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Old 18-04-2013, 00:30
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So far this series the episodes have a bad early 80s feel to then.

Short attention span stories with a not very scary monster

All wrapped in 20minutes with a very tea time kiddies feel

Compare these to the john sim master episodes of recent years and some of the donna episodes
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Old 18-04-2013, 00:33
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Actually I'd say the quality is far improved upon the episodes you mentioned.
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Old 18-04-2013, 00:34
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Well no one has danced to Voodoo Child or the Scissor Sisters yet. No CGI Tennant/ Golum hybrid either.
So far so good.
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Old 18-04-2013, 00:40
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No OAP Doctor living in a tent drinking water from a dog bowl, Master/ Tennant gurning, floaty Jesus-Doctor... kiddie tea time feel?

In one story, The Doctor is saved by people chanting his name. In another, an Ice Warrior is rescued by his own people whom he believed dead, and so decided to spare the Earth.

Remind me, which one is more childish again?
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Old 18-04-2013, 00:42
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Oh for God's sake. Another negative thread? And yet again stating opinion as fact?

*sigh*

And for the record, Seasons 18-21 (1980-1984) is my personal favourite era of Classic Who, so comparing Series 7 to them is glowing praise IMO. (Dodges brick)
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Old 18-04-2013, 00:43
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I've not been liking the show for a while either but the John Simm episodes were abysmal, not least because of his scenery chewing.
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Old 18-04-2013, 00:47
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Oh for God's sake. Another negative thread? And yet again stating opinion as fact?
Yes, but this one's complaining that the stories are too simple. It's therefore entirely different from the past two years' worth of threads complaining that the stories have become too complicated.
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:17
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Well I know at least one person who thinks the exact opposite:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/do...th-zygons.html

Which just goes to show that you really can't please any of the people any of the time
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:20
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Early 80's Who? Like Kinda, Enlightenment and The Caves of Androzani?
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:24
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The show has DEFINATELY dipped in quality. The scripts are not up to what they were during Tennant's time on the show. There's no real action, and as someone else has said, the monsters aren't that unnerving or scary.

By the way...And this is sort of 'Who' related. I was watching an episode of Robin of Sherwood on DVD two hours ago, and it was the Series 3 episode 'The Pretender'. It featured William Russell (Ian Chesterton from 60s 'Who'), as the Duke of Gloucester. He was credited as Russell Enoch, and not William Russell.

I googled Russell Enoch and found out that his full name is William Russell Enoch.
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:26
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The Ice Warrior was definitely unnerving, I don't know what you mean
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:27
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All wrapped in 20minutes with a very tea time kiddies feel
Kiddies Feel? With the amount of analysis i see on here after each episode about hidden meanings in episodes etc the kids don't stand a chance
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:30
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So far this series the episodes have a bad early 80s feel to then.

Short attention span stories with a not very scary monster

All wrapped in 20minutes with a very tea time kiddies feel

Compare these to the john sim master episodes of recent years and some of the donna episodes
The Master episodes were good, shame that it was probably the only original series finale in RTD's time (bar The End of Time and The Parting of Ways), every other episode seemed to be "Oh no! Daleks/Cybermen invading London!"
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:30
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plus as 20 minutes is about half the episode length, it sounds like the episodes are well structured in your view, if you feel that it takes half the episode to resolve the problem
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:31
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Wrapped up in 20 minutes is about right. I was yawning about 20 minutes into the last one, because it wasn't as good as some stories I've seen in the past.

The episode for me could've been better. All this hype about the Ice Warriors returning, and then we get a less than perfect 45 minutes.

I was hoping for loads of Ice Warriors. Instead of which, we only get one, and he takes his head off too!

I'm not as excited about the rest of the series. I just hope that the show gets better. I mean, it is the anniversary year. Surely, you can expect great episodes to be broadcast. <Tut! Tut!>
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:32
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The show has DEFINATELY dipped in quality. The scripts are not up to what they were during Tennant's time on the show. There's no real action, and as someone else has said, the monsters aren't that unnerving or scary.

By the way...And this is sort of 'Who' related. I was watching an episode of Robin of Sherwood on DVD two hours ago, and it was the Series 3 episode 'The Pretender'. It featured William Russell (Ian Chesterton from 60s 'Who'), as the Duke of Gloucester. He was credited as Russell Enoch, and not William Russell.

I googled Russell Enoch and found out that his full name is William Russell Enoch.
Definitely, hey... Is that a fact?





Actually, no. It's not a fact. Just your opinion. There's nothing 'definite' about any perceived dip in quality. Typing it ALL IN CAPS doesn't make it anymore a fact, either.
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:38
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Well I know at least one person who thinks the exact opposite:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/do...th-zygons.html

Which just goes to show that you really can't please any of the people any of the time
Waris Hussein made similar comments just a number of days ago. Go figure.
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:40
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The Master episodes were good, shame that it was probably the only original series finale in RTD's time (bar The End of Time and The Parting of Ways), every other episode seemed to be "Oh no! Daleks/Cybermen invading London!"
Yes, a lot of the stories from 2005 onwards have been set in London. As I heard someone say a few years ago, Why doesn't the Doctor go overseas or to a few other places in the UK?

It seems to be London this and London that, more than it doesn't. I don't know if anyone thinks the same, but to tell you the truth, I AM getting quite bored when it comes to London in 'Who'.
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:44
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Yes, a lot of the stories from 2005 onwards have been set in London. As I heard someone say a few years ago, Why doesn't the Doctor go overseas or to a few other places in the UK?

It seems to be London this and London that, more than it doesn't. I don't know if anyone thinks the same, but to tell you the truth, I AM getting quite bored when it comes to London in 'Who'.
It's one of the things that I prefer about Moffat Who, we've only had The Power of Three and The Bells Of St. John that have really been about London
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Old 18-04-2013, 01:48
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Definitely, hey... Is that a fact?

Actually, no. It's not a fact. Just your opinion. There's nothing 'definite' about any perceived dip in quality. Typing it ALL IN CAPS doesn't make it anymore a fact, either.
This^^^

Yet another thinly veiled "I want everyone to agree with me and prefer Davies to Moffat so I'll try and convince them it's the majority view" thread.
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Old 18-04-2013, 02:09
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Yes, a lot of the stories from 2005 onwards have been set in London. As I heard someone say a few years ago, Why doesn't the Doctor go overseas or to a few other places in the UK?

It seems to be London this and London that, more than it doesn't. I don't know if anyone thinks the same, but to tell you the truth, I AM getting quite bored when it comes to London in 'Who'.
I quite agree, though it's not as much of an issue now as it was during the RTD era, when it felt like every other episode was set in London. It's been less predominant since Moffat took the reigns.

On a similar note I feel it's time for an overseas companion after Clara goes. All of the main companions so far in Nu-Who have been from the UK, and most of them from London. How about somebody from a part of the world that hasn't been explored yet, or hasn't been explored much?

It seems odd that with all of time and space at his feet The Doctor almost invariably ends up travelling with people from 20th/21st century Britain.
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Old 18-04-2013, 02:52
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Bring back burping wheelie bins and farting slickeen is what I say! And the Nimon. And Bonnie Langford.

Oh and Doctor Who is a kids show. The fact that thousands of thirty somethings are obsessed with it, myself included, doesn't actually change that.
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Old 18-04-2013, 08:06
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No Peter Kay in a fat suit made of puked up pizza. No farting aliens. No obnoxious Eastenders families bickering with with each other. No 900+ year old Time Lord going gooey eyed over a clingy, selfish shop assistant. No indication of any current companion getting their own Doctor clone to make babies with and write an autobiographical Mills & Boon novel. Hmm....I'll vote the show is doing pretty okay at the moment.
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Old 18-04-2013, 08:16
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Well no one has danced to Voodoo Child or the Scissor Sisters yet. No CGI Tennant/ Golum hybrid either.
So far so good.
Couldn't agree more
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Old 18-04-2013, 08:21
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Ah so predictable.

Another thinly veiled attempt at keeping the RTD versus Moffat or Tennant versus Smith discussion going, and everyone, as always, latches on to it.
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