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Old 11-04-2013, 02:57
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Wrestling is not fake, it is staged.


If wrestling is fake, then explain the following after reading it:


http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/26/us...ing-death.html


http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-277536.html


http://www.bullshido.net/forums/arch...p/t-27654.html


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...6937751&page=1




If, after all that, there are some that still believe that wrestling is fake, then let me give you the following:


1. You will never understand it.

2. Star Trek is fake.

3. Doctor Who is fake.

4. Eastenders is fake.

5. Knight Rider is fake.

6. The Terminator is fake.

7. Robocop is fake.

8. Star Wars is fake.

9. The Lord Of The Rings is fake.

10. James Bond is fake.



So, remember:


Wrestling is not fake, it is staged.

Is wrestling real?


Read through the links that I've posted and then you will get the answer.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:03
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That's all very well and good, but harp on about it and you're one step away from it's still real to me damn it.

And Doctor Who is real, 100%. It actually happens.


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Old 11-04-2013, 03:18
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That's all very well and good, but harp on about it and you're one step away from it's still real to me damn it.

And Doctor Who is real, 100%. It actually happens.




If Doctor Who is real, answer the following:


1. Does Time Travel exist?

2. Can you go from Leeds to London in 5 minutes, with the TARDIS, you can, without the TARDIS?
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:30
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You can go from Earth to Gallifrey in about 10 minutes in a TARDIS, and that's 250 million light years. This is assuming the McGann movie is canon and I'm remembering it correctly. Short hops are more tricky.

This is a bit off topic though.
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:31
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Wrestling is theatre, it's acting, the same way as most TV programmes are.

I thought, generally, everyone these days knew that. Fans and non fans alike.
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:11
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The OP missed this one in his links by the way, Hogan guillotining a guy on tv the week before Wrestlemania 1. Wrestling is real and scary.

Belzer apparently won $5 million in the subsequent court case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7n_SHrK408
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:49
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The OP missed this one in his links by the way, Hogan guillotining a guy on tv the week before Wrestlemania 1. Wrestling is real and scary.

Belzer apparently won $5 million in the subsequent court case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7n_SHrK408
Ouch
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:54
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Oh dear.

If you can be entertained by people talking at length about what they are going to do to each other and their totally fake deep rooted feuds with each other followed by a choreographed fake so called fight that looks like a Punch and Judy show but only more far fetched............that is absolutely fine but please accept it for what it is:

A staged performance of pretend fighting preceded by staged,ridiculous looking( and badly acted) hot air from all of those involved.....nothing more,nothing less.Ridiculous and as real as kid's cartoon.
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:55
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Funnily enough the consensus is that may have been a positive for WWF, as they probably got more than $5 million worth of publicity out of it for it the week before Wrestlemania.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:13
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Whatever it is I grew out of wrestling when I was about 12.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:31
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Yes it is! It's also shit and aimed at children!
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:28
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I used to enjoy Bret Hart's schtick back in the day...
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:42
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Oh dear.

If you can be entertained by people talking at length about what they are going to do to each other and their totally fake deep rooted feuds with each other followed by a choreographed fake so called fight that looks like a Punch and Judy show but only more far fetched............that is absolutely fine but please accept it for what it is:

A staged performance of pretend fighting preceded by staged,ridiculous looking( and badly acted) hot air from all of those involved.....nothing more,nothing less.Ridiculous and as real as kid's cartoon.
As "ridiculous" as 99% of rubbish on tv.

Take it you would be willing to go into a ring and learn these fake moves and fake pain
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:15
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I hate topics like this, it's obvious what answers your going to get. Anyway, I'll add my opinion.

I've watched wrestling for years, I never "grew out of it" (hate that phrase) because wrestling grew up with me, when it was aimed at the kids in the late 80's early 90's I was a kid, it then morphed into been for males aged between 18 and 25 from about 1997 onwards, it just so happens I was around that age at that time, so I never stopped watching.

As for it been fake, yes we all know the outcomes of the matches are pre-determined and the wrestlers work together to put on a match thats entertaining but the sport can be dangerous and people get hurt all the time. I see wrestling matches as a form of dance but with high impact contact, as that is all it is really.

At the end of the day I don't think anyone would watch wrestling without the storylines, the storylines make people care about a feud or wrestler, the storylines are the key I believe.
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:39
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Wrestling is fine for an entertainment, if you like that sort of thing, just don't pretend / believe it's a genuine sport. Imagine if the FA Cup, or Wimbledon, or The Olympics themselves, were 'staged' in the same manner as wrestling. Only Fozzie Bear and Kermit would bother watching any of it.

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Old 11-04-2013, 12:06
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Wrestling is fine for an entertainment, if you like that sort of thing, just don't pretend / believe it's a genuine sport. Imagine if the FA Cup, or Wimbledon, or The Olympics themselves, were 'staged' in the same manner as wrestling. Only Fozzie Bear and Kermit would bother watching any of it.

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Should be said though that all of those sports would benefit if at least some of the athletes had some "pro wrestling" in them, as high as the standard of play at Wimbledon is today, people still yearn for the days of babyface Bjorn Borg and heel John McEnroe. And with all these British Olympic heroes popping up on TV, they're going to need to actually grow some personality if they want to stay in the industry because just being a medalist won't cut it in the long run.

And the greatest example is Muhammad Ali, who coupled his extraordinary talent with a flamboyant persona based on the wrestler Gorgeous George. Probably the biggest sports star of all time and pro wrestling played a huge part in that.
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:33
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Oh dear.

If you can be entertained by people talking at length about what they are going to do to each other and their totally fake deep rooted feuds with each other followed by a choreographed fake so called fight that looks like a Punch and Judy show but only more far fetched............that is absolutely fine but please accept it for what it is:

A staged performance of pretend fighting preceded by staged,ridiculous looking( and badly acted) hot air from all of those involved.....nothing more,nothing less.Ridiculous and as real as kid's cartoon.
people could say the same about eastenders and corrie...do you watch those?
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Old 11-04-2013, 13:07
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Wait, what? I thought Doctor Who was a documentary.
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Old 11-04-2013, 13:08
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Can you bet on the outcome of a Wrestling Match? A quick trawl through some bookmakers' sites suggest not.

Most of them imply you can bet on almost anything as long as there's more than one possible conclusion.

So Wrestling may be 'real' insofar as it takes a lot of training, stamina and effort but 'fake' because the outcome is never in doubt.
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Old 11-04-2013, 13:15
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of course its fake
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Old 11-04-2013, 13:16
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Can you bet on the outcome of a Wrestling Match? A quick trawl through some bookmakers' sites suggest not.

Most of them imply you can bet on almost anything as long as there's more than one possible conclusion.

So Wrestling may be 'real' insofar as it takes a lot of training, stamina and effort but 'fake' because the outcome is never in doubt.
You can actually bet on some of the bigger shows of the year. Wrestlemania was last week and most of the big bookies were offering online betting on who would win each of the matches.
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Old 11-04-2013, 13:16
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And the greatest example is Muhammad Ali, who coupled his extraordinary talent with a flamboyant persona based on the wrestler Gorgeous George. Probably the biggest sports star of all time and pro wrestling played a huge part in that.
MA's personality was an extraneous extra, it was his skill as a boxer that made him a true sportsman. Personally, I'd have preferred it if he never opened his mouth and just stuck to being a boxer. Same goes for all sports men and women. I want to see them perform, not talk or perform like buffoons in interviews before or afterwards. Let them do their talking on the pitch or track, or wherever.

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Old 11-04-2013, 13:18
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Can you bet on the outcome of a Wrestling Match?
Yes.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/sport...eview/1236977/
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Old 11-04-2013, 13:20
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Can you bet on the outcome of a Wrestling Match? A quick trawl through some bookmakers' sites suggest not.

Most of them imply you can bet on almost anything as long as there's more than one possible conclusion.

So Wrestling may be 'real' insofar as it takes a lot of training, stamina and effort but 'fake' because the outcome is never in doubt.
There was a big wrestling event on Sunday and you could certainly bet on it. In fact, in one of the most predictable matches they changed the finish last minute (Ryback/Henry for anyone interested) and suddenly a lot of bets went the opposite way, which suggests people found out about it.
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Old 11-04-2013, 13:20
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I know what the OP means. These are fit guys giving a lot of entertainment.

but many (all?) of these bouts are certianly staged with pre-determined outcomes.
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