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Series 7B Finale Synopsis (MAJOR SPOILERS)
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Pobatti
21-04-2013
A synopsis of Series 7B episode 8 has surfaced on Gallifrey Base that I thought I'd share with you. At this point there's no way to know for sure how true this is, but it certainly sounds like the sort of story Steven Moffat would write:

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“Clara isn't the impossible girl, she is entirely possible. The Doctor is lured to Tenzalore, which is where his grave is located. The Great Intelligence kidnaps and threatens his friends (the peeps from the christmas special) in order to get the doctor to open the tomb (which is the tardis) The doctor doesn't relent, but River does, she was there when the doctor revealed his true name. The doors open, everyone walks in to see a web of white light. The white light is the doctor, as a body is... Cliche. It is a web of all of the doctor's timelines, everytime he transported in time and space a new strand was created. The Great Intelligence enters into the web and begins to kill the doctor, over a million timelines, and reverting any victory the doctor made, which also kills the Great Intelligence (he has to die in every timeline at some point in time. The universe begins to disappear and the doctor begins to die. To save him, Clara jumps into the Doctor's timeline and saves him over a million times (The dalek asylum, the christmas special, all times Clara saves the doctor) but she too has to die in the process, and dies over a million times. The doctor is saved, time reverted, Clara is dead, but not entirely. The Doctor enters into his own timeline to save her. The Clara the doctor meets in present time is the genuine article, the original. Every Clara we have met have been her, but an offshoot of the original.”

There's also a bit of speculation that, as a result of this, the Doctor's past is altered to the point where the 9th Doctor is now completely different - and will be played by John Hurt in the Anniversary Special.

I really like this idea, as it does make a great deal of sense, and does explain why the Doctor keeps his name hidden (to protect the secret of the TARDIS after his death).

What do you all think?
lady doctor
21-04-2013
So where wouuld that leave his adventures with Martha, donna rose e,t,c would they all change too
Pobatti
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by lady doctor:
“So where wouuld that leave his adventures with Martha, donna rose e,t,c”

Not completely sure. It's one of those things people seem do be focusing on right now, since an image came out of John Hurt wearing Eccleston's black leather coat. The synopsis above makes changes like this possible, though how it would affect the later Doctors remains to be seen.

Presumably the Doctor, after he regenerated, still met Rose, Donna and Martha just as he always did? In this scenario, Rose's adventures would have began slightly differently but very little else would be impacted.
lady doctor
21-04-2013
It does explain alot and that things will b changed which is y rose is able to return
Sora2311
21-04-2013
I call BS because how would 9 be different but not 10
Philip_Murray
21-04-2013
Oh please, there is absolutely NO WAY that the current Who team would allow preview screeners of the finale to air this far in advance - and yet that is the only way such a detailed 'synopsis' could emerge at this early stage (when post-production may very well still be underway). This is almost certainly just a fan theory masquerading as fact, nothing more. Nice theory mind.
Pobatti
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by Sora2311:
“I call BS because how would 9 be different but not 10”

As I said earlier, that line of speculation is completely separate from the synopsis I quoted, but is becoming increasingly likely the more people think about it. The synopsis simply explains why changes like that one might be able to occur.

In reality it's more likely that with Eccleston's continued refusal to reprise his role a decision has been made to replace him with an actor who will.

But again, the Eccleston/Hurt thing is pure speculation. The synopsis seems to have simply come from nowhere, and in light of last night's episode (seeing the world from beginning to end, Clara's body being out there somewhere) just seems completely right to me.
Digital Sid
21-04-2013
Who posted this originally?
Pobatti
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“Who posted this originally?”

A poster called onetruepurple over on GB posted this up, but claims he found it posted elsewhere on the internet, so right now the original source is unknown. The ongoing discussion is in the Spoiler & Speculation Thread.
lady doctor
21-04-2013
everything would b different, that's prob what the 50th is about
lady doctor
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by Pobatti:
“As I said earlier, that line of speculation is completely separate from the synopsis I quoted, but is becoming increasingly likely the more people think about it. The synopsis simply explains why changes like that one might be able to occur.

In reality it's more likely that with Eccleston's continued refusal to reprise his role a decision has been made to replace him with an actor who will.

But again, the Eccleston/Hurt thing is pure speculation. The synopsis seems to have simply come from nowhere, and in light of last night's episode (seeing the world from beginning to end, Clara's body being out there somewhere) just seems completely right to me.”

i like the theory its nice to speculate
Digital Sid
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by Pobatti:
“A poster called onetruepurple over on GB posted this up, but claims he found it posted elsewhere on the internet, so right now the original source is unknown. The ongoing discussion is in the Spoiler & Speculation Thread.”

On a ban till the 5th so can't view it myself.
claire2281
21-04-2013
It does sound very plausible and fits with what we know and would make great sense of who/what Clara is (an ordinary girl split across time). I always have thought she was sent to the Doctor on purpose to save him - makes total sense that future River would give her his phone number so this could happen.

I can't actually find ANYTHING wrong with it off the top of my head so if it is made up someone's done it quite carefully.

The only thing not explained there is why River would reveal his name although the prophecy for Trenzalore says that it's impossible to lie there - which could be the very reason SHE is brought.

This is either spot on or an EXTREMELY good fake.
Pobatti
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“On a ban till the 5th so can't view it myself.”

It's reason such as this I tend to repost the really juicy stuff here
Dogmatix
21-04-2013
I don't like it at all. Too much saving of the universe again. Trouble is, having saved the galaxy and the universe and all of time and space so often, the writers run out of ways to make an even bigger finale. So this time, it's all the alternate time-streams as well. Can't we have a finale where if any saving has to be done, it's just one person, say, Clara?
Digital Sid
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by Pobatti:
“It's reason such as this I tend to repost the really juicy stuff here ”

Any other stuff worth mentioning popped up these last few weeks? A lot of it doesn't get reposted here. Heard about The Doctor's Trainers John Hurt claim but not much else.
Pobatti
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“Any other stuff worth mentioning popped up these last few weeks? A lot of it doesn't get reposted here. Heard about The Doctor's Trainers John Hurt claim but not much else.”

I haven't been online a whole lot recently so I'm not sure yet. I'll have a poke around for the next couple of hours, but I don't think anything else like this has popped up, the forum would be covered in threads about them otherwise

If I find anything good I will post it up here.
moonburn
21-04-2013
if this was correct does that mean the time lock keeping everything secure would also be unlocked?
meaning the Time lords would return?
Mulett
21-04-2013
Fan fiction is just appalling.
SilenceWillFall
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“Fan fiction is just appalling.”

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3975738624/h3B1404E8/
LeslieGrufford
21-04-2013
The Great Intelligence can't kill the Doctor full stop so what makes you think time travel would enable him to kill the Doctor a million times. Otherwise you are basically saying all the previous incarnations of the Doctor aren't worthy enough to defeat the GI? They should be as equal to Matt Smith's Doctor and able to thwart him at every opportunity.
Mulett
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by SilenceWillFall:
“https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3975738624/h3B1404E8/ ”

Wonderful!
Mulett
21-04-2013
Whilst I do think that whatever splits Clara in her different lives hasn't happened yet, this episode synopsis for The Name of the Doctor would alienate about 90% of viewers and Steven Moffat knows that.
16caerhos
21-04-2013
So, if this turns out to be true,
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they're going to erase Christopher Eccleston's Doctor?


Wow. I really hope this rumour is bullshit...
claire2281
21-04-2013
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“Whilst I do think that whatever splits Clara in her different lives hasn't happened yet, this episode synopsis for The Name of the Doctor would alienate about 90% of viewers and Steven Moffat knows that.”

Why do you say that? What do you think would be so alienating about it? Genuinely interested to know what you think is so controversial about it because I honestly don't see it's that outlandish imo (depends how you interpret certain elements I suppose but...)

Also, I have to admit it fits REALLY nice with Moffat's assertion of 'you'll never guess what she is!' about Clara.

If she really is just an ordinary girl then no we never would've bloody guessed that! Rule 1: Moffat is a giant troll. He'd SO do that.
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