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Old 17-08-2013, 12:27
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Sorry, but I've just watched "Super 8" I've tried, and failed misereably in the past, to watch his versions of Star Trek.

WTF is it with his ridiculous obsession with adding stupid "light glares/flares/flashes" onto the screen???

It's distracting, annoying and down right crap IMHO.

There you go. I said it.
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Old 17-08-2013, 12:30
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Why does it make him an ass? It makes his directing style annoying, but I wouldn't say he's an ass because of it. It's no different to Spielberg's spotlight fetish.
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Old 17-08-2013, 13:11
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I believe he is brilliant, loved lost, Super 8, fringe.. Etc
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Old 17-08-2013, 13:56
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I can't resist saying that I too cannot stand anything by this director. I had friends that would rave over Lost, yet every time I attempted to watch it I found it to be nothing more than a nonsensical pile of childish jibberish. People kept saying "oh but you've gotta watch it through to the end, he's got a really great idea for the ending, it will all make sense then." I didn't bother, and when I heard fans were baffled by how it did end, frankly it was no surprise.

I also can't stand other crap he's done on TV like Alias, his films, Mission Impossible 3 was it? God just watching the interviews alone with him and Tom Cruise smugly congratulating one another all the way before the film was even released was a sickening puke fest.

And whilst I am not a Trekkie, I did always respect the intelligence of Star Trek and enjoyed it whenever I have watched it in its various incarnations. This moron degenerated all and turned Star Trek into a brainless juvenile pile of crap that people who like the Transformers films would enjoy. If that's "genius" its not a genius I care for. Apparently the latest one didn't do quite as well as they thought it would. I dunno maybe the problem is people have found him out and don't want to watch reboots that are inferior to the original?

Whatever anybody thinks of George Lucas, he is light years ahead of this clown. Some might say Star Wars has already gone beyond parody anyway, but I genuinely fear how bad he'll make the Star Wars series if he's given enough creative control to do so. At least Lucas had a vision and was inspired by the greats like Akira Kurosawa. JJ Abrams has probably never watched a Kurosawa film or for that matter any film made before he was born, and only seems to be inspired by recent pop culture, hence why all his films are so shallow and bad.

That said compared to the other overrated nerd directors of our era, I'm talking the likes of Joss Whedon and Zack Snyder, he's probably like Shakespeare in contrast to them as they are even more shallow, comic book influenced rather than real literature and creatively bankrupt. He is the best of a talentless bunch, and perhaps his greatest skill is he can charm the Tom Cruises of this world so he keeps getting work.
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Old 17-08-2013, 14:01
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I can't wait to see how much he ****s up Star Wars, i bet they are even worse than Attack of the Clones
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Old 17-08-2013, 14:26
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I reckon Abrams' Star Wars will be about attractive, hip young adults learning the ropes. Their words-of-wisdom elders will be previous cast members, bringing gravitas amidst all the flirting. They all wear tight fitting clothes - think future GAP - and fly spaceships that resemble Apple Stores. The villian has a touch of moody emo goth about them. Possibly a Brit.
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Old 17-08-2013, 15:17
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I think he is vastly over-rated, but good luck to him. He seems to make money for whoever hires him.
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Old 17-08-2013, 15:38
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I was thinking this about Alfred Hitchcock only last week, putting himself in every film!

Over-rated ass! North by Northwest was tedious and Cary Grant criminally mugging it up, and that Eva Maria-Saint is no Jennifer Lawrence!
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Old 17-08-2013, 16:31
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Sorry, but I've just watched "Super 8" I've tried, and failed misereably in the past, to watch his versions of Star Trek.

WTF is it with his ridiculous obsession with adding stupid "light glares/flares/flashes" onto the screen???

It's distracting, annoying and down right crap IMHO.

There you go. I said it.
/rant
I have a thing about director trademarks. If you can't easily spot them or think it's funny or clever when/if you spot them then fine. A phone number, license plate, room number etc.

It's different with things that are totally in your face like the lens flare. They are just annoying.
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Old 17-08-2013, 19:06
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I've never liked any of his TV shows, but I enjoy the modern Star Trek films. Then again, that's probably because I couldn't give a flying one about previous iterations of Star Trek and whether or not the new films are as good as them/faithful to them/whatever.

I won't be watching the new Star Wars movies, because I've only watched one of the other six and that was as boring as sin.
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Old 17-08-2013, 19:09
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Funny apart from directing the pilots of lost and fringe he didnt really have much to do with them :/
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Old 17-08-2013, 20:39
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I loved Alias and the original concept of LOST but Super 8 was absolute drivel .
Abrams more often than not is a producer / creator and not a director so you can't always lay the irritating bits at his feet.
Lost got lost thanks to the writers.
The Trek movie was ok and I'm only just reaching the end of the first season of Fringe although even for an X-Files fan this series stretches credibility a bit too far at times.

Thought his Mission Impossible stuff was great even though it started with the irritating idea that he often used in Alias which was to basically start in the middle of the story - stop at an exciting moment then present you with a "48 Hours Earlier" caption so you then take another hour to get to where you started.
He is talented but he does have some irritating styles
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Old 17-08-2013, 21:03
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JJ is a GOD leave him alone. The new Star Wars will be better than the prequels by a mile as JJ is a lifelong Star Wars fan so he knows what the public wants.
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Old 17-08-2013, 21:03
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I like some of his things not all of them. When I was younger I really enjoyed Forever Young and I still like Regarding Henry now. I enjoyed Alias although later seasons began to bore me at times.

I have to say that I prefer it when I see written by JJ Abrams rather than Directed but I am not put off by his direction (lens flare can be off putting but I can deal with it )
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Old 17-08-2013, 21:08
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Whoop, a slag off the director thread. The constants lens flare jokes on the Star Trek thread were annoying, but this is a pisstake.

Directors should be considered on their ability to tell a story, not whether they like making things shiny...

Tarantino has similar trademark shots used in most of his films, does he slagged off for them? No, he gets celebrated...
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Old 17-08-2013, 21:11
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Like most directors, I like some of his stuff and dislike others.

Actually that goes for actors / actresses / singers / etc. etc.

I guess that makes him an ass ...... or human !
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Old 17-08-2013, 21:23
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'I really loved star trek but I hated the series and other movies'....

For allowing muggles this opinion alone j.j. Abrams should be found guilty. The prosecution rests m'lud.
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Old 17-08-2013, 21:39
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I loved Alias and the original concept of LOST but Super 8 was absolute drivel .
Abrams more often than not is a producer / creator and not a director so you can't always lay the irritating bits at his feet.
Lost got lost thanks to the writers.
The Trek movie was ok and I'm only just reaching the end of the first season of Fringe although even for an X-Files fan this series stretches credibility a bit too far at times.

Thought his Mission Impossible stuff was great even though it started with the irritating idea that he often used in Alias which was to basically start in the middle of the story - stop at an exciting moment then present you with a "48 Hours Earlier" caption so you then take another hour to get to where you started.
He is talented but he does have some irritating styles
If you think the first season of fringe is like that you should just give up now, it gets even weirder, but IMO it's excellent one of the best sci fi shows in recent memory.
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Old 18-08-2013, 00:49
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That said compared to the other overrated nerd directors of our era, I'm talking the likes of Joss Whedon and Zack Snyder, he's probably like Shakespeare in contrast to them as they are even more shallow, comic book influenced rather than real literature and creatively bankrupt. He is the best of a talentless bunch, and perhaps his greatest skill is he can charm the Tom Cruises of this world so he keeps getting work.
Joss Whedon gave us Firefly, Buffy, The Avengers, Dr Horrible and Toy Story. I think he deserves all the credit he gets.
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Old 18-08-2013, 00:54
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Joss Whedon gave us Firefly, Buffy, The Avengers, Dr Horrible and Toy Story. I think he deserves all the credit he gets.
You know he's not the same person as JJ Abrams, right?
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Old 18-08-2013, 01:10
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You know he's not the same person as JJ Abrams, right?
I was the first person to respond to the OP. My second post was in regards to the person who mentioned Whedon. I should have quoted, but I thought it would be obvious what I was responding to. I'll edit
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Old 18-08-2013, 06:30
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Whoop, a slag off the director thread. The constants lens flare jokes on the Star Trek thread were annoying, but this is a pisstake.

Directors should be considered on their ability to tell a story, not whether they like making things shiny...

Tarantino has similar trademark shots used in most of his films, does he slagged off for them? No, he gets celebrated...
Then perhaps he should stop with the constant OTT lens effects, every time a light or reflection of light is in shot.
It merely draws your attention away from the "story".

It reminds me of those idiot "documentary" makers who give the camera a false "shake & zoom movement" on purpose to add some sort of effect. The Real Hustle (BBC) is particularly bad at this.

Do these producers/directors sit at home moving their head about like an Alzheimer sufferer all the time when looking at thing?

Probably not.
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Old 18-08-2013, 07:57
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Funny apart from directing the pilots of lost and fringe he didnt really have much to do with them :/
THIS! I love the way people use Lost as a stick to bash Abrams with when he had little to do with it beyond the initial concept.

I've enjoyed most of Abrams' work, and I think Super 8 is a wonderful film, it must be nice to be in the position JJ finds himself in where he can make a full-budget Hollywood film as a big "Thank You" to Spielberg for everything he did in the 80s.
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Old 18-08-2013, 07:59
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LOL, Joss Whedon "creatively bankrupt"; that's the greatest thing I've ever read on the internet.
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Old 18-08-2013, 08:45
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Funnily enough I watched Super 8 last night and fell asleep halfway through. I thought his work on the Trek films was excellent and liked most of Lost but I didn't like Super 8 at all - it was just Cloverfield meets ET.
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