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Cheruman
24-04-2013
Originally Posted by norbitonite:
“Just as important as the resting time (which is crucial for the meat to relax and become meltingly tender) is ensuring that the meat is at room temperature before you start to cook it. No straight from the fridge and into the pan. Room temperature meat (rump for preference) lightly oiled and seasoned onto a smoking hot cast iron grll pan for 1.5-2 mins per side. Rest on a warm plate for 5 mins while I prep the salad.

The ultimate fast food.”

Mmmm
Landdrifter24
24-04-2013
i used to be a "well done-er" until one day i bought a mega thick peice of rump, 5 minutes on each side was only just enough to bring it to medium rare, so i thought bugger it and ate it like that and loved it, i also think it depends alot on the steak itself, rump and fillet imo are best cooked rare - medium rare while i think Sirlion and especially Ribeye are more forgiving up to medum well but i still have them medium rare... like as been said though, always make sure your steak is room temperature before you cook it and ALWAYS leave your steak to rest for at least as long as you have cooked it for to let the meat fibres relax and for the juices to redistribute themselves back into the meat
cbe21ok
24-04-2013
I don't get this 'let the meat rest' thing at all. It never tastes any better rested than it does unrested, in fact i much prefer piping hot.
smudges dad
24-04-2013
Originally Posted by cbe21ok:
“I don't get this 'let the meat rest' thing at all. It never tastes any better rested than it does unrested, in fact i much prefer piping hot.”

Taste desn'tchange a lot, but the texture is a lot more tender and the steak is jucier
walterwhite
27-04-2013
Originally Posted by cbe21ok:
“I don't get this 'let the meat rest' thing at all. It never tastes any better rested than it does unrested, in fact i much prefer piping hot.”

I think 99% of chefs, if not 100% would agree that resting improves any meat.
Dave1979
27-04-2013
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“I think 99% of chefs, if not 100% would agree that resting improves any meat.”

Exactly. I rest it under foil on a warm plate and it doesn't go cold. The lesser the cooking time the greater the resting time. Its a muscle and will tighten/tense up when cooked - it needs time to relax to make it more tender.

Either rare or blue for me - basically just show it the pan. There is nothing better than steak tartare from a good restaurant.

It is good that some people like it well done. It lets the kitchen get rid of all the duff pieces or end cuts as the diner wont be able to tell the difference if its cooked that long
Welsh-lad
28-04-2013
Ah perennial steak thread!
SHAFT
28-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dave1979:
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It is good that some people like it well done. It lets the kitchen get rid of all the duff pieces or end cuts as the diner wont be able to tell the difference if its cooked that long”

Wow. Nonsense like this usually ends up on the first page of the steak threads here. I'm shocked that it took so long! What utter garbage.
Dave1979
28-04-2013
Originally Posted by SHAFT:
“Wow. Nonsense like this usually ends up on the first page of the steak threads here. I'm shocked that it took so long! What utter garbage.”

Every place I have worked in as a waiter in my younger years has always used the "keep for well-done" principal. Its just sound inventory management.
SHAFT
28-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dave1979:
“Every place I have worked in as a waiter in my younger years has always used the "keep for well-done" principal. Its just sound inventory management.”

Having two parents that work in catering (my Dad owns his own small restaurant) and being virtually brought up in the restaurant business, I call bull**** on your post.
PopRocket
28-04-2013
medium-rare for me
Flat Matt
28-04-2013
Medium rare for me, nice and pink and juicy in the middle.

I had a rump steak last night and it was absolutely spot on.
Sad_BB_Addict
28-04-2013
Why you shouldn't waste money on expensive steak: Tesco and Asda beat Waitrose and M&S in taste test
•Cheaper superstores beat their more expensive rivals in sirloin steak test
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...aste-test.html
degsyhufc
28-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dave1979:
“Exactly. I rest it under foil on a warm plate and it doesn't go cold. The lesser the cooking time the greater the resting time. Its a muscle and will tighten/tense up when cooked - it needs time to relax to make it more tender.

Either rare or blue for me - basically just show it the pan. There is nothing better than steak tartare from a good restaurant.

It is good that some people like it well done. It lets the kitchen get rid of all the duff pieces or end cuts as the diner wont be able to tell the difference if its cooked that long”

Originally Posted by SHAFT:
“Wow. Nonsense like this usually ends up on the first page of the steak threads here. I'm shocked that it took so long! What utter garbage.”

The chef Anthony Bourdain has said the same about lesses quality cuts being reserved for well done steaks.
Dave1979
28-04-2013
Originally Posted by SHAFT:
“Having two parents that work in catering (my Dad owns his own small restaurant) and being virtually brought up in the restaurant business, I call bull**** on your post.”

I don't really care that your Dad's place doesn't do it and you haven't experienced it. I worked in 3 places - a bar, a small restaurant and a fine-dining establishment over the course of 4 years at uni and they all did it and the way the chefs talked about it it was pretty much standard practice.
walterwhite
29-04-2013
Originally Posted by SHAFT:
“Having two parents that work in catering (my Dad owns his own small restaurant) and being virtually brought up in the restaurant business, I call bull**** on your post.”

That just proves your Dad doesn't do it. I'm sure plenty of other places do.
turquoiseblue
29-04-2013
I don't get it. If you have a duff piece of steak, cooking it "well done" won't change it, it'll still be duff.
Yeah_Jackie
29-04-2013
It's probably alright if you dice it and chuck it in the slow cooker for 3 weeks
JulesF
29-04-2013
Originally Posted by Sad_BB_Addict:
“Why you shouldn't waste money on expensive steak: Tesco and Asda beat Waitrose and M&S in taste test
•Cheaper superstores beat their more expensive rivals in sirloin steak test
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...aste-test.html”

Ho hum. Judged by an 'independent expert panel of judges', not named of course, who are judging supermarket steak against ... um ... slightly more expensive supermarket steak.

I will continue to buy more expensive steak from my local butcher, and give ALL supermarket steak a wide berth.
JulesF
29-04-2013
Originally Posted by SHAFT:
“Having two parents that work in catering (my Dad owns his own small restaurant) and being virtually brought up in the restaurant business, I call bull**** on your post.”

It's admirable that your dad doesn't do it, but I have heard the same from people in the industry. It does happen.
turquoiseblue
29-04-2013
Originally Posted by Yeah_Jackie:
“It's probably alright if you dice it and chuck it in the slow cooker for 3 weeks ”

I was thinking that.
SHAFT
29-04-2013
Originally Posted by turquoiseblue:
“I don't get it. If you have a duff piece of steak, cooking it "well done" won't change it, it'll still be duff.”

Exactly.
smudges dad
29-04-2013
Originally Posted by turquoiseblue:
“I don't get it. If you have a duff piece of steak, cooking it "well done" won't change it, it'll still be duff.”

The diffence is that cooking a really good bit of steak "well done" makes it duff. It will still be better than a duff peice to start with, but not really a big difference.
turquoiseblue
29-04-2013
I would have thought that cooking a piece of duff steak "well done" would render it totally inedible, rather than almost inedible.
Osusana
29-04-2013
Cold un/undercooked meat...............bleeuuucchhhhh

Why not just go straight to the abattor rip it off the hooks and eat it there and then?
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