All they do is banter with little 1 liners at each other. Moffat really needs to sort his scripts out it's too silly to take serious.
Why doesn't The Doctor and Clara talk properly?
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Originally Posted by Scorpio2:
“All they do is banter with little 1 liners at each other. Moffat really needs to sort his scripts out it's too silly to take serious.”
“All they do is banter with little 1 liners at each other. Moffat really needs to sort his scripts out it's too silly to take serious.”
I agree, makes her sound really wooden
I had high hopes for Clara - the asylum and snowmen episodes showed her talents as a good actress and potential for a great character but since she's become the steady companion, she does nothing except wander around, scream and look generally quizzical.
very one dimensional - no dialogue between them or spark at all. don't get it...
very one dimensional - no dialogue between them or spark at all. don't get it...
Just to offer some balance to the argument.
I have found her relationship with the Doctor very fascinating, and the part near the end where they hugged was very touching.
Much different to the companions who take to the whole time travelling and being in danger like it's nothing new is refreshing.
More of the same please.
I have found her relationship with the Doctor very fascinating, and the part near the end where they hugged was very touching.
Much different to the companions who take to the whole time travelling and being in danger like it's nothing new is refreshing.
More of the same please.
The writing hasn't been great for Clara. She doesn't seem to have much to do. Shame that the latest episode reset her character development.
Still, I like her character and Jenna-Louise Coleman is a good actress so she can make it work (if she has the right material). I'm staying hopeful.
Still, I like her character and Jenna-Louise Coleman is a good actress so she can make it work (if she has the right material). I'm staying hopeful.
Originally Posted by snopaelic:
“It is stopping a proper relationship forming and getting on my nerves.”
“It is stopping a proper relationship forming and getting on my nerves.”
Yep, exactly. We're supposed to believe the Doctor really cares about Clara, he keeps giving her doe eyes and cupping her face in his hands, yet all we have to go on conversation-wise is a series of one-liners that just don't ring true. Jenna's lines, especially, feel increasingly false and forced. It's really irritating.
Originally Posted by BlueZane00:
“The writing hasn't been great for Clara. She doesn't seem to have much to do. Shame that the latest episode reset her character development.
Still, I like her character and Jenna-Louise Coleman is a good actress so she can make it work (if she has the right material). I'm staying hopeful.”
“The writing hasn't been great for Clara. She doesn't seem to have much to do. Shame that the latest episode reset her character development.
Still, I like her character and Jenna-Louise Coleman is a good actress so she can make it work (if she has the right material). I'm staying hopeful.”
BIB - I agree with that. It was great to see him tell her but then she forgot everything. Then again, one of the brothers sort of remembered something so her memories might bleed through.
I certainly don't think they just throw one liners at each other but there hasn't been quite enough dramatic interaction like heart to hearts yet. It really is a shame she doesn't remember the events of JTTCOTT, by what the Doctor said I assume he gained the memories.
Originally Posted by Scorpio2:
“All they do is banter with little 1 liners at each other. Moffat really needs to sort his scripts out it's too silly to take serious.”
“All they do is banter with little 1 liners at each other. Moffat really needs to sort his scripts out it's too silly to take serious.”
Well It seems like as of now they both don't trust each other, Clara is there for the once in a lifetime experience, and the Doctor wants her there because the mystery around her.
Originally Posted by Cel1084:
“Well It seems like as of now they both don't trust each other, Clara is there for the once in a lifetime experience, and the Doctor wants her there because the mystery around her.”
“Well It seems like as of now they both don't trust each other, Clara is there for the once in a lifetime experience, and the Doctor wants her there because the mystery around her.”
Its basically that, even the TARDIS takes a dislike to Clara. The Doctor has only taken her on board because she is deemed impossible and he still can't figure it out. Much like with Amy, the crack and the room that wasn't suppose to be. The Doctor only ever goes back if there is a mystery attached,
Originally Posted by tomwozhere:
“BIB - I agree with that. It was great to see him tell her but then she forgot everything. Then again, one of the brothers sort of remembered something so her memories might bleed through.
I certainly don't think they just throw one liners at each other but there hasn't been quite enough dramatic interaction like heart to hearts yet. It really is a shame she doesn't remember the events of JTTCOTT, by what the Doctor said I assume he gained the memories.”
“BIB - I agree with that. It was great to see him tell her but then she forgot everything. Then again, one of the brothers sort of remembered something so her memories might bleed through.
I certainly don't think they just throw one liners at each other but there hasn't been quite enough dramatic interaction like heart to hearts yet. It really is a shame she doesn't remember the events of JTTCOTT, by what the Doctor said I assume he gained the memories.”
I have a feeling that will be relevant later on, otherwise why put in that scene with the brother remembering?
Clara's growing on me, she's certainly an intriguing character and I'm glad she's complicated, not just two-dimensional. Yes, there haven't been enough long dialogue scenes between her and the Doctor, but there's a reason for that - neither of them entirely trusts the other yet, it's not like Amy's unwavering faith in the Doctor that made her open with him and him warm to her. He doesn't understand Clara, so that makes him wary, and less inclined to have long heart-to-hearts with her. She's a very different person to Amy.
To be honest, the way they're interacting at the minute makes perfect sense to me, it'd be strange if they were very open and honest with each other. This last episode was great for Clara characterisation, and I don't think it'll be entirely lost in the reset...
Originally Posted by Scorpio2:
“All they do is banter with little 1 liners at each other. Moffat really needs to sort his scripts out it's too silly to take serious.”
“All they do is banter with little 1 liners at each other. Moffat really needs to sort his scripts out it's too silly to take serious.”
Completely agree. It's really cringeworthy and it makes the programme seem like some kind of sitcom, sketch show or spoof.
Clara plays her cards close to her chest, and so does the Doctor. Clara doesn't have the unwavering faith that Amy had, so their relationship is more like a chess game or a joust at the moment.
Originally Posted by Scorpio2:
“All they do is banter with little 1 liners at each other. Moffat really needs to sort his scripts out it's too silly to take serious.”
“All they do is banter with little 1 liners at each other. Moffat really needs to sort his scripts out it's too silly to take serious.”
How exactly is that Moffat's fault? He has written her in 3 of the 7 episodes she has appeared in. He sets her up he doesn't tell Mark Gatiss/Steve Thmpson etc etc how she should talk.
Originally Posted by Deserana 12:
“How exactly is that Moffat's fault? He has written her in 3 of the 7 episodes she has appeared in. He sets her up he doesn't tell Mark Gatiss/Steve Thmpson etc etc how she should talk.”
“How exactly is that Moffat's fault? He has written her in 3 of the 7 episodes she has appeared in. He sets her up he doesn't tell Mark Gatiss/Steve Thmpson etc etc how she should talk.”
Well, if I were entirely in agreement with the complaint (which I'm not) I would point out that the head writer is responsible for tweaking the dialogue if necessary to keep the characters consistent.
I agree, it's just sassy, sit-com speak which undercuts all the drama.
It's constant throughout this series and has got worse and worse, along with the Doctor acting like a completely childish prat.
It's constant throughout this series and has got worse and worse, along with the Doctor acting like a completely childish prat.
Originally Posted by smokencheese:
“I agree, it's just sassy, sit-com speak which undercuts all the drama.”
“I agree, it's just sassy, sit-com speak which undercuts all the drama.”
That is 90% of all Amy and Rory episodes so I don't see why people are suddenly bringing this up. At least I find Clara more believable.
The thing that bothers with me Clara is she doesn't seemed too fussed like time travel and space isn't a new concept for her.
Originally Posted by JustArun:
“The thing that bothers with me Clara is she doesn't seemed too fussed like time travel and space isn't a new concept for her.”
“The thing that bothers with me Clara is she doesn't seemed too fussed like time travel and space isn't a new concept for her.”
Exactly. There'd better be a decent payoff with her explanation that covers all things Clara.
Originally Posted by Silent Timelord:
“I was praying it was a joke...”
“I was praying it was a joke...”
I thought it must've been. Either that or I expected WAY more gentle ribbing. Maybe I'm just a mean old grammar nazi!
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