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American Idol Top 4 Live Show + Results Discussion
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WhyHelloWorld
24-04-2013
So we have the four girls remaining....

Amber
Angie
Candice
Kree

Could we see a shock elimination of Candice leaving? The best vocalist on the show?

Or will Amber, a bottom 2 regular, be going home?

Interesting song choices this week (but Angie...a Jessie J song...AGAIN...one you have ALREADY sung....and Amber...wot?) Candice singing Drake!? How will THAT work?
Makson
25-04-2013
I get a slight hunch that Randy would rather like to see Amber in the final...
WhyHelloWorld
25-04-2013
Spoiler


Thought on the night...

Amber - Good vocally, but both performances absolutely bored me. So much. The praise from the judges for her is completely OTT. She doesn't connect with me at all.

Angie - For the love of god. It's so bloody annoying how everything she sings now sounds exactly the same. Singing Jessie J again, really? Can she do anything else? Urgh.

Kree - Now...i actually really liked her, properly, for the first time! Thought her choices were good, and thought the judges were quite harsh.

Candice - Not her best, but still manages to make it look much easier than the others. Her 'guilty pleasure' song was kind of boring, but her arrangement of the Drake song was absolutely beautiful i thought.

Overall rankings - and i am taking everything into account....Connection, Artistry...etc...

1) Candice
2) Kree
3) Amber
4) Angie

Candice and Angie's duet was amazing, it shows how far ahead Candice is, compared to Angie. Also - Candice being ill and she STILL sounds great, wow. I just love this girl.
I think it's very clear that Angie's vocals aren't as good as the other 3 now....and....i would prefer it if Amber was to go, but i think Angie SHOULD go. However, after last nights performances i think Candice will leave. Kree will get a big rebound vote after being in bottom 2. Amber will get the people that listen to the judges voting for her. Angie has a big fanbase, who love her no matter of what she sings, so Candice will probably leave. I think that it will be a complete travesty if she does.

I think the judges are being so ridiculous. Favouring Angie when she is on the piano - what the. 'Nobody can compare' I think you will find, everyone else is better (overall) in the competition. Also, the praise for Amber (yes im mentioning it again) is absolutely over the top. It's actually hilarious. It puts me off voting for her even when she delivers amazing performances. Why do they love her so much? So ridiculous.



^ thoughts on the night. In spoiler cause i dont want to ruin it.
Flower Pot
25-04-2013
noone watching tonight? o.O

my top 2 for tonight were angie & kree, i thought candice seemed to lose her form with every song tonight and although amber sounded unusually good with her 1st song (soft ballad suited her thin voice) her weakness showed through in her 2nd song with off-key shreiking
baroquepop
25-04-2013
Very quiet this week. I'm watching now on my PVR.

Thoughts on first songs.
Angie - very good song choice. Very glamorous!
Candice - what was that? I wasn't wowed by it.
Kree - didn't like the song choice. I like her but I'm get frustrated that she never seems to move me.
Angie - is playing a smart game here. Really defining herself as an artist rather than being in a 'singing competition'.

My first song order: Angie, Amber, Candice, Kree
gcmac
26-04-2013
Angie definitely won the night for me, I don't think she was the best vocally, but she gave the most emotion and seemed the most like an artist.
Amber was great on her first song but I thought her second song was a poor choice and I thought the judges praise was very over the top, I agreed with Jimmy's comments on the performance.
This was a really poor night for Candice, she needs to live up to lovesong and neither of her song choices came close tonight.
I loved Kree at the start of top 10 but she seems to have lost her spark in the last couple of weeks. She needs to really consider her song choices carefully.
mimik1uk
26-04-2013
i seem to say this every week but I must be missing something about amber as she was distinctly average imo. can her song choices get any cornier , power of love and mcarthur park after singing without you last week. shes singing tired old songs that are so karaoke its unbelievable but keeps getting rave reviews from the judges. standing ovations for those performances , really ?

Candice vocally again is great but I just hate the songs she is singing, I can tell she has a great voice but the genre she is doing maybe just isn't my thing.

kree was boring tonight , nothing else really to say.

angie has been my favourite all along so i'm probably a bit biased but thought she blew them all away tonight. think it was keith that said a few weeks ago he judges performances based on goosebumps and she is the only one that has done that to me consistently.
gcmac
26-04-2013
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“i seem to say this every week but I must be missing something about amber as she was distinctly average imo. can her song choices get any cornier , power of love and mcarthur park after singing without you last week. shes singing tired old songs that are so karaoke its unbelievable but keeps getting rave reviews from the judges. standing ovations for those performances , really ?

Candice vocally again is great but I just hate the songs she is singing, I can tell she has a great voice but the genre she is doing maybe just isn't my thing.

kree was boring tonight , nothing else really to say.

angie has been my favourite all along so i'm probably a bit biased but thought she blew them all away tonight. think it was keith that said a few weeks ago he judges performances based on goosebumps and she is the only one that has done that to me consistently.”

I liked Amber to begin with but this week her choices were rubbish, I thought the start of the power of love was fab, but Angie definitely stole the show for me, I had liked Angie until top 10 and she started dropping down for me with a few poor song choices and I had her below Candice, Kree and Amber, but the last two weeks she's the only one who seems to have come out fighting and showing that she wants to win rather than just performing a nice song. I don't feel light Kree has shown that fight for a few weeks and I think Candice is struggling to live up to her performance 2 weeks ago.
barneyboy
26-04-2013
Amber was best (this week) Kree was the worst. The results show p*ssed me off. What a cop out.
iamstrong
26-04-2013
Result show spoilers:

Spoiler
Top 2: Angie and Kree
Bottom 2: Candice and Amber
Voted out: No one. All votes this week will be combined with next week's votes, due to the judges not using the save, therefore gaining an extra week
Dirtyhippy
26-04-2013
Amber - really great voice but awful song choice - judges over reactions mean she think's she's doing ok but she won't win. (Edit - great looking girl but no personality doesn't help)

Kree - what on earth was she thinking of doing WSOP - totally wrong song choice at this stage, didn't know her first choice but perhaps Americans do - she didn't shine last night.

Candice - does anyone know Oleta Adams? cos she sounds just like her - again - great voice but too conservative, love her jazz stylings though.

Angie - easily the most interesting singer left, boundless energy and I feel the emotion she gives - I think she will win (I said that to my wife 2 weeks ago so this isn't a recent prediction based on last night)
Scrufox86
26-04-2013
Originally Posted by gcmac:
“Angie definitely won the night for me, I don't think she was the best vocally, but she gave the most emotion and seemed the most like an artist.
Amber was great on her first song but I thought her second song was a poor choice and I thought the judges praise was very over the top, I agreed with Jimmy's comments on the performance.
This was a really poor night for Candice, she needs to live up to lovesong and neither of her song choices came close tonight.
I loved Kree at the start of top 10 but she seems to have lost her spark in the last couple of weeks. She needs to really consider her song choices carefully.”

Bit in bold - What? Angie has been the best vocalist from the start. And she definitely was the best on top 4 night.
barneyboy
26-04-2013
Originally Posted by barneyboy:
“Amber was best (this week) Kree was the worst. The results show p*ssed me off. What a cop out.”

I meant Angie was the best. Sorry guys x
Scrufox86
26-04-2013
Originally Posted by iamstrong:
“Result show spoilers:

Spoiler
Top 2: Angie and Kree
Bottom 2: Candice and Amber
Voted out: No one. All votes this week will be combined with next week's votes, due to the judges not using the save, therefore gaining an extra week
”

Spoilers just in case...

Spoiler
I've just seen this.. I suspected it would be no one going home. What I don't understand is why there is an "extra" week. When the save is used, the next week two people are supposed to go home to make up for no one going home the week before. So there shouldn't be an extra week if the save is not used as people will be eliminated as normal. That was the whole point of the save when it was first introduced. I don't get the extra week thing at all, it now seems to be the save has to be used and only one person goes home the week after the save is used. This is why the save should be scrapped. Go back to the normal voting rules.
Saturn
26-04-2013
Originally Posted by Scrufox86:
“Spoilers just in case...

Spoiler
I've just seen this.. I suspected it would be no one going home. What I don't understand is why there is an "extra" week. When the save is used, the next week two people are supposed to go home to make up for no one going home the week before. So there shouldn't be an extra week if the save is not used as people will be eliminated as normal. That was the whole point of the save when it was first introduced. I don't get the extra week thing at all, it now seems to be the save has to be used and only one person goes home the week after the save is used. This is why the save should be scrapped. Go back to the normal voting rules.
”

Spoiler
It's just very bad planning, they should have just had a top 11 or 12
JauntyMonty
26-04-2013
Originally Posted by Scrufox86:
“Spoilers just in case...

Spoiler
I've just seen this.. I suspected it would be no one going home. What I don't understand is why there is an "extra" week. When the save is used, the next week two people are supposed to go home to make up for no one going home the week before. So there shouldn't be an extra week if the save is not used as people will be eliminated as normal. That was the whole point of the save when it was first introduced. I don't get the extra week thing at all, it now seems to be the save has to be used and only one person goes home the week after the save is used. This is why the save should be scrapped. Go back to the normal voting rules.
”

Spoiler
Presumably this year they decided that when they used the save they would only have one exit the week after. The problem is they haven't used the save (though actually they effectively did this week). I think the producers of the show want Amber to win (she's good but the plaudits she's getting from the judges are way over the top). Because she's been close to going home a couple of times they've been wary of using the save for anyone else - they've been keeping the save for her.

What worries me is that last nights decision wasn't planned and only happened because Amber was bottom of the pile. Had she been safe I wonder if they would have rolled the non-elimination over into next week.


They are all excellent singers but no one shone and and the only song choices I enjoyed came from Kree. Ambers choices were horrible and she was nowhere near as good as the judges made out. Angie was good but I think the judges were OTT with the praise for her Jessie J cover. Candice, normally the best singer, had a mediocre night which her cold can't be entirely blamed for.

For me 1 Kree, 2 Angie, 3 Candice, 4 Amber
barneyboy
26-04-2013
Its really bad. I dont know how to do the spoiler thing so will try to be careful. There was a deffo girl that shouldve gone last night. You know who, I cant believe whos voting when shes getting more votes! She's good but not a worldwide superstar.
barneyboy
26-04-2013
Originally Posted by JauntyMonty:
“
Spoiler
Presumably this year they decided that when they used the save they would only have one exit the week after. The problem is they haven't used the save (though actually they effectively did this week). I think the producers of the show want Amber to win (she's good but the plaudits she's getting from the judges are way over the top). Because she's been close to going home a couple of times they've been wary of using the save for anyone else - they've been keeping the save for her.

What worries me is that last nights decision wasn't planned and only happened because Amber was bottom of the pile. Had she been safe I wonder if they would have rolled the non-elimination over into next week.


They are all excellent singers but no one shone and and the only song choices I enjoyed came from Kree. Ambers choices were horrible and she was nowhere near as good as the judges made out. Angie was good but I think the judges were OTT with the praise for her Jessie J cover. Candice, normally the best singer, had a mediocre night which her cold can't be entirely blamed for.

For me 1 Kree, 2 Angie, 3 Candice, 4 Amber”

Kree number 1? I think she's great but shes picking such crap songs and wears awful clothes.
JauntyMonty
26-04-2013
Clothes don't come into my ranking... and its not as if they have complete choice over what they get to wear anyway. I've read a number of times where someone has been given something different to wear at the last minute. Also often they don't have much choice song wise either.

I liked Krees choices this week. There was a nice contrast to her selections. WSOP is an amazing song. I didn't like her choices last week but that was last week.

Its not as if any of the others did that well with song choice this week. Angie's were ok but Candice's didn't work and Amber chose awful songs (again).
Flower Pot
26-04-2013
what a shite song! o.O
Flower Pot
26-04-2013
haha no surprises there at all!
Flower Pot
26-04-2013
Originally Posted by barneyboy:
“Its really bad. I dont know how to do the spoiler thing so will try to be careful. There was a deffo girl that shouldve gone last night. You know who, I cant believe whos voting when shes getting more votes! She's good but not a worldwide superstar.”

who ?
Sylvia
26-04-2013
Originally Posted by Flower Pot:
“noone watching tonight? o.O”

Probably plenty watching but they don't know this forum exists on DS, seeing as the powers that be have done their best to hide it.
Sylvia
26-04-2013
Anybody agree with me that Angie is the spitting image of the girl who plays Maria on Coronation Street?
Jocolah
27-04-2013
[quote=JauntyMonty;65576590]
Spoiler
Presumably this year they decided that when they used the save they would only have one exit the week after. The problem is they haven't used the save (though actually they effectively did this week). I think the producers of the show want Amber to win (she's good but the plaudits she's getting from the judges are way over the top). Because she's been close to going home a couple of times they've been wary of using the save for anyone else - they've been keeping the save for her.

What worries me is that last nights decision wasn't planned and only happened because Amber was bottom of the pile. Had she been safe I wonder if they would have rolled the non-elimination over into next week.


They are all excellent singers but no one shone and and the only song choices I enjoyed came from Kree. Ambers choices were horrible and she was nowhere near as good as the judges made out. Angie was good but I think the judges were OTT with the praise for her Jessie J cover. Candice, normally the best singer, had a mediocre night which her cold can't be entirely blamed for.

I agree, Angie's version was not a patch on the Jessie J cover. However, although not the best singer, she does give some of the best performances at times.

As for Candice - best singer of the 4 but unfortunately her song choices and performances this week have let her down and she really needs to up her game or pull something out the bag like she did several weeks ago.
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