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Old 26-04-2013, 19:43
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When I was at school, most of the computers has Windows XP installed, apart from on computer in the corner of a classroom which still had Windows 2000 installed on it.

Have you ever been anywhere before where there is on computer out of all the computers at that school or workplace which still has an old version of Windows installed on it?
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Old 26-04-2013, 19:50
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Normally if its just one its probably a server version or been dumped in the corner to act as a print server for some equally old printer with no networking capability
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Old 26-04-2013, 19:54
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In our house there's a 10 year old desktop running Windows XP which will have XP installed on it until it snuffs it. There's also a Windows 2000 box lying around which hasn't been used for several years. Some of my lecturers at university still have XP computers even though the majority are either using Macs or Windows 7. My university doesn't support Vista as they hate it
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Old 26-04-2013, 19:56
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In our house there's a 10 year old desktop running Windows XP which will have XP installed on it until it snuffs it. There's also a Windows 2000 box lying around which hasn't been used for several years. Some of my lecturers at university still have XP computers even though the majority are either using Macs or Windows 7. My university doesn't support Vista as they hate it
My local council appears to support Windows Vista, as their public computers they have in the libraries have Windows Vista installed on them!
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Old 26-04-2013, 20:00
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In most cases its simply down to cost. Licensing can be expensive and its not always the case that everything can be migrated to a newer OS.

Many larger schools are now taking up Microsoft EES agreements which would entitle them to free upgrades to the latest OS if they wanted, presuming the hardware and 3rd party software can cope of course!

Oh and schools and businesses have to pay to have their IT equipment safely disposed of. This is another reason why you may see ancient kit seemingly lieing around.
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Old 26-04-2013, 20:08
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My local council appears to support Windows Vista, as their public computers they have in the libraries have Windows Vista installed on them!
If I discovered my local council were Vista fanboys or supporters I'd move out of the area! Think what it would do for property prices and reputation You should send them this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOh6Nh8w6f8
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Old 26-04-2013, 20:35
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If I discovered my local council were Vista fanboys or supporters I'd move out of the area! Think what it would do for property prices and reputation You should send them this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOh6Nh8w6f8
just imagine if they were apple fans and slapping on an extra 500 or more a year so every member of the council can have a 27" mac/ipad3/phone5/mac book airs or pro's with and then roll it out to the staff as well...then we'd hear you scream murder when the it bill goes up from probably below 100k a year to a million or more

and that doesn't include the 25 quid a person for the wireless mouse battery re charger
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Old 26-04-2013, 20:57
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just imagine if they were apple fans and slapping on an extra 500 or more a year so every member of the council can have a 27" mac/ipad3/phone5/mac book airs or pro's with and then roll it out to the staff as well...then we'd hear you scream murder when the it bill goes up from probably below 100k a year to a million or more

and that doesn't include the 25 quid a person for the wireless mouse battery re charger
That wouldn't work either then If they have to use Windows they could at least have the decency to use Windows 7 rather than the dreaded Vista. At least they haven't upgraded to Windows 8!
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Old 26-04-2013, 21:05
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If I discovered my local council were Vista fanboys or supporters I'd move out of the area! Think what it would do for property prices and reputation You should send them this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOh6Nh8w6f8
Love it

I'd send them this as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_KrSMdxqf0
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Old 26-04-2013, 21:06
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That wouldn't work either then If they have to use Windows they could at least have the decency to use Windows 7 rather than the dreaded Vista. At least they haven't upgraded to Windows 8!
But surely you'd love the fact that you was situated in the only 100% apple council area in the country....not a single windows machine even a VM allowed...all routed through the iCloud using genuine Apple networking cables at 10/metre with everyone having shaved heads and black turtle necks....should i carry on or is that too porno for you
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Old 26-04-2013, 23:19
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But surely you'd love the fact that you was situated in the only 100% apple council area in the country....not a single windows machine even a VM allowed...all routed through the iCloud using genuine Apple networking cables at 10/metre with everyone having shaved heads and black turtle necks....should i carry on or is that too porno for you
Wherever that is I'm going to move there *dons black turtleneck*

I love that video
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Old 26-04-2013, 23:30
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Oh and schools and businesses have to pay to have their IT equipment safely disposed of. This is another reason why you may see ancient kit seemingly lieing around.
Thats how I got the one I'm using an old P4 given away to staff (my wife) about 2 years ago, upgraded the ram and still going well, fine for me.
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Old 27-04-2013, 12:18
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If the app runs on XP, then maybe judicious use of a VM might be the best idea? Means you can then hermetically seal it off from network access except through the remote desktop ports...
Or through the hypervisor?
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Old 27-04-2013, 14:16
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re old versions of Windows - I have every version of Windows from 3.11 to 8 in a VM. I have also built a few machines using early OS's and junk I have lying around. While its fun to show friends etc the old desktops and start up sounds. anything older than XP falls over if you try to surf the net. There's a upper limit on the versions of IE and Flash that each Windows will support, ditto various scripting stuff, and most websites are not backwards compatable. Also its hard to find anti virus that works on the old OS's (and drivers).

If you're lucky you might get to the Google homepage, but the next click brings the old Windows error messages, freeze ups etc. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
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Old 27-04-2013, 14:36
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just imagine if they were apple fans and slapping on an extra 500 or more a year so every member of the council can have a 27" mac/ipad3/phone5/mac book airs or pro's with and then roll it out to the staff as well...then we'd hear you scream murder when the it bill goes up from probably below 100k a year to a million or more

and that doesn't include the 25 quid a person for the wireless mouse battery re charger
Not really because she doesn't pay council tax anyway, her dad does.
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Old 29-04-2013, 08:37
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In my old workplace we had a mix of XP and 7 workstations, 2003 and 2008 servers but specifically a Server 2000 box, which was specifically used for the phone system, because that's what the phone software required.

In my current place of work, we again have XP and 7 workstations, but Server 2003 is the oldest server operating system we have, excluding a couple of Unix servers.
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Old 29-04-2013, 09:29
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At a well known financial institution we had to keep a Windows 2000 machine running especially to use with some old applications.

Many companies I work with still use XP as it is a stable product that still does the job and there is no compelling reason to upgrade even though MS support is ending next year.


One thought - If support ends that means they no longer can charge businesses for licences.
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Old 29-04-2013, 10:36
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At a well known financial institution we had to keep a Windows 2000 machine running especially to use with some old applications.

Many companies I work with still use XP as it is a stable product that still does the job and there is no compelling reason to upgrade even though MS support is ending next year.


One thought - If support ends that means they no longer can charge businesses for licences.
MS will sell you a license to run DOS 1.0 if you ask them as i can remember a guy who found an old XT machine and wanted to get it running legit found they still wanted top dollar
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Old 29-04-2013, 18:07
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One thought - If support ends that means they no longer can charge businesses for licences.
Not the best example of logic there, a licence is required to use the software - the fact it is no longer supported makes it a poor use of money, but it is still required legally.
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Old 29-04-2013, 18:45
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One thought - If support ends that means they no longer can charge businesses for licences.
Strictly speaking you haven't been able to buy an XP licence for a long time. The reason for this is that with Volume Licensing you normally purchase a licence for the latest version that is currently on sale. You can then use your downgrade rights to get XP or Vista. The same rule applies to Office for those that require older versions.

Not sure how it would work with extremely old OSes but as Maxatoria points out they can certainly facilitate if the demand is strong enough.
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