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Old 01-05-2013, 15:50
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If Clara believes she is an ordinary girl then why was she in a graveyard hanging round her own gravestone? I was confused at that bit.

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Oh and here's who I think Clara is btw -

I think Clara is a trap which will lead the Doctor to somewhere which we will find in the finale - maybe the fields of Trenzivor or whatever it is? Anyway, I believe that Clara doesn't know she's a trap but she is.

Similar to Ganger Amy.
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Old 01-05-2013, 15:53
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That was her mother's gravestone not hers. (If you mean the one in Rings of Akhaten)
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Old 01-05-2013, 16:10
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That was her mother's gravestone not hers. (If you mean the one in Rings of Akhaten)
I have a feeling the OP meant the gravestone that Clara was walking past at the end of the Snowman...
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Old 01-05-2013, 16:18
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Oh, I forgot about that scene.

Well, we never see whether she even noticed the name of the gravestone, did we? And even if she did, she might just think that it's someone with a similar name to her.

And even though she might be a normal girl, she is somewhoe connected to Victorian Clara and Oswin, so some force might have been drawing her to that apticular grave.

But it's not like we saw her go there on purpose, the way I understood it she and her friend were going somewhere and she went through the graveyard as shortcut.
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Old 01-05-2013, 16:47
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It could also be possible that her parents lived near that graveyard, and when they were expecting their daughter noticed a gravestone with the same last name as theirs. They liked the first name on the stone, thought it went well with their surname, and so named their daughter after the dead woman.

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Old 01-05-2013, 16:50
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Or Clara is unwittingly drawn there for timey wimey reasons after whatever happens in the finale splits her.
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Old 01-05-2013, 18:42
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Remember the ages missing in her book!
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Old 01-05-2013, 19:51
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Remember the ages missing in her book!
They were the ages she was when her mum died and then when Artie and Angie's mum died.
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Old 01-05-2013, 20:04
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But where was she?
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Old 01-05-2013, 20:08
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I like Clara a lot now. I didn't at first. I thought she was a bit common, and also a bit bossy, but I like her.

In Journey To The Centre of the Tardis, she picked up a book about the Time War. I was hoping she was going to start reading some bits out aloud, but it was not to be.

I still think that Clara is the 12th Doctor, that's used the Chamelion Arch to make her think that she's human, and then gone back in time to 2013. She then made a new life for herself, made friends and so on. Not long after that, the Doctor saw her again, for the third time.

If she is the 12th Doc, then she would've had a companion to take her back to now. Either that, or she set the controls for 2013 before becoming human.
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Old 01-05-2013, 20:14
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I like Clara a lot now. I didn't at first. I thought she was a bit common, and also a bit bossy, but I like her.

In Journey To The Centre of the Tardis, she picked up a book about the Time War. I was hoping she was going to start reading some bits out aloud, but it was not to be.

I still think that Clara is the 12th Doctor, that's used the Chamelion Arch to make her think that she's human, and then gone back in time to 2013. She then made a new life for herself, made friends and so on. Not long after that, the Doctor saw her again, for the third time.
So how do you explain the fact that we have seen both Clara's parents (and how they fell in love) as well as young Clara (both in the prequel to Bells and in Rings)?
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Old 01-05-2013, 20:17
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So how do you explain the fact that we have seen both Clara's parents (and how they fell in love) as well as young Clara (both in the prequel to Bells and in Rings)?
Maybe that was in a parallel universe, like the one Rose is in with the human version of the Tennant Doctor.

Or this whole thing has something to do with the Trickster from SJA. Him messing with time, and so on.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uiRi-iHWGH...SJA+Banner.png
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Old 01-05-2013, 20:30
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It would be such a shock to viewers if, during the 50th anniversary special, Rose falls asleep, wakes up on the day that she meets the 9th Doctor, and she says 'I've just had the strangest dream. That I've been travelling with a mysterious man in a blue box.'

Everything up to now, would not have happened basically, or would have been undone by Rose.

That is one idea that could happen later this year.

It would of course have to happen again, so we have Matt Smith's Doctor for the Christmas one.
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Old 01-05-2013, 20:38
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But where was she?
Busy mourning her mum/looking after Artie and Angie? I suspect they were the two years she didn't even think about travelling in.
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Old 01-05-2013, 20:57
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Maybe that was in a parallel universe, like the one Rose is in with the human version of the Tennant Doctor.

Or this whole thing has something to do with the Trickster from SJA. Him messing with time, and so on.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uiRi-iHWGH...SJA+Banner.png
Can't really comment on the Trickster stuff as I haven't seen SJA. Though considering that SJA was RTD's show, I doubt a monster from there would appear on Who at this point of time.

As for the parallel universe stuff:

1. First of all the Doctor would surely realise that he's travelled into a parallel universe and there was absolutely no indication that he has in either scene where he met young Clara.

2. Travelling between parallel universes (despite the fact that it has been done on Who before) is both a)close to impossible/extremely hard. Ten had to burn up a sun just to speak to Rose for a little bit back in Doomsday. and b) extremyl dangerous, probably even more so when the Doctor is involved. So he wouldn't risk trying travelling between parallel universes until he had a serious reason for it (such as the universe being in danger).
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:08
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It could also be possible that her parents lived near that graveyard, and when they were expecting their daughter noticed a gravestone with the same last name as theirs. They liked the first name on the stone, thought it went well with their surname, and so named their daughter after the dead woman.

Serious or not, I like this.
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