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Old 19-04-2013, 00:08
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Just collared my desktop loading and installing Google drive, along with usual Flashplayer bloatware update.

Is it (google drive) of any use before I delete it?
It didn't ask permission to download and I use Firefox.
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Old 19-04-2013, 00:26
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Try googling it and seeing what it is.
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Old 19-04-2013, 00:44
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It's just one of the many cloud storage services out there - it's as good as you need it to be really. Depends on how much space you want and how you want to use it.
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Old 19-04-2013, 00:53
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Google Drive is a bit of free Online or Cloud Storage ~5 GB you get with a Gmail Account.

You are not forced to install the Syncing Desktop Application, it's optional. Most people will find it useful.

You assess that yourself.

If you configure any Web Browser to download and install any software without permission then that is your configuration, a dangerous one, see to it.
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Old 19-04-2013, 01:06
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Just collared my desktop loading and installing Google drive, along with usual Flashplayer bloatware update.

Is it (google drive) of any use before I delete it?
It didn't ask permission to download and I use Firefox.
I use 3 android devices therefore I use Google a lot - therefore I have Google drive on my PC as well - I store lots of stuff there as it's easier find things rather than have to remember on which machine you put it.
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Old 19-04-2013, 01:15
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Google Drive is a bit of free Online or Cloud Storage ~5 GB you get with a Gmail Account.

You are not forced to install the Syncing Desktop Application, it's optional. Most people will find it useful.

You assess that yourself.

If you configure any Web Browser to download and install any software without permission then that is your configuration, a dangerous one, see to it.
It was downloading and installing the same time as a Flashplayer update.
I'm deleteing because I have network storage.
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Old 19-04-2013, 06:34
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It was downloading and installing the same time as a Flashplayer update.
I'm deleteing because I have network storage.
Then you must have said yes to it. i have never had anything installed with flashplayer i did not want.

Sometimes cloud storage is useful, I use dropbox to store some documents, it allows me to access them where ether I am.
i know you can do that with network storage, but sometimes it don't work.
Of cause I password all my documents.

Never used Google drive, got no need to.
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Old 19-04-2013, 08:03
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I've got skydrive/google/dropbox and they are all useful; you don't have to use it if its on your system and its handy to back up the back ups.
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Old 19-04-2013, 10:27
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It was downloading and installing the same time as a Flashplayer update.
I'm deleteing because I have network storage.
I believe if you install Flash for the first time it may come with Google Chrome bundled and that may have been extended to include Google Drive client. Chrome is certainly bundled with some downloads and preselected. You have to be careful to unselect if you don't want it.
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Old 19-04-2013, 15:55
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Deleted for now, can see some use for it. Might put it in a structure for backups.

Very fussy with Java because of the Ask toolbar, and anything which might bring Babylon.

Just got caught out by this one.

Thanks for the help!
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Old 19-04-2013, 19:45
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I believe if you install Flash for the first time it may come with Google Chrome bundled and that may have been extended to include Google Drive client. Chrome is certainly bundled with some downloads and preselected. You have to be careful to unselect if you don't want it.
It is about time that was stopped and these items was unselected as default, also people should bloody look at what they are doing
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Old 19-04-2013, 23:49
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It is about time that was stopped and these items was unselected as default, also people should bloody look at what they are doing
When you start paying for software then you can start demanding but until then either look at what you install, don't bother using/un-install/disable, I don't see what the issue is to be honest.
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Old 20-04-2013, 00:02
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When you start paying for software then you can start demanding but until then either look at what you install, don't bother using/un-install/disable, I don't see what the issue is to be honest.
There won't be an issue once HTML5 finally does away with Flash. The sooner the better.
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Old 20-04-2013, 07:46
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When you start paying for software then you can start demanding but until then either look at what you install, don't bother using/un-install/disable, I don't see what the issue is to be honest.
I do pay for a lot of my software. i agree people should look at what they are installing, but they don't and that is where the problems starts. The amount of times in the past I have had to get rid of toolbars and other stuff on other peoples machines that they have installed and not realised. Even if not unselected by default sometimes it could be made clearer.
Not sure what you mean about uninstalling or disabling, but if you install something you did not want to install then you got every right to uninstall it.

As for flash, It have been a while since I installed flash from scratch, so I have not sure what extras it got. I think I remember chrome, but not google Drive, but then Google drive may not have been available then.

As I said the only cloud storage I use is drop box, so I got their client on my computer. i think I got 25Gb with MS, but i have never used it.
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Old 20-04-2013, 11:04
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Ask yourself... can you really trust Google with all of your files and personal information that you may store on a Google Drive? Given Googles reputation in this area recently, I certainly couldn't.
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Old 20-04-2013, 12:36
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It is about time that was stopped and these items was unselected as default, also people should bloody look at what they are doing
I agree with both points.
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Old 20-04-2013, 12:41
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When you start paying for software then you can start demanding but until then either look at what you install, don't bother using/un-install/disable, I don't see what the issue is to be honest.
Actually, vendors should be able to package things up as they like, whether the customer is paying for it or not.

The customer should be able to criticise the vendor's policy, whether the customer is paying for it or not.

If the vendor doesn't change the customer has the right to seek out alternative vendors or become a vendor themselves.
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Old 20-04-2013, 13:06
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Actually, vendors should be able to package things up as they like, whether the customer is paying for it or not.

The customer should be able to criticise the vendor's policy, whether the customer is paying for it or not.

If the vendor doesn't change the customer has the right to seek out alternative vendors or become a vendor themselves.
They can of course criticise free software but remember, said software has to be paid for somewhere along the line.

I've paid for the likes of Adobe Master Collection, Office, Corel Draw and more and will have a knock if they are in the wrong but I really don't see why people get so fixated on the likes of Google and other free software....don't like it then don't use it and stop droning on about it; there are always alternatives.
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Old 20-04-2013, 13:19
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but I really don't see why people get so fixated on the likes of Google and other free software....don't like it then don't use it and stop droning on about it; there are always alternatives.
Yes, I agree. While I may express an opinion about a feature(s) I'm generally more relaxed about "free" software than commercial software.
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Old 22-04-2013, 09:45
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Actually, vendors should be able to package things up as they like, whether the customer is paying for it or not.

The customer should be able to criticise the vendor's policy, whether the customer is paying for it or not.

If the vendor doesn't change the customer has the right to seek out alternative vendors or become a vendor themselves.

Not always another suitable vendor. I would be pretty annoyed if after spending about 300 or more on software I have a load of crap installed I don't need.
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Old 22-04-2013, 09:56
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They can of course criticise free software but remember, said software has to be paid for somewhere along the line.

I got nothing against stuff being bundled into free software, but sometimes it is not made clear.
I've paid for the likes of Adobe Master Collection, Office, Corel Draw and more and will have a knock if they are in the wrong
Same here, premier, i admit it been while as I never took to it, photoshop.
Office, but again a while back, office 2000.
After effects, not so long ago and Vegas 10.
I also paid for some smaller software as well, like my email client and a few weeks ago, comodo.
but I really don't see why people get so fixated on the likes of Google and other free software....don't like it then don't use it and stop droning on about it; there are always alternatives.
The problem is as i said above that some things are not made clear.
Google is a different thing, they just seems to think that people want to have them all over their computers and many times you have no idea what Google sticks on, even if you never use Google. Of cause Google is not the only company that does it.


On this page alone my traking blocker comes up with these five

Google Analytics Blocked here
Rubicon Project Blocked here
Revenue Science Blocked here
SkimLinks Blocked here
Vibrant Ads Blocked here


I never heard of the bottom 2. i even blocked flash on DS because of their annoying flash adverts coming in at the bottom of my page.

I have said many times, I got no problem with adverts, but sometimes they just get in the way and make the website a pain to use, also there is really no need for the tracking.

what the hell do Ds need them all for anyway, surly they can just use one company for the adverts?
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Old 22-04-2013, 10:43
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Not always another suitable vendor.
Tough. It's their product. It's up to [or should be] up to them how they package it. You should be free to criticise, boycott, campaign, of course.

I would be pretty annoyed if after spending about 300 or more on software I have a load of crap installed I don't need.
Like you say in your subsequent post if it's made clear what you're getting that's fine. In the Flash download it is made clear.
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Old 22-04-2013, 11:57
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Google Drive in conjuction with Google Docs is just awesome for someone who writes a lot like myself. I can just pick up my phone/tablet/laptop/work PC and carry on writing from where exactly I left off and everything is synced perfectly.

I am exclusivly using Google Drive now, and we've even started using it in the work place. It's also been very reliable, which of course is a huge bonus!

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Old 22-04-2013, 12:49
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Tough. It's their product. It's up to [or should be] up to them how they package it. You should be free to criticise, boycott, campaign, of course.
if you pay for software, certainly high end software then nothing else should be added unless they are giving you another bit of software for free and even then, it should not install unless you want it to install.

When ever I install anything I always use custom, then at least then I have a chance to look at waht is being installed and where.

It may be their product, but this is my computer, I got every right to stop stuff being installed unless it needs to be installed for the software to work.


Like you say in your subsequent post if it's made clear what you're getting that's fine. In the Flash download it is made clear.
As i have also said; I have not installed flash from scratch for a while, so i can't really remember if it was clear or not. I think it asked to install chrome and that was it.
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Old 22-04-2013, 12:52
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Google Drive in conjuction with Google Docs is just awesome for someone who writes a lot like myself. I can just pick up my phone/tablet/laptop/work PC and carry on writing from where exactly I left off and everything is synced perfectly.

I am exclusivly using Google Drive now, and we've even started using it in the work place. It's also been very reliable, which of course is a huge bonus!

Mark

I don't use Google Docs, google drive, I certainly don't sync anything from my computer to any google product or my phone apart from contacts.


I use google calender, for bill reminders more than anything else, Gmail only for contacts and that is it, I don't even use Google for searching.
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