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Who wrote the history of the Time War?
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Dave-H
28-04-2013
Interesting replies all.
I think it's reasonable to assume that the TARDIS would have kept a complete record of the events of the Time War, whether the Doctor wanted her to or not.
She may well have produced the physical book just for Clara's benefit, presenting it to her in a form that she would immediately recognise and be curious about.
The TARDIS also I suspect wanted Clara to see the Doctor's name in the book, and it would have been there on whatever page Clara turned to!
It was presented in a form that she would understand by design, so no need for any translation.
CoalHillJanitor
28-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dave-H:
“Interesting replies all.
I think it's reasonable to assume that the TARDIS would have kept a complete record of the events of the Time War, whether the Doctor wanted her to or not.
She may well have produced the physical book just for Clara's benefit, presenting it to her in a form that she would immediately recognise and be curious about.
The TARDIS also I suspect wanted Clara to see the Doctor's name in the book, and it would have been there on whatever page Clara turned to!
It was presented in a form that she would understand by design, so no need for any translation.
”

So the TARDIS might actually be trying to warn Clara away from the Doctor for some reason, not because it doesn't like her. That would agree with what the psychic said. And the TARDIS knows the future.

(And just to be pedantic, I'll point out that Clara saw the Doctor's name on the second page she turned to.)
Dave-H
28-04-2013
Originally Posted by CoalHillJanitor:
“....just to be pedantic, I'll point out that Clara saw the Doctor's name on the second page she turned to. ”

Oops, so she did!
Si_Crewe
28-04-2013
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“I think the idea that the TARDIS itself produced it is quite satisfactory, to be honest. And of course we may find out more about this in future episodes.”

That's my take on it too.

I don't think there was any real significance to Clara reading the book either.
I got the impression it was just a case of "Wow! He's been through a lot. No wonder he's a bit odd".

TBH, it kind of irritates me the way we seem to expect everything to have some deep significance and just as much that things often do.

I wish the current team would realise that it is okay to just produce an entertaining story without turning everything into some kind of cryptic bloody puzzle.
Corwin
28-04-2013
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“That's my take on it too.

I don't think there was any real significance to Clara reading the book either.
I got the impression it was just a case of "Wow! He's been through a lot. No wonder he's a bit odd".
”


She read his name, pretty sure that will be significant given the First question and the Finale Title.
Revenga
28-04-2013
"There's only one reason I would ever tell anyone my name. There's only one time I could."

But you might have read it in a book.
neutralned
28-04-2013
I ALWAYS stop for a read in the library whilst being chased by a frightening monster. It can't possibly see me whilst I am looking at this book.
Si_Crewe
28-04-2013
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“She read his name, pretty sure that will be significant given the First question and the Finale Title.”

Must admit, I only watched it late last night, on iPlayer, and I didn't even notice anything about her reading his name.

In general, though, it just bugs me a bit the way they seem to feel compelled to give everything some hidden significance.

I've been rewatching the older episodes recently and I find the Ecclestone episodes, particularly, to be a breath of fresh air.
They were all simple, interesting, stories in their own right and although the whole "bad wolf" thing kept cropping up, it didn't ever detract from or confuse the story at hand.

Just seems like, over the last couple of years, they've been trying too hard to be inscrutable. The whole "doctor's death" thing was the epitome of convoluted nonsense IMO.

Course, that's just my personal opinion and I realise others might prefer this type of story-telling.
DavetheScot
28-04-2013
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“Must admit, I only watched it late last night, on iPlayer, and I didn't even notice anything about her reading his name.

In general, though, it just bugs me a bit the way they seem to feel compelled to give everything some hidden significance.

I've been rewatching the older episodes recently and I find the Ecclestone episodes, particularly, to be a breath of fresh air.
They were all simple, interesting, stories in their own right and although the whole "bad wolf" thing kept cropping up, it didn't ever detract from or confuse the story at hand.

Just seems like, over the last couple of years, they've been trying too hard to be inscrutable. The whole "doctor's death" thing was the epitome of convoluted nonsense IMO.

Course, that's just my personal opinion and I realise others might prefer this type of story-telling. ”

I'm inclined to agree, though this series is much less arc-dominated than series 6.
AdelaideGirl
29-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dave-H:
“Interesting replies all.
I think it's reasonable to assume that the TARDIS would have kept a complete record of the events of the Time War, whether the Doctor wanted her to or not.
She may well have produced the physical book just for Clara's benefit, presenting it to her in a form that she would immediately recognise and be curious about.
The TARDIS also I suspect wanted Clara to see the Doctor's name in the book, and it would have been there on whatever page Clara turned to!
It was presented in a form that she would understand by design, so no need for any translation.
”

This was my interpretation. I also think the TARDIS deliberately spilled those words on Clara. At some point this is going to be important for good or bad. Possibly with Clara saying the Doctor's name to rescue him but at the same time unlocking the time war.
SuperDude95
29-04-2013
I wrote it and sold it to The Doctor for £50
Dave-H
29-04-2013
Originally Posted by SuperDude95:
“I wrote it and sold it to The Doctor for £50”

Did you sign away the film rights as well?
Tyjet
29-04-2013
Someone suggested AGES ago that his name may be the key to the time lock. So maybe the time war is unsealed and concludes, someone writes a book detailing the history, including the Doctor's name and it's purpose. And the book was one of the things which leaked through the little crack in time.
SuperDude95
29-04-2013
Originally Posted by Dave-H:
“Did you sign away the film rights as well?
”

Yes it was a bargain
TEDR
29-04-2013
There are lots of cultures that are aware of the time war and could therefore have written histories of it — e.g. going right the way back to 2005's The End of the World, Jabe-the-tree-lady-from-Hollyoaks's recognises the Doctor as the last Time Lord without needing to be told of the war; her lot are obviously aware that something has gone on.

A Sontaran in the Tennant two parter also states upset that the Sontarans were not allowed to take part in the Time War, so presumably they had quite a lot of the details too.
DavetheScot
29-04-2013
Originally Posted by Tyjet:
“Someone suggested AGES ago that his name may be the key to the time lock. So maybe the time war is unsealed and concludes, someone writes a book detailing the history, including the Doctor's name and it's purpose. And the book was one of the things which leaked through the little crack in time.”

I hadn't thought of that! Yes, the book could have been something the Doctor will have in the future that leaked through.
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