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Old 18-04-2013, 15:30
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US mobile network Verizon sold 4 million iPhones in the first quarter of 2013. However only half of them were the iPhone 5. Dissapointing sales given how long its been out..

http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/18/v...sales-q1-2013/
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Old 18-04-2013, 15:46
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The funny thing is Apple still makes a ton of money which is fine. The iPhone series I think has lost it's shine after the iPhone 4. The 4S was sold as "It has Siri, look what you can do" but I've seen next to no one actually using it.

The iPhone 5 is just that 'slightly taller' iPhone. There's only so many times you can sell the same old "it's thinner, faster" malarky to the public before they get tired of it.

I think the Perception out in the real world is that Apple is on the down (even if their profits go up). There's nothing that makes them stand out now. Perception is something people on Apple forums won't acknowledge and will convince themselves nothing is wrong.

I honestly don't know what Apple can do now to go back to make people think "wow that's an amazing device". I got a feeling the next iPhone will be pushed the same lines are before, just depends how much longer people are willing to put up with that.

Their stock price is apparently coming down too, the perception that Apple hasn't got anything new is starting to hurt them. For the moment their number 1 but people always say getting to the top is easy, staying there is the hard bit.

Interesting times ahead though
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Old 18-04-2013, 15:55
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US mobile network Verizon sold 4 million iPhones in the first quarter of 2013. However only half of them were the iPhone 5. Dissapointing sales given how long its been out..

http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/18/v...sales-q1-2013/
Depends on how you look at it, I suppose. The alternative viewpoint is that 4S sales remain very strong despite the phone being well over a year old now.

Verizon sold 7.2 million phones over that quarter. So 27.7% of their sales were the iPhone 5. Another 27.7% were the 4S. Overall, iPhones were 55% of their sales for the quarter.
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Old 18-04-2013, 15:59
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Still pretty impressive that over half the phones they activated in Q1 were iPhone, considering the range of Android and Windows Phones on the market.
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Old 18-04-2013, 16:19
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Depends on how you look at it, I suppose. The alternative viewpoint is that 4S sales remain very strong despite the phone being well over a year old now.

Verizon sold 7.2 million phones over that quarter. So 27.7% of their sales were the iPhone 5. Another 27.7% were the 4S. Overall, iPhones were 55% of their sales for the quarter.
True. Basically Apple's competitors are themselves.

People are buying the Iphone 4S as cheaper alternative. Instead of seeing the Iphone 5 as an upgrade, they see it it's as the top of the range. I see nothing particularly wrong about that.
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Old 18-04-2013, 16:28
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Depends on how you look at it, I suppose. The alternative viewpoint is that 4S sales remain very strong despite the phone being well over a year old now.

Verizon sold 7.2 million phones over that quarter. So 27.7% of their sales were the iPhone 5. Another 27.7% were the 4S. Overall, iPhones were 55% of their sales for the quarter.
I think Apple will be worried that the takeup of the iphone5 isnt as strong as they would have hoped. People are turning away from the latest model to buy a cheaper and older model. That doesnt bode well for the next iphone release.

Another worrying thing for apple is the fall in their share price. Now below 400 per share. It was above 700 just 8 odd months ago. Unless they come out with a great iphone or some other device that everyone buys, by the end of the year they could be trading at $200 per share. There is a hell of a lot of pressure on the companies next iphone release. Another run of the mill offering, and even more people will be leaving, or wont bother upgrading.

I hope Apple can pull it out of the bag, as we need them around. The more competition there is, the better it is for consumers.
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Old 18-04-2013, 16:49
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I think Apple will be worried that the takeup of the iphone5 isnt as strong as they would have hoped. People are turning away from the latest model to buy a cheaper and older model. That doesnt bode well for the next iphone release.

Another worrying thing for apple is the fall in their share price. Now below 400 per share. It was above 700 just 8 odd months ago. Unless they come out with a great iphone or some other device that everyone buys, by the end of the year they could be trading at $200 per share. There is a hell of a lot of pressure on the companies next iphone release. Another run of the mill offering, and even more people will be leaving, or wont bother upgrading.

I hope Apple can pull it out of the bag, as we need them around. The more competition there is, the better it is for consumers.
The drop in share price is alarming. Tim Cook might do well to keep an eye out for a new job
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Old 18-04-2013, 17:14
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.."It has Siri, look what you can do" but I've seen next to no one actually using it...
Siri is powered by Yahoo and thus Bing. (Yahoo uses Bing for search)
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Old 18-04-2013, 17:39
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The drop in share price is alarming. Tim Cook might do well to keep an eye out for a new job
I dont think he would have to much trouble walking into another job. Once people get to that level, no matter how much they screw up, they seem to have a queue of companies offering them jobs.

I dont really blame TIm for Apples demise in share price. To be honest whoever took over from Jobs was going to struggle. The only person who could have made a decent go at it would be Eric Schmidt, Googles executive chairman.
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Old 18-04-2013, 18:14
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Unless they up their game for the next launch, I do feel the iPhone 5 will mark the time that Apple's amazing run started its decline. To be fair i think Cook was always on a hiding to nothing since Job's early demise but having said that I don't think he's helped himself very much either.
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Old 18-04-2013, 18:42
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Pretty impressive for the whole iPhone family sales wise. Apple has said before they would rather one of their own products cannibalised sales than another brand stepping up to take it. Many a company have been scared to do that.. but it makes sense. Wish people would stop concentrating on the stock price.. it was over inflated and needed a 'new' product every launch to sustain it. Never going to happen. Apple do big things every 2-4 years not short term.
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Old 18-04-2013, 18:50
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Complacency is a dangerous thing. Years ago Nokia were king of the mobile phone industry,and their fall from grace started when they basically ignored the emergence of the smartphone. If Apple ignore change,I fear for them,and I am an Apple fan.
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Old 18-04-2013, 22:12
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Pretty impressive for the whole iPhone family sales wise. Apple has said before they would rather one of their own products cannibalised sales than another brand stepping up to take it. Many a company have been scared to do that.. but it makes sense. Wish people would stop concentrating on the stock price.. it was over inflated and needed a 'new' product every launch to sustain it. Never going to happen. Apple do big things every 2-4 years not short term.
Only nothing big has happened in those 2 - 4 years!
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Old 18-04-2013, 22:16
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US mobile network Verizon sold 4 million iPhones in the first quarter of 2013. However only half of them were the iPhone 5. Dissapointing sales given how long its been out..

http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/18/v...sales-q1-2013/
Perhaps people are beginning to realize there are cheaper alternatives which are just as good. or even better....especially if you own a Samsung....
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Old 18-04-2013, 22:20
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US mobile network Verizon sold 4 million iPhones in the first quarter of 2013. However only half of them were the iPhone 5. Dissapointing sales given how long its been out..

http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/18/v...sales-q1-2013/
Partly expected I guess, considering the way Apple do things and keep making and selling the older model as the budget version.
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Old 18-04-2013, 22:37
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Proof that the iPhone 5 was a damp squib. It was not a big innovation really and the present discounting suggests Apple did not do enough to maintain the premium pricing level the device was pitched at.
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Old 18-04-2013, 23:03
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Proof that the iPhone 5 was a damp squib. It was not a big innovation really and the present discounting suggests Apple did not do enough to maintain the premium pricing level the device was pitched at.
You're talking about this mythical discounting again!
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Old 19-04-2013, 00:52
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It is pretty clear than many people wishing to own an iphone have seen little reason to get a 5 over a 4s so while sales overall not massively effected apple will be disappointed in the performance of the 5 no company wants is flagship under preforming.
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Old 19-04-2013, 09:02
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It is pretty clear than many people wishing to own an iphone have seen little reason to get a 5 over a 4s so while sales overall not massively effected apple will be disappointed in the performance of the 5 no company wants is flagship under preforming.
This I agee with. Apple will not be happy with low sales for the iphone 5 (we will need to wait to see what level of sales it has actually achieved).
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Old 19-04-2013, 09:06
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This I agee with. Apple will not be happy with low sales for the iphone 5 (we will need to wait to see what level of sales it has actually achieved).
In fairness they shot themselves in the foot with the mess up of LTE in europe with the 5.
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Old 19-04-2013, 09:38
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In fairness they shot themselves in the foot with the mess up of LTE in europe with the 5.
For the UK networks ie Vodafone and O2 this may impact iPhone 5 sales more in 2nd quarter of 2013. But there are rumours of Apple releasing the 5S sooner rather than later possibly in the summer. Apple are probably worried about sales.

I think consumers may look at the iPhone 5 as "a taller iPhone". Personally I find it hard to tell a iPhone 4 and 5 apart unless you have them side by side.
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Old 19-04-2013, 09:51
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For the UK networks ie Vodafone and O2 this may impact iPhone 5 sales more in 2nd quarter of 2013. But there are rumours of Apple releasing the 5S sooner rather than later possibly in the summer. Apple are probably worried about sales.

I think consumers may look at the iPhone 5 as "a taller iPhone". Personally I find it hard to tell a iPhone 4 and 5 apart unless you have them side by side.
Which could be said for many phones
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Old 19-04-2013, 13:21
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Which could be said for many phones
Apple are selling a premium brand phone. They need to be diffrent...

Hold on they got lazy and sat on their lawerls assuming people wouldnt notice and keep on buying the same product over and over again. It worked to a point but times change and Apple didnt. Doing the bare minimum every year in recent times has caught up with them.
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Old 19-04-2013, 14:01
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Apple are selling a premium brand phone. They need to be diffrent...

Hold on they got lazy and sat on their lawerls assuming people wouldnt notice and keep on buying the same product over and over again. It worked to a point but times change and Apple didnt. Doing the bare minimum every year in recent times has caught up with them.
I understand your point, but on just a couple of points. Apples premium phones have a 'look' to them, just like Samsungs premium phones do, HTC, Sony, etc.

When people look at a phone they want to recognise it. Many brands in many markets do exactly the same thing.

The second point I would make it although apple might suffer lower than expected phone sales, the expectations are high and that shouldn't be confused with phone sales being low. If (for example) they sell 40M Iphone 5's, that might be considered low for apple, but would be more than any other premium phone (which are generally cheaper) would have achieved.
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Old 20-04-2013, 09:49
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This is true and while other manufacturers would sell their souls for iPhone sales the same rules can't be applied to Apple. Once a standard has been set failure to meet that standard is seen as a disappointment that's just business.

The question then becomes was the iPhone 5 a blip or indication of a wider tend. I think the latter but we will see with the next iPhone release.
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