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Suspected set ups
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Paace
18-04-2013
Originally Posted by cookie10:
“We were at the auditions and one act had people talking. Not because they were so good, but because the judges knew him. In fact, he sang at Amanda's birthday party. Everyone just clapped him, but a couple of acts later we were told that they wanted to do some filming of the audience giving a standing ovation.

The general consensus was that they would edited to make him look like he had been given a standing ovation with lots of cheering, when in fact, he never did. People were saying that the judges want him in the final, so would do what they could to push him.”



There are lies and damn lies and crooked tv shows.
intoxication
18-04-2013
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“This is why i find this forum so entertaining when BGT is on. The sheer level of absurdity people will go to claim a conspiracy is highly amusing ”

Why is it a conspiracy? The OP was not far off. BGT is KNOWN for putting through crap acts. But no normal person, after being told they are shit but they'll be put through to the live audition anyway and have everyone laugh as they get buzzed off would not go on the show. So they get bigged up at the unaired auditions in front of the production crew. Their jokes get laughed at more, the least funny ones laughed at the most. He gets put through, gets put on stage and have him get buzzed off for not being good enough. Go through the editing rigmarole - cutting out the funnier parts, adding in the obligatory "complete silence falls over the audience" shot and the eye rolls from Simon and hey presto, you've got the scene. Edit in the audition from the funnier guy after job's done.
Midnight Moggy
18-04-2013
Originally Posted by owlycherries:
“Mate, the whole show is a set up! Everything is edited to look a certain way.”

Yes, but editing is not the same as having a completely fake contestant, is it?

I don't think he actually was a fake contestant though. His annoyance seemed very genuine to me.
len112
18-04-2013
Originally Posted by flique:
“It was very odd that a really bad comedian went on just before the disabled lad it all looked a bit set up to me not sure he was a genuine contestant.

I just imagine them hiring an actor.

Producer - "Look we want you to go on BGT and do a little bit of a comedy act"

Actor- " But I'm not a comedian, not funny at all"

Producer- " Great that is just what we want, you can even have a few bits written down with you, just show surprise and look a bit annoyed when they boot you off, Oh and have a go at the audience too just to make it look authentic"

I am probably just being cynical, the whole Simons not here, ask the little girl if it makes it easier knowing he's not there then bingo Simons back just in time for her audition seemed a bit sus too.”

On America's got talent they had a comedian that was so bad the audience started booing him and he turned on the audience threatened to hunt them down like a dog etc , then he actually started to be hilarious and got through . The guy on Saturday seemed to be trying to go for the same type of act but was far too slow to turn things round on the audience , that's how I saw it anyway .

This is the guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNCKJ3xSBI
SuperAPJ
19-04-2013
Simon Cowell and Carmen Electra.
chloedancer
20-04-2013
Almost all of tonights show so far....
flique
20-04-2013
Originally Posted by Department_S:
“Except the bad stand up comedian in the white shirt WAS a set up.”

so was it a set up along the lines I made up or more as Len 112, post 29 said?
Espresso
20-04-2013
When you go to an audition show that they're filming there are only eight or nine acts on; that carry on you see on the telly with hundreds and hundreds of people waiting behind the scenes is done months before, to whittle down the talent till the shows they film, with the judges present.
Also, the warm up chappie on the final filmed auditions asks you all to applause and cheer before you see anyone on stage, so they can film it and the programme makers can edit the audience reaction in, to whichever act the producers have decided they want to do well.

Telly is all smoke and mirrors. Anyone who thinks otherwise shouldn't be allowed out on their own.
But so what? BGT and Strictly and The Voice and X-Factor and all the rest are entertaining for us viewers. And showbiz has always been a cut-throat business. Always will be.
performingmonk
21-04-2013
Editing audience reactions, priming the judges and auditionees etc. are part and parcel of these shows. I thought we'd all gotten this out of our system by now!

The only thing that really grates with me is the TOWIE-style conversations between acts, where people just happen to be mic'd up backstage and just happen to say dialogue that suits the flow of the show at that time...
kyresa
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by Espresso:
“When you go to an audition show that they're filming there are only eight or nine acts on; that carry on you see on the telly with hundreds and hundreds of people waiting behind the scenes is done months before, to whittle down the talent till the shows they film, with the judges present.
Also, the warm up chappie on the final filmed auditions asks you all to applause and cheer before you see anyone on stage, so they can film it and the programme makers can edit the audience reaction in, to whichever act the producers have decided they want to do well.

Telly is all smoke and mirrors. Anyone who thinks otherwise shouldn't be allowed out on their own.
But so what? BGT and Strictly and The Voice and X-Factor and all the rest are entertaining for us viewers. And showbiz has always been a cut-throat business. Always will be.”


The only thing you didn't put in was that 99% of the audience shots used during an acts performance probably never even happened during that performance! Cameras are trained on the audience at all times and the shot you see of someone grimacing when an act performs could actually be taken from a bad joke the warm up guy told!!
bean_of_sb
21-04-2013
the whole show is a glorious set up. The show contacted someone I know saying Simon was desperate to meet their group having seen them perform live.

It was a very specific act which they didn't think BGT would get, but they were hounded by producers telling them that Simon was looking for an OTT very camp performance. They bypassed all of the prelim auditions and went straight to the TV panel.

They got a mixed reaction from the panel but the crowd loved it. When it was aired on TV, they cut out any audience cheering so that it looked like they bombed, and they edited in judges comments from other performances saying it was the worst thing they've ever seen.

Very insightful but so common in all of these reality shows. Got to make it look dramatic somehow!
twingle
21-04-2013
I've known for years that these types of shows are manipulated by the editors as to how they want the contestant to be perceived. Even more so since my son started working in television. Anyone who can't see it should watch Alice Fredneham audition on the voice and then on BGT. It was like a totally different person
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