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American Idol Top 6 Live Show + Results Discussion
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baroquepop
12-04-2013
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“Re: I Say a Little Prayer - Actually, the original was by Dionne Warwick.”

That's true, it was. I shouldn't have said original. However I think Aretha's version is preferable, and I believe was a bigger hit. Good to see others are paying attention .
baroquepop
12-04-2013
Kripes! Kree sings Kris Kristopherson! Help me Make it Through the Night. I've never criticised Kree before, but I don't like how she messed around with the melody here... but I still love her deeply.

Janelle sings Garth Brooks The Dance. Nice song choice. It's good to have the Idol band and arrangers back again after their holiday during Rock Week.

And finally.... Candice sings The Cure! - Love Song. Fabulous again. I must confess that I mostly listen to opera, but I love good singing in whatever form it takes and this is why I like to watch American Idol.

Very enjoyable show tonight.
lulu g
12-04-2013
Originally Posted by baroquepop:
“That's true, it was. I shouldn't have said original. However I think Aretha's version is preferable, and I believe was a bigger hit. Good to see others are paying attention .”

I don't prefer it, but it certainly is the best-known version of the song.
mimik1uk
12-04-2013
don't know who I felt most sorry for last night

lazaro for how embarrassingly bad he was and having to come back on stage and sing again after that complete train wreck of close to you , or the judges struggling to say something constructive twice about someone who clearly should not be on that stage

thought overall last night was a bit boring tbh , too many samey performances

don't get the love amber gets from the judges either tbh , thought her second song was terrible

not really a country fan so hard to get too excited about either kree or Janelle , Candice vocally should win the whole thing altho angie is most likely to do the sort of music I like
PigsMightFly
12-04-2013
My favourites are Candice and Cree - most consistent performers and amazing voices. Hope either of them wins. Didn't like Angela's first performance or Amber's 2nd performance. My overall rankings for last night:

1. Candice
2. Cree (very close 2nd)
3. Angela (based on 2nd performance)
4. Amber (based on 1st performance)
5. Janelle - has lost her va va voom
6. Lazarro - shouldn't have even made it to the finals
PigsMightFly
12-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dix:
“His real problem is unsuitable songs, when he ought to stay with an oompy swing number, which give an edge to his vocals. ”

Yes maybe.

I must admit I only started watching it when it got down to the last 20 men and last 20 women but I haven't seen a single performance of his that has impressed me. I think his singing voice is weak. I admire the fact that singing is a great way for him to express himself, because of his speech difficulties but it is a singing competition, people shouldn't be voting out of sympathy. It would be a real shame if any of the girls leave ahead of him .
attackmusic
12-04-2013
Originally Posted by supersnake:
“Not true. Idol has probably been the best singing show for CONSISTENTLY producing amazingly talented singers

Season 1
Kelly Clarkson
Tamyra Gray

Season 3
Fantasia
LaToya London
Jennifer Hudson

Season 4
Carrie Underwood
Vonzell Solomon

Season 5
Katharine McPhee
Chris Daughtry

Season 6
Jordin Sparks
Melinda Doolittle
Lakisha Jones
Blake Lewis

Season 7
David Cook
Syesha Merado
Carly Smithson

Season 8
Adam Lambert
Allison Iraheta

Season 9
Lee Dewyze
Crystal Bowersox
Siobhan Magnus

Season 10
Lauren Alaina
Haley Reinhart
Pia Toscano
Casey Abrahams
James Durbin

Season 11
Phillip Phillips
Jessica Sanchez
Joshua Ledet
Elise Testone
Skylar Laine

And I could probably think up some more! ”

If we are talking about vocals here, Phillip and Blake are exceptionally average singers. They are better than some people suggested but still very limited. Remember Phillip trying to hit the high notes in Time Of The Season Yikes. He was a good musician and likeable guy though.

I am glad this season is more about the girls. For years it seemed no one could break the White Guy With Guitar Vote. I kinda lost hope that would happen when someone with vocals like Jessica Sanchez didn't beat Phillip. Different leagues. I know it's not all about the voice but still... the amount of women I read saying they voted for him cos he was cute

Season 3 was another favourite year for me, there were so many amazing women that year.
ribtickle
12-04-2013
Once again Candice stood out, and did so twice over. She was part of one of the two stand-out audition groups last year, put together with Deandre and Jessica, and I posted then how I couldn't understand why she wasn't put through like they were. She has tonal quality, and a beautiful authentic sounding R&B top end, something to do with the shrillness of the rapid vibrato. She has the technical ability. For me, probably the best singer in this contest since Adam Lambert, with only Siobhan Magnus being another noteworthy contestant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g00BKWraQSY

Her Love Song was one of those spine-tingling moments, like for me when Adam dared to be different with Ring Of Fire, or Siobhan sang Paint It Black. The staging was slightly creepy too, which helped with the hairs-on-the-back-of-the-neck. There was Candice's "3D" red claw a minute or so in, as her hand caught the red projections, and then mid song some dispossessed voice belted out "Love you!", which sounded like Nicki. There's always a performance of the series, something different, daring and well-executed, which even if it comes a few weeks before the actual final it becomes the main series talking point, the peak, for example David Cook's Billie Jean. If talent wins out there's no doubt that Candice won the series last night.

The only contestant who comes close each week is Amber, but her tone is shallower, less rich, and less agreeable in the top end, and she seems to breeze through everything while dressed like a desperate clothes horse. She's currently too flippant to have herself a dramatic moment, which is where a girl really stands out in a series like this. Think how having straightened hair, a black dress and singing I Who Have Nothing basically led to Jordin Sparks winning her series - she did something different, all serious, and out of character for what was normally a sweetly smiling girl.

I cannot understand the widespread love for Kree. Each time I hear her sing I think "twee Kree", and in some of her earlier performances I used to fast forward on the PVR, the only one this year. She's capable enough, without being impressive technically, but the main problem for me is that her voice has no tonal quality, it is too smooth. Plain, even. Between the two country girls I much prefer Janelle, who is capable of some rock crossover and can provide a bit of drama, but she wasn't at her strongest this week. I actually think Janelle's considerably better, tighter vocally and better able to use her performing drama, as a rock crossover artist.

Felt sorry for Lazaro, he did very well with his recent Queen song, starting off and holding much the same key as Freddie Mercury and not producing the car crash TV many would have anticipated, but this week he was involved in a motorway pile-up with his own vehicles. I don't think he helped himself either by saying he liked hunting in his VT - that will turn off some of his girl fans, and then the first line of his song being "why do birds suddenly appear" only added to the image of the shooting gallery.

Angie's gone a bit off the boil for me, but she did of course redeem herself with her second song, sans piano.

It's a two-horse race AFAIC, with one a furlong ahead.
Dix
12-04-2013
Hiya OP and all, got in at a rush, and just about made it here, but have to do something first, but will keep an ear on proceedings. <g>
Dix
12-04-2013
Group song is ok, and nice ending
Dix
12-04-2013
I was a fan of Candice last night Ryan, and Jimmy has potential too.
Dix
12-04-2013
God, forming pairs...wish they wouldn't...duh!

Angie holding tight
Lazaro to the middle

Kree...near side


oooo Scotty, but have they ruined him since his win...let's see eh.....country pop I don't think so! Song doesn't grip me....
Dix
12-04-2013
Originally Posted by PigsMightFly:
“Yes maybe.

I must admit I only started watching it when it got down to the last 20 men and last 20 women but I haven't seen a single performance of his that has impressed me. I think his singing voice is weak. I admire the fact that singing is a great way for him to express himself, because of his speech difficulties but it is a singing competition, people shouldn't be voting out of sympathy. It would be a real shame if any of the girls leave ahead of him .”

I reckon he's getting the sympathy votes too, which isn't doing him any long career favours, and think he's in the comp so that it's an equal field. Obviously singing helps his disability a lot, and he has a nice voice, but those songs aren't good for him, wish him well all the same.


Ryan's back to who's where on stage,which i won't repeat. lol

Janelle.....far side, joining Angie

Candice.......joins Kree

Ryan sits beside Amber. I'd put Amber with Candice...
ooo she's with Lazaro

You tell us Ryan who goes where. lol

Kelly Clarkson sings before I find out...that gal sure gets around.

Kelly sounds better with her song than Scotty did with his....
Last edited by Dix : 12-04-2013 at 21:42
Dix
12-04-2013
Kelly loves Mariah.....tweetversation read by Ryan....very good lol Love the way Ryan left them on stage having fun.


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ellie4265
12-04-2013
Evening Dix, evening all - right result tonight.
Dix
12-04-2013
Back...

Kree & Candice....Top 2

Laz and Amber.........Bottom 2

Angie & Jenelle...safe

Can't believe Amber being in Bottom 2!

Laz is at risk

Amber...safe

Laz sings....a swing number suits him. Mind you some of his notes aren't good though, but generally he did ok

Randy being kind towards him, but he's gone.

Although I don't think Laz's voice had anything to do with him leaving as Randy and the other judges wanted an all gal final, and has got it, haven't they!
Dix
12-04-2013
Originally Posted by ellie4265:
“Evening Dix, evening all - right result tonight.”

Hiya ellie...right result you say, hmmmm from what I heard last night, the only performers worth their salt were Candice and Amber, the rest were degrees of so-so.
MissySmith
12-04-2013
Well.they only let Lazaro in due to his stutter,expecting him to leave earlier. What a waste of space.
I thought that Angie was a contender,especially when they sorted her distracting hair out. Unfortunately,she spends too much time looking for her best camera angle,and loses sight of the fact that it's about singing.
Candice has got to win after the way she sang that beautifully simple Cure song. I only remember them singing 'Love Cats'
lulu g
12-04-2013
Originally Posted by MissySmith:
“Well.they only let Lazaro in due to his stutter,expecting him to leave earlier. What a waste of space.
I thought that Angie was a contender,especially when they sorted her distracting hair out. Unfortunately,she spends too much time looking for her best camera angle,and loses sight of the fact that it's about singing.
Candice has got to win after the way she sang that beautifully simple Cure song. I only remember them singing 'Love Cats'”

BIB - Yes, I think Candice just won the competition with that song. She was outstanding last night.
MissySmith
12-04-2013
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“BIB - Yes, I think Candice just won the competition with that song. She was outstanding last night.”

How did she even find that song? What I especially loved is her completely restrained ending of it. No diva shrieking. Beautiful.
baroquepop
12-04-2013
Greetings from ad-free PVR man.

So.... they didn't use the save. Imagine the shock if they had!!!

The girls did it. It's unthinkable that one gender would completely see off the other, but this year it was on the cards from the beginning and it's hard to argue with. The only thing that concerns me is that the final chaps were so weak that it makes me wonder if they arranged that way. (Reason for my unfounded conspiracy theory: American Idol female winners are far more marketable.)

As to the returning Idol Alumni, Scotty was Scotty. I thought the song was decent and he had an effortless and natural style... which brings me to Kelly Clarkson. What a mess that was tonight, the whole thing.
Flower Pot
12-04-2013
*resisting the urge to look at any posts above*

scotty mcdreary barely any better than lazaro! o.O god i hate country!
21stCenturyBoy
12-04-2013
Candice did the Adele arrangement of the song, but I don't care- I'm just thrilled The Cure was performed on a mainstream talent show!
Flower Pot
13-04-2013
no surprises with who was in each group & THANK BLEEP FOR THAT!
dog_eat_dog
13-04-2013
Top two were bang on. Candice blew away the competition last night and must be on course to win the competition now. She has the rewind and rewatch factor more than anyone else this year. Amazing
Kree continues to wow with her beautifully natural tone and earthy song choices. She's effortlessly beautiful to listen to each and every week and never puts a foot wrong vocally.

Angie was much stronger than Amber last night and I thought she got an overly harsh critique after her first song, whereas the judges went overboard for Amber, when it was actually one of her weakest weeks vocally. She's much better than her performances last night suggested. She looks great, though!

Janelle had a fairly weak night and continues to decline a little bit each week. She should have been bottom two with Lazaro, imo.

But Lazaro was in a whole different league to the girls last night. He looked defeated the whole time and didn't even attempt to stay in tune on the first song. I think he knew he paled in comparison to the ladies and just seemed to be biding his time until the voters started voting with their heads instead of their hearts. His departure was long overdue.
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