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Already getting withdrawl symptoms from missing #TeamValdaya so visiting youtubes daily to re watch videos & found someone has put together all their Dance Confessionals in 1 video - so many memories of how great their partnership was.
![]() ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDjV9yCNqls .I dont think Val will ever have a celebrity like Zendaya (such personality, charisma...on the dancefloor..she always walked like she owned that dancefloor ) , just like Maks never had someone like Mel B.Z was just unique special, to his initial reservation about being partnered with her and to see them so close by the end of the season. Carrie Ann said it best the day of the finale (even Tom agreed ): " I am going to really miss see them dance together " . They were just magic on the dancefloor, chemistry lihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4zMeCUG0tU ke no other and now its over .It would be nice if Z does some workshops in his studio at NY or LA but she is such a busy girl that I dont know if its going to happen now. Even better her b-day is this september she always does HUGE celebrations with lots of singing and dancing and it would be nice if she could put a routine with Val and perform on the day of her b-day (btw thats not unusual of her because thats what she always does). I just want to see them dance together one last time ....Thats her sweet 16 last year : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox470smclUE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4zMeCUG0tU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5e9KeJMAy0 Z's dad making a speech So as y'all can see her b-day celebrations are huge spectacles and I cant imagine this one be any different. |
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Zendaya must be the busiest of all the Celebs from this season, there seems to be a new interview appearing daily - IMO shows who was real star of the show.
![]() Had to laugh when she was asked to teach 1 of the presenters some dance steps her 1st thought was that she hoped Val wouldnt be watching her!! ![]() ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDjV9yCNqls .Like I said, you would think she is the winner, she has been getting so much press lately and I love it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv8TNaZOIAI
Not sure when she did this interview....but she saw the video of the little girl crying. Good interview. |
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http://www.americanidol.com/contesta...kellie_pickler
Ok so Kellie lists her talents as dancing & gymnastics. Not sure what level of dance training she's talking about. But apparently she has some sort of background in gymnastics. This explains her flexibility. Funny the entire season it was made to seem as though she was naturally flexible. Finding this out is just annoying given all the grief Zendaya got for being a hip hop dancer. |
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Hey all, thanks for the welcome. I'll definitely be checking every now and then here for updates on Zendaya and Val. I'm missing their dance, but thank God for You Tube. Great to see that she's taking advantage of her momentum. I still have to figure out how to use the quote but in reply to the post above I always suspected that Kellie had more than natural talent as well. It does not mean that she's not talented but I would say that she certainly had contact with some dancing one way or another in her past, even some ballet for that matter. I actually don't mind that but when you think about the massacre Zendaya suffered on the boards for being the supposed "ringer" this season because she had previous experience in hip hop it's utterly unfair.
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Hey all, thanks for the welcome. I'll definitely be checking every now and then here for updates on Zendaya and Val. I'm missing their dance, but thank God for You Tube. Great to see that she's taking advantage of her momentum. I still have to figure out how to use the quote but in reply to the post above I always suspected that Kellie had more than natural talent as well. It does not mean that she's not talented but I would say that she certainly had contact with some dancing one way or another in her past, even some ballet for that matter. I actually don't mind that but when you think about the massacre Zendaya suffered on the boards for being the supposed "ringer" this season because she had previous experience in hip hop it's utterly unfair.
I really didn't care either. I mean when you consider Nicole, Mya, Melissa, Mario Lopez etc, etc, etc. I really don't care if someone has a dance backround on dwts. I'm used to it. So I didn't get all the fuss b/c Zendaya did hip hop. Some Derek fans made it seems as though she was a professional ballroom dancer for crying out loud. The active campaign to make it seem as though she wasn't working hard to learn BALLROOM was ridiculous. I say active campaign because there was an organized effort to put that mis information out there and some people actually believed it. Meanwhile I'm annoyed with Kellie because EVERY time she or Derek were asked about her background she straight up DENIED having ever danced before and that she was flexible when she was younger and remained that way. Never mentioning whatever her dance background is or the fact that she has expierence in gymnastics. Now all this doesn't mean anything as far as the end result of the show. But for ANY Derek/Kellie fans who are MYSTIFIED as to why V&Z fans are pissed about how Z was treated this season. This is ONE of the reasons why. The hypocrosiy and crap that Z had to put up with makes me PISSED at D&K fans. |
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A show like Dwts is sometimes less about the dancing and sometimes more about the politics of the show, sad but its the truth.
During mid-season , Derek & Kellie fans started an active campaign to discredit Zendaya's efforts, calling her a ringer and all sorts of names .... I remember saying to myself at that time, I hope Z's team or Val get on that and by that I mean that they counteract by really emphasizing that sure Z comes for a hip-hop background but the kind of dancing she does on her show is very water-down hip-hop (even I can do some of those moves; case in point her co-star Bella Thorne doesnt have any kind of dancing experience whatsoever but she does the same moves like Z and that alone says A LOT.).-I distinctively remember how in season 10, Derek and Nicole did a tons and I mean a tons of interview to stress the fact that ballroom dancing was still new to her and that even with her extensive dancing background everything was still new to her. Cmon I loved Derek & Nicole back then but that isnt really true but they were succesful in counteracting those ringer claims. Even Mya and Dmitry in season 9, did a lot of interviews at that time to counteract those claims even though they were not really succesful. - The thing is with this show you shouldn't ignore the noise , what people say besides your dancing. Val didnt really address a lot of those ringers claims (He should have ) , Z was the only one defending herself on twitter/her blog ...but thats not enough. He worked with her, know how hard she worked....I think he should have been more pro-active in that regard but I guess he just choosed to ignore it and just focus on the dancing and that really hurt them in the long run . Im not blaming anything on him, no not at all !!! I just think the way he handled those ringers claims was a bit passive/naive and I attribute it to him: - still being a novice at this dwts Marlarkey -never had a very good dancer like Z - and not having enough TV experience. Hopefully in the future, he learns something from this ...... Derek has been doing this show for a long time and has a lot of tv experience to know what works for the show and what doesnt and thats why imo besides his choreography he is very successful in this show. I just had to roll my eyes everytime he kept mentioning how Kellie never had any sort of dance experience and how this was still new for her; Cmon Derek, Till this day, some people still think that Z was a pro dancer I knew these ringers claim were going to hurt Z in the long run and lets not forget that Val doesnt have the same fanbase that Derek , Maks or even Tristan have to start off with.....Oh and also lets not forget that a lot of people were turn off by his showmance with Kellie last season.....Just bringing this up because when you consider all those facts you get a new whole perspective about everything
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Anyway, this was my last season watching dwts but I still hope that val gets another shot at the mirror ball one day; he deserves it
. I dont think the show is going to be on-air for a long time anyway.Oh I will definitively follow Z's career and I cant wait for her to see her become a bigger star than what she already is ![]() ![]() I will keep this thread alive
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https://twitter.com/Zendaya/status/3...508800/photo/1
Z's band's auditions in LA ![]() http://instagram.com/p/ZyN96cpmHo/ Inspired by Suit and Tie of J.T ![]() And its Memorial Day weekend here in the States (very big celebration ), almost everyone is in Vegas and so is Val of course. Letting loose and having a good time : He deserves it .
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Poor Z , having withdrawal symptoms already
![]() Zendaya Coleman @Zendaya 33m two days of doing nothing...👍 Maks reply ![]() Maksim Chmerkovskiy @MaksimC 26m @Zendaya Your life is a DANCE! Never a day with nothing to do
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Oh thank you so much for speaking for all of us Valdaya fans, HATED how Derek fans spread of kinds of lies about Zendaya (another site that comes to mind is puredwt.com, they were horrible towards Zendaya), and I do feel bad that this precious girl had to defend herself. I KNEW that Kellie had dance and gymnastics experience, there's no way she had natural flexibilty and she never danced before (Derek played the game and it worked). Zendaya is getting more publicity than the actual winner, that's says alot about her. There won't ever be another Zendaya and Val, they were magical on the dance floor. It seems like everywhere I go people are posting that they want Zendaya to be paired with Val if there's another All Stars.
P.S. I believe Zendaya will start touring across US and Canada (she talked about in one of the interviews, can't remember which one). Forgot to add thank you for keeping this thread alive!!!! The number of viewers for Zendaya and Val dances surpasses all of the other couples, perfection at its best!!! |
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Oh thank you so much for speaking for all of us Valdaya fans, HATED how Derek fans spread of kinds of lies about Zendaya (another site that comes to mind is puredwt.com, they were horrible towards Zendaya), and I do feel bad that this precious girl had to defend herself. I KNEW that Kellie had dance and gymnastics experience, there's no way she had natural flexibilty and she never danced before (Derek played the game and it worked). Zendaya is getting more publicity than the actual winner, that's says alot about her. There won't ever be another Zendaya and Val, they were magical on the dance floor. It seems like everywhere I go people are posting that they want Zendaya to be paired with Val if there's another All Stars.
P.S. I believe Zendaya will start touring across US and Canada (she talked about in one of the interviews, can't remember which one). Forgot to add thank you for keeping this thread alive!!!! The number of viewers for Zendaya and Val dances surpasses all of the other couples, perfection at its best!!! Anyways, yes I will make a conscious effort to keep this thread alive . Z has a lot and I mean a lot stuff coming up so there is that .Glad to see her getting a lot of publicity from it, I havent heard anything about kellie since the GMA interview and she is the winner . |
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Edy, I'm going to miss my Monday nights so much, loved watching them dance together. Even the judges acknowledged their amazing partnership, yep, there won't be any other Zendaya and Val, this couple were very special.
I'll be coming here from time to time for any updates, Zendaya is quite the busy girl and gaining a lot of popularity. I too haven't heard anything about Kellie after GMA and the fact that she was the winner (well to me the true winner was Zendaya). |
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Edy, I'm going to miss my Monday nights so much, loved watching them dance together. Even the judges acknowledged their amazing partnership, yep, there won't be any other Zendaya and Val, this couple were very special.
I'll be coming here from time to time for any updates, Zendaya is quite the busy girl and gaining a lot of popularity. I too haven't heard anything about Kellie after GMA and the fact that she was the winner (well to me the true winner was Zendaya). .Oh well, all good things come to an end, right ? Im excited to see all projects that Z has coming up. Its Memorial day here in the States and everyone is still celebrating/drinking/whatever.....Vegas is the place to be right now because everyone I know seem to be there and big time celebrities too so I know Val/Maks/friends are having a good time out there ![]() ![]()
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Surprised to see some recognition of the high jinx that goes on with DWTS. Val is not a virgin to the show, he knows well how the game is played. He watched his brother go through it for 15 seasons and chose not to do it. I'm sure Zen was educated on what to expect. The show is set up for Derek to be the one that shines simply by the fact that he gets the most capable partners routinely. Val knows the odds of beating Derek are a negative. It isn't just on DWTS, but SCD also.
The song the couple gets to dance to plays a major role, the position they dance in, the style of dances, the publicity they are given and their fan base all play a role. Even the way they dress. They also received help with the choreography. Derek has been the golden child since he started on DWTS. He's also Len's favorite. Derek is the only PRO that doesn't have to actually do the specific style of dance assigned. His dances lean more toward Contemporary instead of ballroom. If the others try to be innovative, Len complains that they didn't do the dance right and embarrasses them. With Derek, it's always he's innovative and it's something new. Many people that watch a lot of dancing are starting to catch on that Derek's routines look a lot like SYTYCD routines because some are, there is a lot of Las Vegas act and Youtube copying from the masters. When you give him the most capable partner each season to showcase of course he's going to be thought of as the best choreographer and greatest dancer. Val and Zen gave us a taste of what it would be like to have the dance floor equal in dance talent only. If all the PROS had the same opportunity to have capable partners as much as Derek does, Derek wouldn't shine as much. The other PROS would have a chance to show what they could really do also. They have to dance to the level of the partner they get for the season. Val really did get lucky with Zen, but Val is a champion Latin Ballroom dancer. He knows that he will be valued for the work he put in with Zen and not just 'smoke and mirrors act' that Derek does. |
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Surprised to see some recognition of the high jinx that goes on with DWTS. Val is not a virgin to the show, he knows well how the game is played. He watched his brother go through it for 15 seasons and chose not to do it. I'm sure Zen was educated on what to expect. The show is set up for Derek to be the one that shines simply by the fact that he gets the most capable partners routinely. Val knows the odds of beating Derek are a negative. It isn't just on DWTS, but SCD also.
The song the couple gets to dance to plays a major role, the position they dance in, the style of dances, the publicity they are given and their fan base all play a role. Even the way they dress. They also received help with the choreography. Derek has been the golden child since he started on DWTS. He's also Len's favorite. Derek is the only PRO that doesn't have to actually do the specific style of dance assigned. His dances lean more toward Contemporary instead of ballroom. If the others try to be innovative, Len complains that they didn't do the dance right and embarrasses them. With Derek, it's always he's innovative and it's something new. Many people that watch a lot of dancing are starting to catch on that Derek's routines look a lot like SYTYCD routines because some are, there is a lot of Las Vegas act and Youtube copying from the masters. When you give him the most capable partner each season to showcase of course he's going to be thought of as the best choreographer and greatest dancer. Val and Zen gave us a taste of what it would be like to have the dance floor equal in dance talent only. If all the PROS had the same opportunity to have capable partners as much as Derek does, Derek wouldn't shine as much. The other PROS would have a chance to show what they could really do also. They have to dance to the level of the partner they get for the season. Val really did get lucky with Zen, but Val is a champion Latin Ballroom dancer. He knows that he will be valued for the work he put in with Zen and not just 'smoke and mirrors act' that Derek does. And lets not forget that TPTB were never going to make Derek loses again especially after the All stars. Im still a bit pissed that Z's AT didnt get a 10 from Len , he really was saving that for Derek ![]() .It was the most the memorable AT from the season and coincidentally Z's favorite dance. Not taking anything from Kellie because she did an amazing AT but cmon when you compare it to Z, its a travesty that Z didnt get a perfect score on that one. The bias that Derek gets on this show is sickening though, he gets away with far too much . I especially agree with the BIB |
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Val will be at Jacoby's event next week in New Orleans and so will a lot of pro dancers and celebs
![]() I wished Z could go to but with her band auditions, shooting her music video and photoshoots......Im not sure she will .Anyways, Im really looking forward to that event .
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Val will be at Jacoby's event next week in New Orleans and so will a lot of pro dancers and celebs
![]() I wished Z could go to but with her band auditions, shooting her music video and photoshoots......Im not sure she will .Anyways, Im really looking forward to that event .Found this article about the event. It will be great to see any dwts cast at this event. I wonder if Karina and Jacoby will do their freestyle? edy10 how do you know Val will be at this event? |
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http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf..._jacoby_j.html
Found this article about the event. It will be great to see any dwts cast at this event. I wonder if Karina and Jacoby will do their freestyle? edy10 how do you know Val will be at this event? ![]() VaL @iamValC 4h “@iamKimmieHo: @iamValC Hoping u can grant my one wish to meet you at Jacoby's basketball event. DWTS is my life! I'm a huge fan!!!” DONE ![]() That's pretty conclusive , isnt it ? Im Actually surprised that he will be there but cant complain. I wished Z would be there though .
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http://www.mobli.com/media/show/id/66515360
Zendaya Coleman @Zendaya 35m Monday night withdrawals !! #dancingwiththewalls @iamvalc http://mob.li/_8AQSJ cute and I'm starting to have Valdaya withdrawal symptoms too
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To all the American neighbours, hope you had a wonderful Memorial Day.
Boy last night was tough, no Valdaya dances to look forward too. I truly wish Zendaya would be at Jacoby's charity event but with all the projects that she has right now she might not be able. My wish that the music video would be postponed after the game (pleading, ). I'm still upset that Zendaya and Val didn't get a 30 for their A/T that was an amazing showstopper complex routine. Dancing With the Stars Season 14 I was so rooting for one of my favourite couple Chelsie and Roshon (he plays Zendaya TV brother on Shake It Up) to make it to the finals but every single week they were unscored and others who barely even danced where overscored and then TPTB had to make sure they were eliminated beforehand so Derek and his partner make it to the semi finals, took me a while to get over that one (Chelsie and Roshon for their final dance they did their freestyle for all their and it was amazing worth a 30, loved their partnership just like Val and Zendaya). Zendaya and Val should have won the MTB, they were the BEST in my humble opinion.
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To all the American neighbours, hope you had a wonderful Memorial Day.
Boy last night was tough, no Valdaya dances to look forward too. I truly wish Zendaya would be at Jacoby's charity event but with all the projects that she has right now she might not be able. My wish that the music video would be postponed after the game (pleading, ). I'm still upset that Zendaya and Val didn't get a 30 for their A/T that was an amazing showstopper complex routine. Dancing With the Stars Season 14 I was so rooting for one of my favourite couple Chelsie and Roshon (he plays Zendaya TV brother on Shake It Up) to make it to the finals but every single week they were unscored and others who barely even danced where overscored and then TPTB had to make sure they were eliminated beforehand so Derek and his partner make it to the semi finals, took me a while to get over that one (Chelsie and Roshon for their final dance they did their freestyle for all their and it was amazing worth a 30, loved their partnership just like Val and Zendaya). Zendaya and Val should have won the MTB, they were the BEST in my humble opinion. .And thanks , I had a great Memorial day weekend ![]() Unfortunately , the best doesn't always win, it sucks but C'est La vie. |
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Val posted this last night http://instagram.com/p/Z2I21GBTUh/
![]() I just love to see how Z clearly inspired him a lot this season; its lovely to see ![]() And yeah as much as I want Z to be at that Basketball's event, I doubt she will be because she is a busy bee right now. She is learning the choreo for her music video today and holding band auditions today, tomorrow and Thursday I think so yeah......her schedule is pretty tight. |
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Yes Zendaya did inspired him this season. My Mondays are not the same anymore, love watching them dance. This is my wish for Zendaya to do a dance movie (e.g., Dance With Me) and Val could make an appearance (Patrick Swayze was on Dirty Dancing #2) and choreograph the dances, I'll be at the movie premiere in a blink of an eye (lol). I think you're right Zendaya might not be able to make it for Jacoby's charity event, she schedule is too tight.
P.S. Glad to hear that you had a wonderful Memorial Day! You got that right the best don't always win. |
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