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Have you seen the US Apprentice?
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TXF0429
27-04-2013
I made this thread a while ago, but it is long since dead so I'd thought I'd revive it since I've been re-watching recently.

How many of you have watched the American Apprentice and how many of you enjoy it?

I've seen the first three seasons and I do enjoy it, but it isn't in the same league as the UK one in my opinion. Trump's firings are often random and everything is over-dramatised. In general I find the standard of candidates higher in the UK version as well.

What do you all think?
SillyBillyGoat
27-04-2013
I watch it, but I much prefer the UK version. It feels more natural. The US version is so over-the-top, full of cheesy music, Trump making constant references to "we're the number 1 show on TV", etc.

Our boardrooms are also much more entertaining imo. Alan Sugar seems harsher, which makes for good TV.
Abigail88
27-04-2013
Glad someone else has shown an interest in it! I reall enjoy it and am watching the Celebrity Apprentice USA which is currently down to its final 6.

If you think the first few series of it are dramatic, try the 6th/7th (cannot remember which one) where the losing team have to live in tents outside a mansion the winning team stays in. It's like Survivor meets the Apprentice. It almost becomes a soap opera and detracts from the business side of things. Nonetheless it is extremely entertaining and the winner was great! hat year was probably the strongest overall as well so I'd recommend it.

And some firings have been utterly atrocious, it verges on unbelievable, and Donald becomes extremely hypercritical for his reasons - basically, he has his favourites and is prepared to go back on his word to save them and fire someone else. See below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuwGS5J0frc
TXF0429
27-04-2013
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“If you think the first few series of it are dramatic, try the 6th/7th (cannot remember which one) where the losing team have to live in tents outside a mansion the winning team stays in. It's like Survivor meets the Apprentice. It almost becomes a soap opera and detracts from the business side of things. Nonetheless it is extremely entertaining and the winner was great! That year was probably the strongest overall as well so I'd recommend it.”

Oh, I've heard horror stories about Season 6, but I may well try it. Season 7 was the first celebrity one and I have actually seen that. It had a good winner.

Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“And some firings have been utterly atrocious, it verges on unbelievable, and Donald becomes extremely hypercritical for his reasons - basically, he has his favourites and is prepared to go back on his word to save them and fire someone else.”

I assume you have seen Season 3?

Season 3 spoilers below:

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One of the worst firings I have seen in any incarnation was Angie's in Week 11. She did all the work for a challenge to create a clothing line for American Eagle whilst the PM, Alex sat back and did virtually nothing and the other team member Chris (One of the most useless candidates I've ever seen incidently) spent all of the task looking for credit card he lost given to him from Trump. Angie had all this pressure and didn't perform in the pitch and was fired for it!
In Season 1, Episode 7, Tammy was fired because she said the team was duped. In Season 2, Episode 2, Bradford was fired for throwing away his immunity (referenced in the video link) and in Season 3, Episode 9, Erin was fired for winking at Trump.

None of the above examples had anything to do with the tasks!

I agree he had his favourites.
Spoiler
Nick in Season 1 and Alex and Chris in Season 3 come to mind.
_NiallDEE_
27-04-2013
I watched the 3rd Celebrity edition when it was on BBC earlier this year and absolutely loved it, so I've started watching the other celebrity series online I think as a business show and for what the show actually is, the UK apprentice does a better job, and I agree with other posters that some of Trump's firings are absolutely ridiculous (the episode where he fired T-Boz and Khloe Kardashian comes to mind ) However in terms of an entertainment show, I much prefer the US version. It has some amazing moments in terms of drama, and some of the celebrities they get are brilliant! I watched the last normal addition that was on BBC after Celebrity Apprentice 3 ended, however I didn't enjoy it as much as the celebrity versions so I don't think I'd watch another one. Celebrity Apprentice is one of my favourite shows ever though
Sherlock_Holmes
27-04-2013
For me, it is mainly a business show. So, the celebrity versions are not for me (except smaller editions like for comic relief, which doesn't take itself serious). Unlike "The Mole" which is still running in my country with (minor) celebs.

As for the American business version, series 1 and series 3 were good, while series 2 was entertaining (in a sort of uk series 4 kind of way). Do think that Sugar is better then Trump, who is a bad actor reading from cue cards.
george.millman
28-04-2013
I watched the start of the first episode, but when someone thought it would be a good idea to charge $1,000 for a glass of lemonade, I decided it wasn't for me.

I've watched a few episodes of various international editions, but the only one I've actually got quite into is The Apprentice Australia. I found that pretty enjoyable - there is only one series (not including celebrity editions) and it's all on YouTube.
TXF0429
03-05-2013
I've been looking over some of my comments in the previous thread I started and

Spoiler
For Series 2 (which I'm rewatching), I cannot believe I liked Sandy! In the early weeks all she does is scapegoat other members of the team and is in the center of the horrible group of Apex women who always scapegoat others. On a second viewing, Kevin and Andy come across really well and I don't hate Jen M as much as I remember. Kelly is competent but has a nasty streak in him, like in the clothing line task where he lectures Raj unnecessarily. I'm just at the start of mixed teams so we shall see how it goes from here!
platelet
04-05-2013
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“I've watched a few episodes of various international editions, but the only one I've actually got quite into is The Apprentice Australia. I found that pretty enjoyable - there is only one series (not including celebrity editions) and it's all on YouTube.”

I'm a sucker for them all.

The US version seems to just do celebrity shows which makes more sense to be honest. It's more like the WWE than a true reality show and the firings seem to be based on what makes the best TV rather than any skill. The whole show justs acts as advertising for Trumps cronies being a dick seems to guarantee you stay around, but as they are "celebs" I don't care.

Series 3 of the Ozzie Celeb version has just started this week. I like that for different reasons. Bouris is a series businessman, more in the mold of Ireland's Bill Curran than the buffoon Trump is and the tasks are a lot harder. It's much more like watching a regular UK version. This might be coloured by the fact that I have no idea who any of the celebs are of course
platelet
04-05-2013
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“For me, it is mainly a business show. ... Do think that Sugar is better then Trump, who is a bad actor reading from cue cards.”

I would suggest seeking out the Irish version then. non celeb and I prefer Bill Cullen to Sugar
lankyguy007
04-05-2013
Prefer the UK version generally though enjoyed Trump firing four in one go in series five.
brangdon
05-05-2013
The US version has more varied, imaginative and worthwhile tasks. It also had better task rewards and a better job for the winner at the end. More money generally.

The UK has a better "boss" in Lord Sugar; he delves deeper into what happened on tasks and doesn't just fire which ever candidate the losing team chooses to scapegoat. The editing is better; we get to see a bit more of what happened on task.

Overall I prefer the UK version.
Mr_XcX
05-05-2013
I like the Celeb US version but I think Mr Trump makes awful decisions based on ratings nearly all the time. EG if your in a feud with someone on the show your nearly in the final.
InMyArms
05-05-2013
Donald Trump is an idiot.. I don't wish to watch anything with that petulant 'man' in it. Wouldn't be surprised if he wrote with crayons. Plus his hair looks like someone threw it at him.
Davonator
05-05-2013
They compliment each other well as the US version is pure razzamatazz (in keeping with Trump's bombastic style) where as they UK is one is more 'no nonsense' (in keeping with Alan Sugar's style).

The in-show advertising is through the roof on the American version it has to be said.
TXF0429
06-05-2013
I've been shooting through Season 2 (Now at Final 6) and my opinion has changed again (HUGE Season 2 Spoilers here!):

Spoiler
Sandy does improve which is probably why I liked her. From Week 7 onwards she is probably the best female (even if most of the women in this season are useless) Jen goes from a great contestant to a hateable one in the space of one episode (Week 8) and plays a huge part in the downfall of Elizabeth (One of my personal favourites). Kevin is all right but he does make a few mistakes in Weeks 8-11 and doesn't come across particularly well in this time. Surprisingly Kelly is a lot worse that I remembered. He is a very nasty person and very condescending, particularly towards my favourite, Andy. Yeah, hes competent, but he offsets this by acting horrible most of the time. I hate Ivana, she's probably my least favourite but its probably because I haven't gotten over how useless she is for the first ten or so episodes. Andy is firmly my favourite, which will make this upcoming episode very difficult to watch! I think that he is the most competent one there, but people don't believe it simply because he's young. He deserves a place in the final in my view (Even though I know it doesn't happen ) alongside Kevin/Sandy. One can only dream.
Metal Mickey
07-05-2013
They've basically given up on non-Celebrity versions in the US because the ratings last time they tried it a few years back were so poor, and even the current celebrity version is an "All-Stars" edition featuring previous contestants, so obviously the pool of willing & available celebs must be pretty drained by now...

I do like the ridiculous OTT-ness of the US celeb version, though almost 90 minutes per episode (without ads) is far too long, but if push comes to shove, I do prefer the "naturalness" of the UK version. I do disagree that the UK contestants are better though - virtually all of the (non-celeb) US competitors had MBAs or law degrees, though I did always find it strange that all the females tended to look like supermodels, or perhaps they just all had makeovers before filming...
big brother 9
07-05-2013
im currently watching the allstars one, love us apprentice.

gary busey is a freak
Abigail88
07-05-2013
Yeah Gary is annoying and the only reason he stayed in as long as he did was because Trump had to keep the last remaining ridiculous character in after Omarosa got fired.

Lisa Rinna to win
Purple.
07-05-2013
I prefer Donald Trump to Lord Sugar, but his children are irritating.
Sherlock_Holmes
07-05-2013
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“I've been shooting through Season 2 (Now at Final 6) and my opinion has changed again (HUGE Season 2 Spoilers here!):

Spoiler
Sandy does improve which is probably why I liked her. From Week 7 onwards she is probably the best female (even if most of the women in this season are useless) Jen goes from a great contestant to a hateable one in the space of one episode (Week 8) and plays a huge part in the downfall of Elizabeth (One of my personal favourites). Kevin is all right but he does make a few mistakes in Weeks 8-11 and doesn't come across particularly well in this time. Surprisingly Kelly is a lot worse that I remembered. He is a very nasty person and very condescending, particularly towards my favourite, Andy. Yeah, hes competent, but he offsets this by acting horrible most of the time. I hate Ivana, she's probably my least favourite but its probably because I haven't gotten over how useless she is for the first ten or so episodes. Andy is firmly my favourite, which will make this upcoming episode very difficult to watch! I think that he is the most competent one there, but people don't believe it simply because he's young. He deserves a place in the final in my view (Even though I know it doesn't happen ) alongside Kevin/Sandy. One can only dream.
”

Actually, I thought that Ivana and Maria were hilarious (for all the wrong reasons)...........that stripping scene

Also, how scary is this:


http://www.bravotv.com/media/imageca...et-cast-02.jpg

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/528xn/p0182t82.jpg


And matching personalities also
sammy60
07-05-2013
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“Donald Trump is an idiot.. I don't wish to watch anything with that petulant 'man' in it. Wouldn't be surprised if he wrote with crayons. Plus his hair looks like someone threw it at him.”

Ah but a billionaire idiot.
tartan18
08-05-2013
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“Yeah Gary is annoying and the only reason he stayed in as long as he did was because Trump had to keep the last remaining ridiculous character in after Omarosa got fired.

Lisa Rinna to win”

I'd quite like Penn to win.
Gary Busey - absolutely crazy !
neutralned
10-05-2013
I've only seen little bits of the US one, but it has always seemed a far better show. I was watching the final four on one particular series recently - came down to an old guy who looked a bit like Meat Loaf v a young guy who looked like Matthew McConnaughey - and the contestants were really high quality, except one weirdo. Also the tasks are so much better, and the winning PM of each task got to meet with the CEO of another company, which is an amazing networking opportunity, given that 14 of the 15 don't get 'the' job.

On the flipside, Trump having his kids as his advisers shows how great Margaret and Nick were!
neutralned
10-05-2013
And speaking of the US Apprentice did anyone ever see some of this show... it was ace!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Big_Fat_Obnoxious_Boss
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