite all the warnings, deserve everything the internet throws at their systems ... and no sympathy.


As my Dad would say ... fools wanted, fools found.
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:54
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I think most XP installations will die out naturally. There's a lot of people who do not upgrade their OS or computer at every opportunity. Until it falls apart it stays.
I fall into this category pretty much. I'm on Win 7 now as that's what the current OS was 18 months ago when I last got a new PC. Plus, being an MS-centric developer I have to move up an OS fairly soon after MS stop releasing new dev tools and apps for the OS I'm currently using.
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Old 08-04-2013, 13:03
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There's an article about this today on V3:
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/22596...support-cutoff
"About 40 percent of business desktops are still running Windows XP"
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Old 08-04-2013, 13:07
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While I agree that Win XP is still great but I don't see any reason why wouldnt you guys change to at least Win7. Sure WinXP is great but Windows in overall is just like that all the time. It's not expensive to upgrade
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Old 08-04-2013, 18:40
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XP for embedded devices like tills/ATM machines etc is still available till December 2016 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembe...d-of-life.aspx
Interesting...
"Windows XP Pro for Embedded Systems contains the same software bits and operates identically to Windows XP Pro. Windows XP Pro for Embedded Systems has licensing restrictions which restrict its use to an embedded solution. Windows XP Pro is used for general purpose PCís. Windows XP Pro for Embedded Systems is used for embedded systems such as ATMís, kiosks, medical devices and industrial controllers".

What sort of equipment that would that be? I thought Microsoft didn't recommend using Windows for "mission critical" applications.
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Old 08-04-2013, 18:52
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The World Of Work, is when it comes to IT, rather backwards. there are many people still working with Internet Explorer 6 - and cannot move on as their [rather backwards] internal business websites / systems etc tied to IE6. Where IE6 is the default browser with XP.
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