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People who are constantly traveling or on luxury holidays
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walterwhite
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dusk1983:
“You know the type - every time you log into Facebook yet another exotic photo album pops up.

Or at a dinner party when the topic of traveling comes up, and there's people of 30 years that have been to almost every continent.

How do these people afford it / how did they afford it? Although you wouldn't believe it listening to these folk, traveling IS unbelievably expensive. They're honestly not rich, but they always seem to have the money for an impromptu trip to Asia or new York.

My suspicion is that it's typically only people who inherit wealth in one form or another that go traveling in any serious way.

My ex-gf was like that, but she described her year going around the world as her own "grand adventure", when in reality it was a extremely special gift from her parents.”

Perhaps they just save up for it? I've been all over the world by saving damn hard for every holiday i've had.
odie8391
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dusk1983:
“Thinking about it some more, everyone I know like this that has indeed had a "secret" income or source of wealth. Secret because they don't tell mention it when discussing how they budget for stuff. Be it savings, shares, inheritance or just very generous gifts from wealthy relatives.”

What?

If it's a secret, how would you know if they have a "source of wealth"? That is you making an assumption that, because they are able to afford to go on holiday, they must be hoarding some of their dead grandparents inheritence or similar.

And what makes you sure they have the same lifestyle as you? Do you all have carbon copies of each others home? Do you all buy the exact same things at the supermarket/go out to eat at the exact same restaurants? Unless you're spying on them 24/7, then you don't know where they are able to cut back/make savings.

And so what if they've had "good fortune" (which, by the looks of your post, is something you've made up and got stuck in your head), why should they acknowledge it and be thankful that they have such good fortune?
sweh
23-04-2013
New York is hardly exotic and trips to Asia from London is incredibly cheap.

Some people work very hard and save their money for travelling. Sheesh.
exlordlucan
23-04-2013
You don't have to be filthy rich to afford frequent holidays, just save for them.

Thanks to the smoking ban we are quids in every month and have taken many holidays including winter cruises.

Recession, high energy costs etc etc? not as far as we are concerned
johnF1971
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dusk1983:
“You know the type - every time you log into Facebook yet another exotic photo album pops up.

Or at a dinner party when the topic of traveling comes up, and there's people of 30 years that have been to almost every continent.

How do these people afford it / how did they afford it? Although you wouldn't believe it listening to these folk, traveling IS unbelievably expensive. They're honestly not rich, but they always seem to have the money for an impromptu trip to Asia or new York.

My suspicion is that it's typically only people who inherit wealth in one form or another that go traveling in any serious way.

My ex-gf was like that, but she described her year going around the world as her own "grand adventure", when in reality it was a extremely special gift from her parents.”

I'm guessing you're one of those people who spends all their available money on a reasonably new car, expensive clothes, numerous expensive nights out, a top of the range smart phone and other electronic gadgets and then can't understand why you can't afford to go travelling abroad like some other people!
el_bardos
23-04-2013
People who complain they can't afford 'exotic' holidays while on a reasonable wage are usually the ones who wee £50 up the wall every friday and saturday night out on the lash.
stargazer61
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by el_bardos:
“People who complain they can't afford 'exotic' holidays while on a reasonable wage are usually the ones who wee £50 up the wall every friday and saturday night out on the lash.”

even just £50 per week is £2600 pa...certainly enough for a couple of holidays!
walterwhite
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“even just £50 per week is £2600 pa...certainly enough for a couple of holidays!”

It's a good point. I afford them by very rarely going to the pub, running one car when we really need two and generally just saving. It's not rocket science.
stargazer61
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“It's a good point. I afford them by very rarely going to the pub, running one car when we really need two and generally just saving. It's not rocket science.”

I go out to a pub once or twice a month and spend around £15 a night. Generally only upgrade equipment when I need to as opposed to when I want to. My hobbies are such that I have to wear old clothes(!). I never buy a new car...usually one 2 or 3 years old. Don't buy new furniture every couple of years because fashion has changed! I do smoke but am cutting down. Have to use a car because I live in an area with little public transport. But still save enough money to go on one major holiday a year costing say £2k including spending money plus a couple of short breaks to European cities. it is a question of priorities.
katywil
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by USIM:
“There are lot of things which can make travel really quite cheap. The more of these boxes you can tick, the cheaper it gets:
[LIST][*]Able to travel at short notice, and prepared to take last minute deals.[*]Travel at "off peak" times[*]Travel as a couple, with no kids.[*]In good health (travel insurance can be really cheap if you have no "pre-existing medical condtions" and shop around)[*]Book from "bucket" websites, and be prepared to accept that 1 holiday in 5 will not meet your expectations.[*]Be prepared to accept uncomfortable flights (e.g. middle of the night, 8 hour connection in Minsk kind of flight) to get a cheaper booking.[*]Travel regularly, that way you already have all the extras that infrequent travelers need to buy.[*]Stay with friends in your destination country. (Make friends the first time you visit, then scrounge off them the next time you visit )[*]Be prepared to shop around, and go to less fashionable destinations.[*]Use public transport, or walk, whenever possible during your stay.[*]Buy your food where the locals buy their food.[/LIST]
Personally, I can't tick any of these boxes, so holidays are really expensive for me, but friends who travel a lot do tick all the boxes.”

i travel a lot and i tick most of those boxes you listed but i dont stay with friends. i love using public transport and shopping in local shops. i'm far from rich so i eat cheap at home, dont buy fancy cars. i never go out to restaurants or pubs in britain. my money is for holidays. i read a lot of travel books and there are people who cycle and backpack everywhere . thats really cheap and very interesting as you see the real country not just tourist-town.
give it a go Op. get a bike and a ferry ticket. easy
Kiko H Fan
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dusk1983:
“You know the type - every time you log into Facebook yet another exotic photo album pops up.

Or at a dinner party when the topic of traveling comes up, and there's people of 30 years that have been to almost every continent.

How do these people afford it / how did they afford it? Although you wouldn't believe it listening to these folk, traveling IS unbelievably expensive. They're honestly not rich, but they always seem to have the money for an impromptu trip to Asia or new York.

My suspicion is that it's typically only people who inherit wealth in one form or another that go traveling in any serious way.

My ex-gf was like that, but she described her year going around the world as her own "grand adventure", when in reality it was a extremely special gift from her parents.”


Shop at Tesco. Turn clubcard points into Avios and fly British Airways Club Class.

Stay at Marriott hotels. Build up the points. Redeem them, say, for 2 free nights on a 3 night stay at a 5 star Marriott hotel in Rome, on a rugby weekend.

Buy a 'dream pot' ceramic money box that can only be opened by smashing it. Stick your loose change and notes in there every Sunday evening. Open it after a year. Convert the money into Euros for holiday spending.

That's how we 'do' our travel and very nice it is too.
heavy_rotation
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by pinkyponk34:
“One doesn't like to generalise but when someone is affording stuff that their supposed income can't afford you'll find they are either defrauding their employers or the Benefits system or are taking part in other crimnal activity.”

Savings, inheritance, deals on flights/accommodation and other things can be the case too.

Originally Posted by Alan1981:
“Most of it is just facade to show their facebook friends how good their lives are. Most of us take a few photos whilst on holiday, but don't feel the need to upload 400 pictures to facebook.

It's the same as people who go to a gig and spend the entire time filming the show, just to upload to facebook. No one wants to watch 40 minutes of grainy footage of one direction from 300 metres away. Just enjoy the band ffs.”

That's what Facebook is for. To share your life. Does that not include holiday snaps? :/ Mostly people just batch upload and don't think "wow 400 photos, everyone's going to be so jealous!"
heavy_rotation
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dusk1983:
“I tick every single box that my frequently-traveling friends tick.

And they might have jobs that pay a few grand more, sure, but there's not enough difference in our primary incomes to explain the huge difference in our travel outlooks.”

A few grand more? How is that not enough difference? Holidays can cost as little as £400
riceuten
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dusk1983:
“You know the type - every time you log into Facebook yet another exotic photo album pops up.

Or at a dinner party when the topic of traveling comes up, and there's people of 30 years that have been to almost every continent.

How do these people afford it / how did they afford it? Although you wouldn't believe it listening to these folk, traveling IS unbelievably expensive. They're honestly not rich, but they always seem to have the money for an impromptu trip to Asia or new York.

My suspicion is that it's typically only people who inherit wealth in one form or another that go traveling in any serious way.

My ex-gf was like that, but she described her year going around the world as her own "grand adventure", when in reality it was a extremely special gift from her parents.”

You don't need to be that rich to travel widely. By flying with budget airlines, staying in 2 star hotels or self catering apartments, and by not caning it every night drinking your own body weight in alcopops, I've taken holidays over 3 weeks for the price some people spend on one. Some of my former work colleagues told me they'd "never stay in a hotel of 3 stars or less", and were happy to "live like a king for a week rather than 'rought it' (their words) for 3 weeks". And yet I've stayed in pleasant 2 star accommodation that's been more comfortable than 4 star. For instance Some 4 star hotels charge €20 or more for breakfast, per person, per day - sheesh, I can dine out in the evening cheaper than that. Eating the dish of the day, especially in France or Spain, will save you megabucks rather than eating a la carte.

All of which is fair enough, but that's how you make your money go further, if that's what you want. As I'm spending my days on holiday outside the accommodation mainly, I don't really a 50 inch telly with Sky Sports, nor do I need towels folding into interesting shapes or chocolates and rose petals on the beds to be brutally honest with you. Clean, tidy, comfortable and near to transport is all I ask for. I recognise other people want different things - there's nothing that fills me more with dread that "evening entertainment" at hotels but it may be someone else's bag. Who am I to lecture them?

Bear in mind much exotic travel is done on the never never, these people will be paying these bills off for years to come.
johnF1971
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dusk1983:
“I tick every single box that my frequently-traveling friends tick.

And they might have jobs that pay a few grand more, sure, but there's not enough difference in our primary incomes to explain the huge difference in our travel outlooks.”

I'm assuming you have a reasonably paid job and don't have any kids to support?

Have you ever sat down and looked at where the money you earn goes each month? I'm guessing there are a number of cut backs you could make that would mean you could afford more foreign holidays if that's your priority.
linnylou
23-04-2013
Maybe people just save their money wisely for a decent holiday and don't go wasting their hard-earned wages on all sorts of material crap that they don't really need anyway.
Dusk1983
23-04-2013
Some good thoughts and ideas on this thread, thanks.

I don't spy on these people but I do know what sort of lifestyle they have, because I share it with them! There's no way they spend less than me in their daily lives, if anything many of them spend more!

Ho hum, I guess they just get paid that little bit more, manage their money better and use their credit cards. BTW I would ask but I think it's bad form to investigate people's finances.
thefairydandy
23-04-2013
I could spend an extra £400 a month, and not bother saving - I could have a brand new car, and spend a lot on new clothes and expensive restaurants. I don't though, and I'm going on a 3 week holiday to New Zealand instead. See, that was easy, wasn't it?
Honestweegie
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dusk1983:
“You know the type - every time you log into Facebook yet another exotic photo album pops up.

Or at a dinner party when the topic of traveling comes up, and there's people of 30 years that have been to almost every continent.

How do these people afford it / how did they afford it? Although you wouldn't believe it listening to these folk, traveling IS unbelievably expensive. They're honestly not rich, but they always seem to have the money for an impromptu trip to Asia or new York.

My suspicion is that it's typically only people who inherit wealth in one form or another that go traveling in any serious way.

My ex-gf was like that, but she described her year going around the world as her own "grand adventure", when in reality it was a extremely special gift from her parents.”

They take out several credit cards and max them
wench
23-04-2013
I used to travel loads but that was because I was a richly paid contractor who only worked 9 months of the year and then travelled for 3 months.

But then I didn't have a home, mortgage, husband or kids and so my disposable income was huge and my love was travelling.

Some people spend their money on designer clothes and handbags, I spend mine on flights and holidays.
jarryhack
23-04-2013
I honestly never see this on Facebook and no one I knows goes further than Greece Seriously if these people are going on all these luxury holidays, good on them, I wish it was me ..We only really manage to go on holiday every 2 or 3 years, though that will change as soon as my youngest hits 17
Victoria Sponge
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dusk1983:
“Nothing wrong with it, I just wish more people would acknowledge their own good fortune and display some kind of realisation that trips are expensive, and not something many people can afford without "extra help".”

Exactly what is it you want these people to do? Give you a detailed itinerary of how much they're spending on holidays (in which case you'd no doubt be even more green with envy at their 'boasting' of spending funds)? Or do you want to see their wage slips? Bank statements?
Kaylalou
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dusk1983:
“Duh, of course I'm bloody jealous. Why would I have posted this otherwise? It's pure and utter jealousy. All these people who have similar jobs to me, live in similar places to me, have similar lifestyles at home... but they "mysteriously" manage to see the world, too.

And I'm not talking about those of you who are maybe a few years older, have worked for more years, or have retired, I'm talking about people in their 20s!

Thinking about it some more, everyone I know like this that has indeed had a "secret" income or source of wealth. Secret because they don't tell mention it when discussing how they budget for stuff. Be it savings, shares, inheritance or just very generous gifts from wealthy relatives.

Nothing wrong with it, I just wish more people would acknowledge their own good fortune and display some kind of realisation that trips are expensive, and not something many people can afford without "extra help".”

Eh, Im 21 and I scrimped and saved and managed to do it. I didn't have any extra source of income except when I would do extra shifts. No money from parents or anything. Plus its not always pricey, Ive booked two weeks in Thailand khao lak for under 1000 pounds, with breakfast, flights and a decent four star resort.
jazzyjazzy
23-04-2013
We left home end of October and will be back on 1st May having traveled through Australia, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam and no it has not been posted on facebook.
We saved up to spend our retirement traveling and choose not to spend our money in pubs and restaurants, buying unnecessary consumer stuff and a new car every year.
Our Winter Gas and Electric bills were minimal, no car expenses, no mobile phone and internet costs so there is a fortune towards our travels.
We have done this for a few years now and hopefully do it for many more to come.
shhhhh
23-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dusk1983:
“You know the type - every time you log into Facebook yet another exotic photo album pops up.

Or at a dinner party when the topic of traveling comes up, and there's people of 30 years that have been to almost every continent.

How do these people afford it / how did they afford it? Although you wouldn't believe it listening to these folk, traveling IS unbelievably expensive. They're honestly not rich, but they always seem to have the money for an impromptu trip to Asia or new York.

My suspicion is that it's typically only people who inherit wealth in one form or another that go traveling in any serious way.

My ex-gf was like that, but she described her year going around the world as her own "grand adventure", when in reality it was a extremely special gift from her parents.”

Most of them are living on the equity in their house.

Basically they keep borrowing another £20,000 every now and again.
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