Olly Murs debut US album "Right Place Right Time" (special edition including a few tracks from his other albums) debuts at #18 on the BILLBOARD 200 with a little less than 19k.
(US) Olly Murs debuts at #18 with 19k sold.
I think that that's really good for a new artist......hopefully he builds it up and he song Troublemaker seem to be doing well on iTunes
Wow, people were writing him off a little while ago. Good news. Hopefully he will get some exposure on X Factor USA later in the year.
Doesn't sound very good to me. If it peaks at that its poor. Dancing with the Stars described him as an "international superstar" who'd sold 5 million albums worldwide, lol! He must have written that script himself.
It's down to #37 on iTunes now when capital fm were saying a few days ago he'd cracked the top ten on iTunes. He's been on TV a few times already promoting in decent slots and it doesn't seem to have helped his album at all.
It's down to #37 on iTunes now when capital fm were saying a few days ago he'd cracked the top ten on iTunes. He's been on TV a few times already promoting in decent slots and it doesn't seem to have helped his album at all.
Originally Posted by PCRose:
“Doesn't sound very good to me. If it peaks at that its poor. Dancing with the Stars described him as an "international superstar" who'd sold 5 million albums worldwide, lol! He must have written that script himself.
It's down to #37 on iTunes now when capital fm were saying a few days ago he'd cracked the top ten on iTunes. He's been on TV a few times already promoting in decent slots and it doesn't seem to have helped his album at all.”
“Doesn't sound very good to me. If it peaks at that its poor. Dancing with the Stars described him as an "international superstar" who'd sold 5 million albums worldwide, lol! He must have written that script himself.
It's down to #37 on iTunes now when capital fm were saying a few days ago he'd cracked the top ten on iTunes. He's been on TV a few times already promoting in decent slots and it doesn't seem to have helped his album at all.”
Lol troublemaker didnt even get top 15 on itunes
To those not familiar with US charts, these are horrible numbers that are dropped-from-label worthy.
Good thing he has his international sales.
Good thing he has his international sales.
Originally Posted by achro:
“To those not familiar with US charts, these are HORRIBLE numbers.”
“To those not familiar with US charts, these are HORRIBLE numbers.”
If he is at #18, does this mean that only the top 10 or 5 has decent sales in the US?
Not that it seemed huge in my eyes, but considering the #18, I thought maybe it wasn't that bad in the current market...
Originally Posted by Antonio_Villela:
“Lol troublemaker didnt even get top 15 on itunes”
“Lol troublemaker didnt even get top 15 on itunes”
I read it peaked at #29 on billboard.
Not really great sales, but not a disaster either, it's sort of MOR, rather like how Rebecca did out in the US.
However, considering this is his 2nd single there (after the 1st failed to make any impact), and given the notable amount of promotion he has done out there for quite some time, the album really should have done better than this, but even so, a top 20 album in the US is not exactly easy to get, so well done to Olly.
I'm not sure whether he has a sustainable future in the US but it's a decent level taking everything into account. I think he's more suited to Europe though.
However, considering this is his 2nd single there (after the 1st failed to make any impact), and given the notable amount of promotion he has done out there for quite some time, the album really should have done better than this, but even so, a top 20 album in the US is not exactly easy to get, so well done to Olly.
I'm not sure whether he has a sustainable future in the US but it's a decent level taking everything into account. I think he's more suited to Europe though.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Only 18,000 sales? Thats poor in America. Looks like all the hardwork didnt pay off for Mr Murs.”
“Only 18,000 sales? Thats poor in America. Looks like all the hardwork didnt pay off for Mr Murs.”
He took the easy route in via a rent-a-rapper. I can't see him ever scoring a hit by himself in the US.
I guess his label didnt give him enough promo.
If we compare is his promotion with Cher Lloyd's, his label failed HARD.
She performed on America's Got Talent to promote Want U Back and Today Show to promote Want U Back & the iTunes pre-order of her album.
On the album release week she had TV performances everyday: Today Show, Live With Kelly & Michael, The Ellen Degeneres Show, Dancing With The Stars and The Tonight Show w/ Jay Leno.
Well, another thing.. Troublemaker is now bigger than WUB was on the radio, I just dont know why people arent buying the single.. at this time, WUB was already top 5 on iTunes.
If we compare is his promotion with Cher Lloyd's, his label failed HARD.
She performed on America's Got Talent to promote Want U Back and Today Show to promote Want U Back & the iTunes pre-order of her album.
On the album release week she had TV performances everyday: Today Show, Live With Kelly & Michael, The Ellen Degeneres Show, Dancing With The Stars and The Tonight Show w/ Jay Leno.
Well, another thing.. Troublemaker is now bigger than WUB was on the radio, I just dont know why people arent buying the single.. at this time, WUB was already top 5 on iTunes.
Originally Posted by Antonio_Villela:
“I guess his label didnt give him enough promo.
If we compare is his promotion with Cher Lloyd's, his label failed HARD.
She performed on America's Got Talent to promote Want U Back and Today Show to promote Want U Back & the iTunes pre-order of her album.
On the album release week she had TV performances everyday: Today Show, Live With Kelly & Michael, The Ellen Degeneres Show, Dancing With The Stars and The Tonight Show w/ Jay Leno.
Well, another thing.. Troublemaker is now bigger than WUB was on the radio, I just dont know why people arent buying the single.. at this time, WUB was already top 5 on iTunes.”
“I guess his label didnt give him enough promo.
If we compare is his promotion with Cher Lloyd's, his label failed HARD.
She performed on America's Got Talent to promote Want U Back and Today Show to promote Want U Back & the iTunes pre-order of her album.
On the album release week she had TV performances everyday: Today Show, Live With Kelly & Michael, The Ellen Degeneres Show, Dancing With The Stars and The Tonight Show w/ Jay Leno.
Well, another thing.. Troublemaker is now bigger than WUB was on the radio, I just dont know why people arent buying the single.. at this time, WUB was already top 5 on iTunes.”
its getting better airplay presumably due to song being perfect for us radio. it sounds a bit like maroon 5, who are huge on us radio and the flo rida addition is the icing on the cake. the single isn't doing so badly, but it is possible its peaked. unfortunately, radio spins don't always guarantee a single`s success and while he may not have had the extensive promotion cher had, it does seem like the song had everything else going for it.
his album sales are also disappointing, but not really that awful considering he's only had 1 top 30 hit. its possible that a lack of physical promotion is to blame, but he tour with one direction there last year and he has had some high profile tv promotion along with a great amount of radio spins. so its hardly a completely under the radar release, all things considered.
the us is an extremely difficult market to crack. the likes of one direction can find success there fairly quickly due to them being somewhat of a worldwide phenomenon on a smaller scale of the spice girls. however, the likes of adele, an artist that really has cracked america in the true sense of the word, after having 3 consecutive #1 singles and two multi platinum albums, well that can take years to achieve.
he has a good career here in europe, so all is not lost, even if this is the peak of his us popularly.
Any chart runs orfigures for his album sales in Europe outside the UK? He can't have sold 5 million worldwide when he's just about done half that in the UK.
Originally Posted by Amazing:
“Any chart runs orfigures for his album sales in Europe outside the UK? He can't have sold 5 million worldwide when he's just about done half that in the UK.”
“Any chart runs orfigures for his album sales in Europe outside the UK? He can't have sold 5 million worldwide when he's just about done half that in the UK.”
Well, if you count singles + album sales, can't it work then? He has 2 albums (at least) & several successfull singles...
Originally Posted by annushka:
“Well, if you count singles + album sales, can't it work then? He has 2 albums (at least) & several successfull singles...”
“Well, if you count singles + album sales, can't it work then? He has 2 albums (at least) & several successfull singles...”
That's not what was said at the start of his performance on Dancing with the Stars. They definitely said 5 million albums. Masking the figures to back up their introduction calling him an international superstar.
Originally Posted by Amazing:
“That's not what was said at the start of his performance on Dancing with the Stars. They definitely said 5 million albums. Masking the figures to back up their introduction calling him an international superstar.”
“That's not what was said at the start of his performance on Dancing with the Stars. They definitely said 5 million albums. Masking the figures to back up their introduction calling him an international superstar.”
It's pretty common for the promotional spiel to manipulate the figures for a lot of artists.
Like the other poster said, SINGLES and albums could add up to this amount, but I would think even that total has been inflated .
Originally Posted by Amazing:
“That's not what was said at the start of his performance on Dancing with the Stars. They definitely said 5 million albums. Masking the figures to back up their introduction calling him an international superstar.”
“That's not what was said at the start of his performance on Dancing with the Stars. They definitely said 5 million albums. Masking the figures to back up their introduction calling him an international superstar.”
Look at this website about I-tunes sales:
http://www.itunescharts.net/uk/artists/music/olly-murs/
Some of the singles were sold as EP = counted as albums...
We can also see the list of countries where he charted, and there are more than I though (OK, he didn't chart very high, but still).
Add to that the physical albums sales... Maybe that explains that.
But I agree that it looks suspicious
To be fair he still did a lot better than the american contenstants seem to be doing. At least they can add him to their montage of success stories when the third series of XFUS starts!
Originally Posted by Marguerite:
“It's pretty common for the promotional spiel to manipulate the figures for a lot of artists.
Like the other poster said, SINGLES and albums could add up to this amount, but I would think even that total has been inflated .”
“It's pretty common for the promotional spiel to manipulate the figures for a lot of artists.
Like the other poster said, SINGLES and albums could add up to this amount, but I would think even that total has been inflated .”
Yes it is common, the laughable bit of the script was that he was an international superstar!
Originally Posted by annushka:
“Look at this website about I-tunes sales:
http://www.itunescharts.net/uk/artists/music/olly-murs/
Some of the singles were sold as EP = counted as albums...
We can also see the list of countries where he charted, and there are more than I though (OK, he didn't chart very high, but still).
Add to that the physical albums sales... Maybe that explains that.
But I agree that it looks suspicious”
“Look at this website about I-tunes sales:
http://www.itunescharts.net/uk/artists/music/olly-murs/
Some of the singles were sold as EP = counted as albums...
We can also see the list of countries where he charted, and there are more than I though (OK, he didn't chart very high, but still).
Add to that the physical albums sales... Maybe that explains that.
But I agree that it looks suspicious
”
Thanks for the links with those positions he will be looking to have sold a couple of hundred k albums never mind over 2.5million.
His promo will have been very costly so hopefully he's actually made some money
Originally Posted by Amazing:
“Thanks for the links with those positions he will be looking to have sold a couple of hundred k albums never mind over 2.5million.
His promo will have been very costly so hopefully he's actually made some money”
“Thanks for the links with those positions he will be looking to have sold a couple of hundred k albums never mind over 2.5million.
His promo will have been very costly so hopefully he's actually made some money”
You are welcome, I think it's a very interesting website.
However, I found that link in the LM thread tbh
It's true that his promo in the US was big (compared to Rebecca Fergusong for example, maybe not compared to other acts like Cher LLoyd or 1D), so it might have been a bit costly.
For all the money spent on his promo the album tanked this week:
19 57 MURS*OLLY RIGHT PLACE RIGHT TIME 6,978 -64 19,205 26,215
19 down to 57 is a huge drop. His promo seems to have gone badly wrong.
I know Troublemaker has sold loads despite not even getting top 20 but that could just make him a one hit wonder.
19 57 MURS*OLLY RIGHT PLACE RIGHT TIME 6,978 -64 19,205 26,215
19 down to 57 is a huge drop. His promo seems to have gone badly wrong.
I know Troublemaker has sold loads despite not even getting top 20 but that could just make him a one hit wonder.
