Zendaya and Val appreciation thread

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kindamagic4Fi

08-05-2013

Originally Posted by edy10:
“But he is still not successful with that . And I dont he will ever be, sorry Im not trying to be mean but just realistic. Mark is a very good singer and guitarist . I bought his CD last year and play it almost all the time but sometimes in show- bizz talent is not enough unfortunately . We all know a lot of people who are so successful but not talented. And many people in the entertainment business who are talented but so underrated. Its what it is ”

Looks like he's definitely giving music another go from this interview - http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...ew-album-video

Also interesting wanting to spend time with Zen re music!!!!
https://twitter.com/MarkBallas/statu...00189882421248
https://twitter.com/MarkBallas/statu...01963158646784

Hoping for a collaboration after the show maybe???

kindamagic4Fi

08-05-2013

Originally Posted by edy10:
“What dances do you want to see Z and Val choose as their favourite dance to re-do on the finals ? I'm thinking AT (less likely ) or Jive (hopefully ).”

Jive or Cha Cha for me esp as AT was with Maks/Anna so would they have to add to choreography & theme of dance wouldn't work as well.

kindamagic4Fi

08-05-2013

Originally Posted by edy10:
“So Aly is dancing the rumba and Z will probably not dance the rumba . Can you see more backlash towards Z ? SMH. As if she needed another one on top of the hip-hop one.”

Sadly looks like you were right we aren't going to get to see them do rumba. Think at minute anti -Zen/Val people are too focused on unfairness of her dancing hip-hop to comment on Rumba, saving that for next week!!

edy10

08-05-2013

Originally Posted by valc_fan:
“He can probably incorporate a few dance styles/steps depending on the song. Last season I really didn't love any of the freestyle tbh.

Tony/Melissa - nice dance...just not for the final. Too slow and serious. No problem with contemporary but it didn't fit.

Derek & Shawn- they went for creepy dark circus vibe. I didn't love it tbh. I was more impressed by their mambo than I was by their freestyle.

Val & Kelly - cute routine and some creative moments i.e. violin, wire work, choir etc. jam packed, however I wasn't blown away by the dancing.

The song is key imo. The music choice for their salsa was so different and unique I LOVED IT. When I heard they had salsa I was expecting the typical salsa music/costumes...pleasantly surprised.

Oh by the way..all the complaints at pure about the salsa not having enough content or not enough in hold truly make me laugh. The hypocrisy is truly mind blowing when you consider that these are some of the same people who RAVED about shawn & derek's tribal samba with very little actual samba. Or maria & derek's non-jive because of her injury. They raved about how brilliant & creative Derek was etc. etc. So now they just sound ridiculous.

The last thing I'll say about their salsa. Some might prefer kellie's theatrical piece over zendaya's salsa ....ok that's fine. But fandom aside, I think Val did a superior job showcasing Zendaya. She was the star of that routine. Derek created a theatrical paso it was fun too, however besides Kellie being flung between Tristan and Derek...there was no "star" of that routine imo. It was great as a piece of art (music, lighting etc). The whole point of the trio was to showcase the celebrity and I truly don't think I'm being biased when I say that Val did a better job of that. (don't think kellie should have got a 7 either).

ok end rant. sorry.”

No rant awayyyyyyy

; Im usually the one who keeps ranting and ranting lol. Freestyle is my concern and I hope that Val has an idea of what he wants to do " he needs to do something that hasnt already been done and deliver.

edy10

08-05-2013

Originally Posted by kindamagic4Fi:
“Cute little piece about Zendaya with some my fav Gif's from her time with Val. http://www.wetpaint.com/dancing-with...term=Monday+20”

cute indeed, lmao at the comments SMH

. I will be dammed if the Golden Boy Derek wins another trophy !!! Cmon Val, this is your moment. Thats why Im saying that next week Im going to learn how to power vote and decide if I want to do it lol.

edy10

08-05-2013

Originally Posted by kindamagic4Fi:
“Thanks for the compliment!!! Think most the pro-dancers enjoy the perks of being a Celeb via DWTS but for me its the fact hardly anybody calls Derek out on every season saying its his last, same as Maks did but he always had lots comments/jokes made about it.
Remember in one of Marks post show interviews he said Derek was a "camera w****" & know he meant it as joke but to me it's truth!!! ”

Oh and I dont think that Maks was joking and if Im being honest Maks is a bit of a camera w***** too

lol.
I always think that the most successful in this franchise are the Chmerskovsky (hope I got it right ) brothers, Tony, Cheryl , Karina, Cheryl and Kym. Because they do a lot of things outside dwts. At the end of the day, the ultimate success for these pros is to open studios and teach and I know that Tony and the brothers have very successful studios

. I dont think Derek and Mark careers in Hollywood took off like they wanted to, probably why Derek keeps coming back

edy10

08-05-2013

Originally Posted by kindamagic4Fi:
“Jive or Cha Cha for me esp as AT was with Maks/Anna so would they have to add to choreography & theme of dance wouldn't work as well.”

They got a 29 for that chacha though so I dont think they will choose that and if they do hopefully its a different choreo and song. For the jive, everything has to stay the same

edy10

08-05-2013

Originally Posted by kindamagic4Fi:
“Sadly looks like you were right we aren't going to get to see them do rumba. Think at minute anti -Zen/Val people are too focused on unfairness of her dancing hip-hop to comment on Rumba, saving that for next week!! ”

BIB of course

,.
The thing is Z is a very and I mean very good actress on that dancefloor imo; Val and her have an incredible chemistry and as he said they are both very passionate dancers. I understand his reticence and no matter how tone it down he would have made it, it would have still made a lot of people uncomfortable (but not me, its just a dance after all ,where you have to play a character; I wish some people would lighten up ). But hey it is what it is.
And as I said previously in the other thread, as much as I like Z, I think that its kind of unfair for Aly to have it and have Z not do it so I can understand why many people would be angry and scream favoritism towards Z; but hey c'est la vie .....shrug.

kindamagic4Fi

09-05-2013

Originally Posted by edy10:
“cute indeed, lmao at the comments SMH . I will be dammed if the Golden Boy Derek wins another trophy !!! Cmon Val, this is your moment. Thats why Im saying that next week Im going to learn how to power vote and decide if I want to do it lol.”

Interesting that there's no negative comments from Zen/Val fans on same site for piece on Kellie!!

http://www.wetpaint.com/dancing-with...m=Wednesday+13

Power voting is easy on the night its the setting up of accounts that is bit of pain. If you want any help let me know.

kindamagic4Fi

09-05-2013

Originally Posted by edy10:
“Oh and I dont think that Maks was joking and if Im being honest Maks is a bit of a camera w***** too lol.
I always think that the most successful in this franchise are the Chmerskovsky (hope I got it right ) brothers, Tony, Cheryl , Karina, Cheryl and Kym. Because they do a lot of things outside dwts. At the end of the day, the ultimate success for these pros is to open studios and teach and I know that Tony and the brothers have very successful studios . I dont think Derek and Mark careers in Hollywood took off like they wanted to, probably why Derek keeps coming back .”

OMG it was Mark Ballas who made comment not Maks but as much as i love Maks i agree he definitely loves the camera but i'd say difference is he admits it & plays up to bad boy/celeb image & doesn't pretend to be all sweetness & light.

Agree Tony/Maks/Val are very successful with DanceWithMeUSA & are always adding more studios, they have used fame that came with DWTS to maximum effect to run good businesses & i believe when not on show are very involved at studio's not just figureheads. Derek/Mark possibly got carried away by fame & expected too much.

kindamagic4Fi

09-05-2013

Originally Posted by edy10:
“They got a 29 for that chacha though so I dont think they will choose that and if they do hopefully its a different choreo and song. For the jive, everything has to stay the same ”

JIve would be my preference but its a tough dance on night with so many dances & pressure that's only drawback but Zen is young & fit so maybe not such a concern.

kindamagic4Fi

09-05-2013

Originally Posted by edy10:
“BIB of course ,.
The thing is Z is a very and I mean very good actress on that dancefloor imo; Val and her have an incredible chemistry and as he said they are both very passionate dancers. I understand his reticence and no matter how tone it down he would have made it, it would have still made a lot of people uncomfortable (but not me, its just a dance after all ,where you have to play a character; I wish some people would lighten up ). But hey it is what it is.
And as I said previously in the other thread, as much as I like Z, I think that its kind of unfair for Aly to have it and have Z not do it so I can understand why many people would be angry and scream favoritism towards Z; but hey c'est la vie .....shrug.”

Totally agree it's possibly only factual gripe the Derek fans can have but then again its not Zen/Val's fault thats down to producers so really its still unfair.

valc_fan

09-05-2013

Originally Posted by kindamagic4Fi:
“Totally agree it's possibly only factual gripe the Derek fans can have but then again its not Zen/Val's fault thats down to producers so really its still unfair.”

The producers had to have seen some of their actual rumba when everyone had to prepare for the immunity challenge, right? If they decided for her not to dance the rumba maybe it was for a reason? I just feel that if it looked good/appropriate they would have made them dance it. Maybe they danced it too well??? I don't feel like we'll ever know...but I think there must be a lot of unaired rehearsal footage of them doing the rumba that we will never see.

edy10

09-05-2013

Originally Posted by kindamagic4Fi:
“Interesting that there's no negative comments from Zen/Val fans on same site for piece on Kellie!!
http://www.wetpaint.com/dancing-with...m=Wednesday+13

Power voting is easy on the night its the setting up of accounts that is bit of pain. If you want any help let me know. ”

Will do

edy10

09-05-2013

Originally Posted by kindamagic4Fi:
“OMG it was Mark Ballas who made comment not Maks but as much as i love Maks i agree he definitely loves the camera but i'd say difference is he admits it & plays up to bad boy/celeb image & doesn't pretend to be all sweetness & light.

Agree Tony/Maks/Val are very successful with DanceWithMeUSA & are always adding more studios, they have used fame that came with DWTS to maximum effect to run good businesses & i believe when not on show are very involved at studio's not just figureheads. Derek/Mark possibly got carried away by fame & expected too much.”

See thats my main problem with Derek because he acts like he is all prim and proper lol .

edy10

09-05-2013

Originally Posted by valc_fan:
“The producers had to have seen some of their actual rumba when everyone had to prepare for the immunity challenge, right? If they decided for her not to dance the rumba maybe it was for a reason? I just feel that if it looked good/appropriate they would have made them dance it. Maybe they danced it too well??? I don't feel like we'll ever know...but I think there must be a lot of unaired rehearsal footage of them doing the rumba that we will never see.”

Oh there is still a immunity challenge for the finals ? How does it work again ? I didn't watch the All stars season as you can tell mostly because of Vally antics

, urghh.

edy10

09-05-2013

Originally Posted by kindamagic4Fi:
“Interesting that there's no negative comments from Zen/Val fans on same site for piece on Kellie!!
http://www.wetpaint.com/dancing-with...m=Wednesday+13

Power voting is easy on the night its the setting up of accounts that is bit of pain. If you want any help let me know. ”

And they are the first ones to call Z fans immature

SMH. And they seem to think that all Z fans are kids and teens

. I see them cyber-bully a 16 old girl everyday. The hardcore Z fans that I see just mind their own business and defend Z when needs to be. It shouldn't even come to that point. I dont care about team Pickler but you dont see me go everywhere and trash her name if only many people could do that. Lets us just enjoy the dances and vote for our favourites !

edy10

09-05-2013

http://25.media.tumblr.com/13f5e3f02...sfjlo2_250.gif

valc_fan

09-05-2013

Originally Posted by edy10:
“Oh there is still a immunity challenge for the finals ? How does it work again ? I didn't watch the All stars season as you can tell mostly because of Vally antics , urghh.”

No I meant that when all the couples had to prepare for the dance off last week each couple had to prepare a jive, cha cha & rumba. I think all the couples practiced and prepared a 40 second dance. The producers must have footage of Val & Zendaya preparing that dance...that is what I meant.

valc_fan

09-05-2013

http://24.media.tumblr.com/776624bc0...sfjlo1_250.gif

Val getting ready for hip hop.
Source: eastern europimpin tumblr

valc_fan

09-05-2013

http://24.media.tumblr.com/8071cbae6...sfjlo2_250.gif

and this.

sweetmiss

09-05-2013

Seriously how did Aly's AT get the same score as Valdaya's smh.

edy10

09-05-2013

Originally Posted by sweetmiss:
“Seriously how did Aly's AT get the same score as Valdaya's smh.”

I ask myself the same question but decided to just let it go and forget it.....not worth it for me to rant about it so Im just going to hush lol... Unbelievable SMH

sweetmiss

09-05-2013

Edy remember what I said the other day ? Knew it ! http://www.accesshollywood.com/zenda..._article_79232

sweetmiss

09-05-2013

http://valchmerkovskiy.tumblr.com/po...ith-sweetyhigh

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