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Old 08-04-2013, 20:51
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http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news...expands-112382

O2 has joined Vodafone and EE in allowing free access to Virgin Media's wifi network. Good news for you Londoners.

Only Three don't offer this now.

I wonder if and when the networks will provide their own mobile service over 3G on the tube network, there's been talk of it for a long time.
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Old 08-04-2013, 20:59
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http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news...expands-112382

O2 has joined Vodafone and EE in allowing free access to Virgin Media's wifi network. Good news for you Londoners.

Only Three don't offer this now.

I wonder if and when the networks will provide their own mobile service over 3G on the tube network, there's been talk of it for a long time.
Honestly do Three need to provide it when they offer unlimited data anyway.
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Old 08-04-2013, 21:00
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Honestly do Three need to provide it when they offer unlimited data anyway.
Does data work on the Underground?
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Old 08-04-2013, 21:02
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Does data work on the Underground?
I think that was a question you already knew the answer to
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Old 08-04-2013, 21:04
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I think that was a question you already knew the answer to
Agreed but even though it doesn't work when you underground can use it again when you above ground it doesn't seem a be all and end all thing. Maybe three will add it as well but I can't see them losing customers if they don't
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Old 08-04-2013, 21:05
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Nice. Although I'm not sure how useful it will be for me.
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Old 08-04-2013, 21:07
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Nice. Although I'm not sure how useful it will be for me.
It won't effect a lot of people in fairness it's a handy thing to have I guess but only if you living in london.
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Old 08-04-2013, 21:08
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How the frig can somebody use a handheld device on the underground

In the tram - Most days its squashed up against each other,flying side to side trying to keep balance.

On the ground,your always moving about

Dont see the point of it
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Old 08-04-2013, 21:15
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How the frig can somebody use a handheld device on the underground

In the tram - Most days its squashed up against each other,flying side to side trying to keep balance.

On the ground,your always moving about

Dont see the point of it
When I'm on London like I will be at the end of the month i'll be using the tube, it will be handy when waiting at stations for the next one to arrive.

It can be quite handy to check Twitter or refresh your email to read when you go into the tunnel I guess. I don't think the wifi actually works in the tunnels?

Before the wifi I was still able to refresh things outside and then use my phone while on a 20 or 30 minute tube journey. It really does help pass the time.
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Old 08-04-2013, 21:20
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If you're unfortunate enough to suffer any extended delays between trains, then it'll keep you occupied for a few minutes if you haven't got a book / paper available. In the carriages, you can pick up a wifi signal as you pass between stations and when you stop.. enough to send a WhatsApp message to say you're delayed etc, or pick up your emails.

It's mainly useful though for your ongoing journey, if you're planning a day out and want to see local attractions. If they could get some form of mobile wifi in carriages, that'd be cool.
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Old 08-04-2013, 21:20
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How the frig can somebody use a handheld device on the underground

In the tram - Most days its squashed up against each other,flying side to side trying to keep balance.

On the ground,your always moving about

Dont see the point of it
It's only at the stations not in between
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Old 08-04-2013, 21:54
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Wi-Fi access is a bonus but not a substitute for good coverage as it's range is generally pretty limited. fine when it's provided free but there are often variences on what Wi-Fi customers can access. Vodafone give a decent allowance but it's limited to BT's public hotspots not their BT Fon network of customer sharing Wi-Fi which BT keep for their own subscribers.

Wi-Fi seems to have a role to play in public places and the more customers that can get access to it the better. In many countries public Wi-Fi offers a good alternative for unmetered data in towns and cities, often supported by connection advertising its a decent option for those lucky enough to live or work within range of it for keeping in touch with social networks etc.
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Old 08-04-2013, 22:09
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Wi-Fi access is a bonus but not a substitute for good coverage as it's range is generally pretty limited. fine when it's provided free but there are often variences on what Wi-Fi customers can access. Vodafone give a decent allowance but it's limited to BT's public hotspots not their BT Fon network of customer sharing Wi-Fi which BT keep for their own subscribers.

Wi-Fi seems to have a role to play in public places and the more customers that can get access to it the better. In many countries public Wi-Fi offers a good alternative for unmetered data in towns and cities, often supported by connection advertising its a decent option for those lucky enough to live or work within range of it for keeping in touch with social networks etc.
Reason i'm with three it a lot better than tracking down wi-fi and is as fast at times
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Old 08-04-2013, 22:13
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An always on fast cellular data connection is best, maybe one day the networks will team up to cover the underground like some other underground systems have I believe.
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Old 08-04-2013, 22:15
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Reason i'm with three it a lot better than tracking down wi-fi and is as fast at times
Not the answer for everyone though as coverage is variable as is data performance across the country. If you live in a rural area where there is no 3G then 3 is not an option as much of the GSM roaming has been discontinued.

Folks have to chose according to their needs and there are lots of options for different situations. Free Wi-Fi is by no means a substitute to good network coverage but it's a good additonal extra that should not be dismissed as irrelevant especially when it is included at no extra charge by some operators.
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Old 08-04-2013, 22:19
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Not the answer for everyone though as coverage is variable as is data performance across the country. If you live in a rural area where there is no 3G then 3 is not an option as much of the GSM roaming has been discontinued.
And in such a case free wi-fi would probably also be useless!
Sure, in larger towns and such you get quite a lot of places offering wifi hotspots. But in the rural areas you seem to be talking about, at least in my experience very few places offer wifi.
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Old 08-04-2013, 22:31
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Combined with Tugo you could even make or receive a call or send SMS while waiting for the Tube of course.
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Old 08-04-2013, 22:44
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And in such a case free wi-fi would probably also be useless!
Sure, in larger towns and such you get quite a lot of places offering wifi hotspots. But in the rural areas you seem to be talking about, at least in my experience very few places offer wifi.
Thank you I completely agree with that one even some minor cities are like that with having maybe one or two in places like mcdonalds or starbucks which are free anyway.

WI-FI is only really wide spread in the big cities like London, Manchester, Birmingham and those sort of places you will get good 3G signal anyway with most networks so you don't need us them if you have an unlimited data plan.
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Old 08-04-2013, 22:59
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Wow, WiFi + O2 TU Go = unleashed power
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Old 08-04-2013, 23:31
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I don't find it that useful. I'm generally only waiting one or two minutes for the train to appear on the platform, by the time it connects to the WiFi, then I open a webpage and click the "continue online" button, the train is there!

My Windows Phone is pretty good at auto-locking on to the WiFi signal, I find the iPhone to be piss poor in this respect. It seems to wait for me to burrow into the WiFi settings before it decides to scan for available WiFi networks.

Also, all Virgin Media broadband customers get the WiFi. Some portion of the Three userbase will have Virgin broadband and be covered that way. Of the remainder, only some will care about data and not have virgin.
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Old 09-04-2013, 00:19
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Not the answer for everyone though as coverage is variable as is data performance across the country. If you live in a rural area where there is no 3G then 3 is not an option as much of the GSM roaming has been discontinued.
Discontinued because they think it is equivalent to GSM. Maybe it isn't for everyone, but 3 have invested to provide a network where you have a decent chance of getting a 3G signal in a rural area.

I understand other networks have challenges with this and if you are a customer of theirs you may not get a 3G signal.

I have just drove around a load of backroads near where I live (already fairly rural), the population density must be tiny. Yet my phone displayed nothing less than 3 bars of EE 3G (yes bars are not a proper measurement but that's still quite good) and absolutely no break up of the internet radio station I was streaming. I doubt two of our networks could achieve this.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:07
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I'm pretty sure the Hong Kong underground (MTR) has had cell signal for about ten years now. Why is London so behind on the times?
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Old 09-04-2013, 14:01
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I'm pretty sure the Hong Kong underground (MTR) has had cell signal for about ten years now. Why is London so behind on the times?
One or 2 in the US have as well, I think Washington DC is one of them. It's a very nice underground system with trains with carpets and music playing, nice and quiet too.
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Old 15-04-2013, 22:16
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http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news...expands-112382

O2 has joined Vodafone and EE in allowing free access to Virgin Media's wifi network. Good news for you Londoners.

Only Three don't offer this now.

I wonder if and when the networks will provide their own mobile service over 3G on the tube network, there's been talk of it for a long time.
O2 TUGO, BT smart talk and UMA over wifi allow you to use your phone as normal, no need for wasting money on masts
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Old 16-04-2013, 15:38
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Its bad enough travelling in often packed carriages that are hot smelly without having the annoyance of idiots shouting down their phones.
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