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Old 08-04-2013, 15:53
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Finally got through this today.
An amazing 4 hour documentary looking at the whole series from conception to the 2003 Freddy vs Jason. Each film gets a good sized chunk of time devoted to it looking at script Ida's, casting, production, reception etc.
Even though several of the Elm Street films are poor it's still very interesting to hear the background to them especially with New Line Studios being, at the time, a very new and independent company.

If you're a fan of Elm Street or horror films in general you'll definitely get something out of watching this.

There's been a glut of horror documentaries over the last five or six years, some good some just ok:

His Name Was Jason
The Psycho Legacy
Going To Pieces
The Curse Of The Omen
Nightmares In Red, White and Blue
Halloween, 25 Years of Terror
The Shark Is Still Working
Still Screaming

They are currently making another Friday the 13th documentary called Crystal Lake Memories, based on the brilliant book of the same name.
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Old 08-04-2013, 19:32
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just watched most of it, pretty interesting stuff

i didn't realise there other nightmare cast members from the sequels at the funeral scene in wes craven new nightmare

and will never for get that nurse in no 3
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Old 08-04-2013, 19:44
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Thank you for the recommendation, I have just ordered it (7.00 from Amazon). I'm looking forward to watching it.
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Old 08-04-2013, 20:10
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just watched most of it, pretty interesting stuff

i didn't realise there other nightmare cast members from the sequels at the funeral scene in wes craven new nightmare

and will never for get that nurse in no 3
That's funny you mention about the funeral scene as I never realised that too.

@LouKelly - hope you enjoy it. If you can't watch it in one go then the segments make it easy to stop and restart later.
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Old 08-04-2013, 20:14
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@LouKelly - hope you enjoy it. If you can't watch it in one go then the segments make it easy to stop and restart later.
Yes, I'll watch it in a few segments. I've seen there is a sequel as well, "Never Sleep Again 2" (stranglely ) but I think it focuses more on Nancy and hasn't got good reviews.
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Old 08-04-2013, 20:27
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Yes, I'll watch it in a few segments. I've seen there is a sequel as well, "Never Sleep Again 2" (stranglely ) but I think it focuses more on Nancy and hasn't got good reviews.
Yeah, I'll probably watch it at some point but I'm not in a rush.
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Old 08-04-2013, 22:21
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I just finished watching it for the 2nd time. Such a fantastic documentary. Really interesting.

I enjoyed all the stories about on set tensions and the various script rewrites. Also, I like that the majority of the sequels were pretty much made up as they were filming because the timescale was so tight and they didn't even have a finished screenplay.

I also looooooooved to hear them talk about the proposed ending for Freddy Vs Jason, where Pinhead's chains come out and drag them both to hell. That would have been amazing, but alas was not to be.

It's a documentary that I know I'll revisit multiple times over the years. They did such a good job of it.
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Old 09-04-2013, 21:01
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I bought this on Amazon after seeing this thread. It's an incredible documentary, I love how they were honest with their views and weren't afraid of mentioning the lack of quality of the later sequels. I learnt a few new things too, I never knew that Nightmare 5 was rushed so much and didn't even have a proper script! Bob shaye comes across as a bit of a prick though. I enjoyed the insight into the development of Freddy vs Jason, some of the original ideas were very bizzare. What happened to Tuesday Knight? She looks like a completely different person.
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Old 09-04-2013, 21:16
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I bought this on Amazon after seeing this thread. It's an incredible documentary, I love how they were honest with their views and weren't afraid of mentioning the lack of quality of the later sequels. I learnt a few new things too, I never knew that Nightmare 5 was rushed so much and didn't even have a proper script! Bob shaye comes across as a bit of a prick though. I enjoyed the insight into the development of Freddy vs Jason, some of the original ideas were very bizzare. What happened to Tuesday Knight? She looks like a completely different person.
I'm glad to have helped inspire you to buy it and enjoy it - that was the idea

Yes, Tuesday Knight did look very odd. What about the girl from Freddy's Dead who have the bloody face and girl resting her head on her lap - that was odd.
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Old 09-04-2013, 21:28
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Amazon should be paying you for advertising lol. Oh yeah she was strange too, I couldn't work out if she dresses like that normally or if she was shooting a movie or something. I'm guessing she's a lesbian and that girl on her lap was her girlfriend.
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Old 13-04-2013, 20:16
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OK, am I the only one who didn't see any homoerotic undertones in ANOES Part II?! I do now

I'm only up to ANOES 3 as I'm watching it in segments.
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Old 14-04-2013, 11:03
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Part 2 is just the most cringeworthy, awful piece of trash. I absolutely hate it. I don't particularly rate 4,5 or 6 either, but they're infinitely more enjoyable than 2.

And I find it very hard to believe that every single person involved in that film failed to see the glaringly obvious homoerotic undertones. It's really just a diabolical movie.
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Old 05-06-2013, 21:03
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It was excellent. I love stuff like this.

There is a two hour documentary about Jaws, another good one. And about Silence Of The Lambs. Excellent stuff.
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Old 06-06-2013, 19:50
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ANOES was Johnny Depp's very first movie role I believe
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Old 07-06-2013, 16:22
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ANOES was Johnny Depp's very first movie role I believe
Didn't he turn up with a friend who was auditioning and they chose Johnny who wasn't even going up for the part? Or maybe I'm thinking of another actor who started that way?!
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Old 07-06-2013, 17:59
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Didn't he turn up with a friend who was auditioning and they chose Johnny who wasn't even going up for the part? Or maybe I'm thinking of another actor who started that way?!
I'm pretty sure it was Johnny.
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Old 07-06-2013, 19:21
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I borrowed this from a pal who got it with a signed poster from pHeather Langencamp from some Facebook thing
I've seen this and like it very much
Wish it was an extra as part of the recent Bluray release of the movies out last year.
Want to see The Friday 13th one and the Halloween one
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Old 08-06-2013, 00:18
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I'm pretty sure it was Johnny.
Thanks, I was doubting myself there!
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Old 08-06-2013, 00:21
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O/T completely, and random. But does anyone else think the actress who played Nancy's mum is the double of Lady Gaga?lol
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Old 08-06-2013, 19:10
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It was excellent. I love stuff like this.

There is a two hour documentary about Jaws, another good one. And about Silence Of The Lambs. Excellent stuff.
is that available on a dvd as an extra ?
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Old 08-06-2013, 20:02
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is that available on a dvd as an extra ?
if its this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shark_Is_Still_Working then it is on the Blu Ray edition
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Old 08-06-2013, 22:21
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This Elm Street doco is like four hours long. It's awesome.
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Old 10-06-2013, 20:16
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Didn't he turn up with a friend who was auditioning and they chose Johnny who wasn't even going up for the part? Or maybe I'm thinking of another actor who started that way?!
i think you mean bob hoskins? im sure i read somewhere in an interview (with bob hoskins) thats how he got into acting.
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Old 11-06-2013, 20:33
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the scream doc is on you tube as are a few of the others in that list
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:21
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I enjoyed this documentary very much as a fan of the series (obviously more a fan of certain entries than others ..... it's all about the original, 3rd one and New Nightmare for me). So disappointed there was no Patricia Arquette interview ; one of the main reasons I felt the 4th film was a letdown after Dream Warriors was because she didn't reprise her role in it.
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