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Old 20-04-2013, 18:23
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A man took his own life after worrying about how he would survive after his benefits were stopped, a coroner has said.

Nicholas Barker, a former farm labourer from Yorkshire, was already paralysed down the left side of his body after a brain haemorrhage more than a decade before.

He was found dead in his garden with a shotgun at his feet on December 10 last year, the

The 51-year-old had been due to attend an appeal hearing a week later against a decision to stop his benefits, his ex-wife told the inquest.

I bet that this bothers this government not one bit.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:26
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Please post your evidence that this suicide was due to his reassessment. Not the huffington post article that is shamefully misleading by using an out of context snipped quote from the coroner.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:29
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A man took his own life after worrying about how he would survive after his benefits were stopped, a coroner has said.

Nicholas Barker, a former farm labourer from Yorkshire, was already paralysed down the left side of his body after a brain haemorrhage more than a decade before.

He was found dead in his garden with a shotgun at his feet on December 10 last year, the

The 51-year-old had been due to attend an appeal hearing a week later against a decision to stop his benefits, his ex-wife told the inquest.
here the link to the article

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...?utm_hp_ref=uk


very sad news, the appeals process is very stressful and if you have no support it can be overwelming

I bet that this bothers this government not one bit.
of course it doesn't, one less disabled person in the UK, less money to pay out, doubt they are going to lose any sleep over it
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:31
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Please post your evidence that this suicide was due to his reassessment. Not the huffington post article that is shamefully misleading by using an out of context snipped quote from the coroner.
Do you work for ATOS?
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:31
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Er.. I said not the shameless article from biased huffington post. Do you have anything else?
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:32
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Do you work for ATOS?
No...
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:33
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Please post your evidence that this suicide was due to his reassessment. Not the huffington post article that is shamefully misleading by using an out of context snipped quote from the coroner.
His doctor sent a note to the coroner, to say what they had spoken about and what was on his mind, and was worrying him.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:34
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Er.. I said not the shameless article from biased huffington post. Do you have anything else?
if you have a problem with the huffington post article why not complain to them or someone else
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:34
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His doctor sent a note to the coroner, to say what they had spoken about and what was on his mind, and was worrying him.
Really? Link? I'm sure that would be confidential.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:35
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Er.. I said not the shameless article from biased huffington post. Do you have anything else?
Strange that you find the article shameless, but don't seem to feel anything about a man taking his life,

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Old 20-04-2013, 18:37
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Sad news.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:37
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Benefits withdrawal led to man’s suicide

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/ryed...uicide/?ref=mr
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:41
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Strange that you find the article shameless, but don't seem to feel anything about a man taking his life,
I thought the left were opposed to playing politics over one incident.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:43
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I thought the left were opposed to playing politics over one incident.
And this one In December Ian Lavery, MP for Wansbeck, called on the Prime Minister do more for disabled people after receiving a suicide note in the post from a man who had taken his own life after finding out he was no longer entitled to employment and support allowance and disability benefits.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:44
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I thought the left were opposed to playing politics over one incident.
Have some humility please.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:45
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Really? Link? I'm sure that would be confidential.
No it would not be confidential, and a coroners court is open to the public
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:46
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A FORMER farm labourer shot himself after learning that his benefits were being stopped, an inquest heard.

Nicholas Peter Barker, of Bridge Farm Close, Helmsley, was found dead in his front garden with a shotgun at his feet by his neighbour on December 10 last year.

In a statement, Keith Howes said he had known Mr Barker for 11 years and described him as a “nice chap who got on with everyone”.

“I saw him that morning as he was putting out his bin and he seemed to be happy and his normal self, not depressed or sad,” Mr Howes told the inquest at Scarborough Magistrates’ Court.

“That evening I was in my front room watching the television, when at about 6pm I heard a long bang. It was so loud I nearly shot out of my skin, but it was very dark outside and I couldn’t see anything.”

Mr Howes said he went outside and saw Mr Barker slumped in a chair.

“I also saw that there was a gun on the floor. I ran inside and phoned 999,” he said.

A post mortem examination revealed that Mr Barker, who was 51, had died from a massive head injury due to a gunshot wound.

The report added that no drugs or alcohol had been detected.

Mr Barker’s former wife, Linda Barker, who gave evidence at the inquest, said they had been married for 12 years and separated in 1995, although they still saw each other on a regular basis.

“During the first half of our marriage he suffered a brain haemorrhage and although he was ok and could still do things, one side was quite paralysed and he was not able to work,” Mrs Barker told the inquest. “I know he had been on some sort of benefit for a number of years.”

Mrs Barker said she had last seen Mr Barker on December 8 when he had called to see her at work.

“He was going for a drink and seemed happy but he wanted me to help him go through his benefit papers because he was worried that he was going to be sent back to work,” she added.

“I told him not to worry as he wasn’t able to work and I said I would come and see him.”

Mrs Barker said he was due to attend an appeal hearing on December 18 against a decision to stop his benefits.

“He was always a happy man and never spoke about private matters in public, so I knew this was worrying him as he had talked about it in front of other people,” she said.

A statement from Mr Barker’s doctor said they had spoken on the phone on December 4 and he had been upset because his benefits were being stopped after an annual assessment as he did not have the required number of points to qualify.

Coroner Michael Oakley said that Mr Barker’s death had been a deliberate act and that he had killed himself.

“The main factor worrying him was that his benefits had been stopped and had he attended the appeal he may have been successful, but it did not get that far,” he said. “It is evident that the matter was concerning him greatly.”
http://www.gazetteherald.co.uk/news/...de/?ref=twtrec

Given the huge amount of incorrect assessment decisions (380+ are being overturned on appeal each and every working day) it is sadly not surprising that this not fit for purpose process is tipping some people over the edge. Only the most clueless and most callous could support such a system which, as the evidence shows, is getting worse.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:46
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Sickening isn't it?

From the Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...?utm_hp_ref=uk
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:49
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Have some humility please.
I'm not the one trying to score political points out of someone's suicide.
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":I bet that this bothers this government not one bit."

TardisSteve
"of course it doesn't, one less disabled person in the UK, less money to pay out, doubt they are going to lose any sleep over it"
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:51
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http://www.gazetteherald.co.uk/news/...de/?ref=twtrec

Given the huge amount of incorrect assessment decisions (380+ are being overturned on appeal each and every working day) it is sadly not surprising that this not fit for purpose process is tipping some people over the edge. Only the most clueless and most callous could support such a system which, as the evidence shows, is getting worse.
I am amazed that this government cannot see that this is costing a fortune: all that money spent on appeals that are not needed, and a time when the country is struggling.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:53
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I'm not the one trying to score political points out of someone's suicide.
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":I bet that this bothers this government not one bit."

TardisSteve
"of course it doesn't, one less disabled person in the UK, less money to pay out, doubt they are going to lose any sleep over it"
Could you point out where I am trying to score politcal points?
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:53
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I'm not the one trying to score political points out of someone's suicide.
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":I bet that this bothers this government not one bit."

TardisSteve
"of course it doesn't, one less disabled person in the UK, less money to pay out, doubt they are going to lose any sleep over it"
no political point scoring intended, just an accurate observation of this government, i apologise if i offended anyone
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:56
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I'm not the one trying to score political points out of someone's suicide.
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":I bet that this bothers this government not one bit."

TardisSteve
"of course it doesn't, one less disabled person in the UK, less money to pay out, doubt they are going to lose any sleep over it"
The government have had 3 years to sort the ATOS mess out, after having thousands of cases put in front of them that the system does not work and is flawed badly, but are to pig headed to say so or do anything about it, they have proved that people don't count only trying to save money, which that has failed, and has cost lives.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:56
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Could you point out where I am trying to score politcal points?
I quoted it for you.
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Old 20-04-2013, 18:57
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no political point scoring intended, just an accurate observation of this government, i apologise if i offended anyone
I am not apologising for anything
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