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Old 05-05-2013, 16:42
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The fact it provides the level of user experience that makes it competitive with the iPad and Nexus is a real achievement by Samsung.
The fact it has iTunes on it ruins the user experience for me!
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Old 05-05-2013, 19:41
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I'm sure many actually enjoy the iTunes, IOS maps and the selected user experience but Apple still have their work cut out to improve on it.

That list of work rounds gets ever bigger.
You don't need iTunes to use an iPad so I'm not sure how that's relevant to the user experience. It would be like complaining about the Kindle experience because you choose to use Calibre to manage it. However iTunes isn't as bad as many people like to make out. The main issue with it is on Windows where its a bit bloated which can see it be sluggish without a good CPU and plenty of RAM.

The software itself isn't bad and there are major benefits to using it (or any catalogue based syncing program) over a drag and drop system. Admittedly there are also times when you want to sync a single item and drag and dropping would be so much easier but its horses for courses.

The Maps app was a fiasco but its an App not an integral part of the system. There are perhaps some Apps which may be but an app that for a long time they outsourced isn't really one of them imho. I do also suspect it wasn't supposed to launch when it did, it seems rushed so I'm guessing they expected Googke to renew the deal for another year but talks broke down.

Certainly the map app doesn't impact the core operation of the iPad which does work smoothly and in an intuitive manner,

The fact it has iTunes on it ruins the user experience for me!
What exactly is wrong with iTunes on the iPad/iPhone? I can understand people hating iTunes on Windows because its somewhat slow and bloated (its a million times better on a mac mind you) but iTunes on iOS is nothing more than an App Store. An App Store that I personally think is better designed than the the Google Play one currently is
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Old 05-05-2013, 22:53
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Certainly the map app doesn't impact the core operation of the iPad which does work smoothly and in an intuitive manner,
...but iTunes on iOS is nothing more than an App Store. An App Store that I personally think is better designed than the the Google Play one currently is
I though iTunes was needed for copy and paste like function.

BTW - I consider core operation to be close to zero.
A device is like a blank canvass with apps simply making the whole.
Integration of the apps obviously is wider on Android, often with the security risk of what you are personally allowing.
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:52
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I though iTunes was needed for copy and paste like function.

BTW - I consider core operation to be close to zero.
A device is like a blank canvass with apps simply making the whole.
Integration of the apps obviously is wider on Android, often with the security risk of what you are personally allowing.
As he said, iTunes on iOS is simply the store portion.
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:57
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You don't need iTunes to use an iPad so I'm not sure how that's relevant to the user experience. It would be like complaining about the Kindle experience because you choose to use Calibre to manage it. However iTunes isn't as bad as many people like to make out. The main issue with it is on Windows where its a bit bloated which can see it be sluggish without a good CPU and plenty of RAM.

The software itself isn't bad and there are major benefits to using it (or any catalogue based syncing program) over a drag and drop system. Admittedly there are also times when you want to sync a single item and drag and dropping would be so much easier but its horses for courses.

The Maps app was a fiasco but its an App not an integral part of the system. There are perhaps some Apps which may be but an app that for a long time they outsourced isn't really one of them imho. I do also suspect it wasn't supposed to launch when it did, it seems rushed so I'm guessing they expected Googke to renew the deal for another year but talks broke down.

Certainly the map app doesn't impact the core operation of the iPad which does work smoothly and in an intuitive manner,



What exactly is wrong with iTunes on the iPad/iPhone? I can understand people hating iTunes on Windows because its somewhat slow and bloated (its a million times better on a mac mind you) but iTunes on iOS is nothing more than an App Store. An App Store that I personally think is better designed than the the Google Play one currently is
Apple's Maps app has come along quite well since the introduction. I use it all the time on my iPad 4, including turn by turn navigation, and I haven't had any issues with accuracy. The only thing it doesn't have is a Streetview function.

I don't see any significant difference between iTunes on Windows or Mac. Most people that complain about iTunes are either Apple haters to begin with or simply want it to be easier to illegally share music with friends.
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:58
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The fact it has iTunes on it ruins the user experience for me!
iTunes for iOS is just the store so how exactly does that ruin "the user experience" for you?
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:07
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Who the OP or DS tech news? Calling people a hater is a bit immature and I don't think the mods here approve. You might want to edit if you can!
Actually, it was a question.

And there is nothing wrong with calling someone a hater of a company when they make it very clear through their comments that they in fact do hate a particular company.
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:14
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Using them to read books and play games is still using them! I don't think there are 'proper' uses for a tablet. If Apple fans don't approve of how people are using them and that it somehow makes it less of a tablet, that's up to them.

Anyway current figures say iOS 52% Android 43% BlackBerry 2% for web traffic using mobile devices.
Why are you quoting "proper" when referring to my comments about how Android tablets are likely being used? I never said or suggested what is proper use. I simply said they are obviously not being used no where near as much as the iPad for Internet use.

The "figures" I was referring to were ********tablet traffic******* and 90% of that comes from the iPad. Once again, tablet traffic.
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Old 06-05-2013, 13:43
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iTunes for iOS is just the store so how exactly does that ruin "the user experience" for you?
Because its the only place to get apps from and the new store on iOS is a right clunky mess and its only a webiste, yet they still made a mess of it. A right jerky stuttery mess on my iPhone.
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Old 06-05-2013, 17:13
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Why are you quoting "proper" when referring to my comments about how Android tablets are likely being used? I never said or suggested what is proper use. I simply said they are obviously not being used no where near as much as the iPad for Internet use.

The "figures" I was referring to were ablet traffic******* and ********90% of that comes from the iPad. Once again, tablet traffic.
It a grammar thing. I used the quotation marks to express my irony. It wasn't being used to directly quote you as you didn't say it.

You seem very angry about something what with your "hater" and all those "**********" comments ( quoting you this time). So I'll just bow out from other interaction with you.
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Old 06-05-2013, 19:35
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Because its the only place to get apps from and the new store on iOS is a right clunky mess and its only a webiste, yet they still made a mess of it. A right jerky stuttery mess on my iPhone.
Are you now talking about ITunes or the App Store?
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Old 06-05-2013, 19:48
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Are you now talking about ITunes or the App Store?
They're both a bit bad for that since the update.

I don't find it stuttery on my iPhone 5, but sometimes the thumbnails take ages to load. It looks and works a lot better though, performance issues aside.
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Old 06-05-2013, 19:54
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They're both a bit bad for that since the update.

I don't find it stuttery on my iPhone 5, but sometimes the thumbnails take ages to load. It looks and works a lot better though, performance issues aside.
I know. I use the AppStore and agree it is a slower that it use to be. It still doesn't take as long as searching multiple stores which some on here were advocating

It wasn't clear to me as were discussing iTunes and then suddenly apps were brought up.
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Old 06-05-2013, 20:10
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They're both a bit bad for that since the update.

I don't find it stuttery on my iPhone 5, but sometimes the thumbnails take ages to load. It looks and works a lot better though, performance issues aside.
It's not stuttery on my ipad mini or ipod touch and they only use the A5 chip. It's smooth and zippy. Prehaps it doesn't work so well on the iphone 4?
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Old 06-05-2013, 21:16
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I know. I use the AppStore and agree it is a slower that it use to be. It still doesn't take as long as searching multiple stores which some on here were advocating

It wasn't clear to me as were discussing iTunes and then suddenly apps were brought up.
You dont have to check all stores every day! A usable fluid store makes it a lot easier to find something than the jerky crap iOS store mind. I just couldn't use it in the last days of my iPhone 4.

iTunes/AppStore? Aren't they the same on iOS? Or are they different now?
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Old 06-05-2013, 21:19
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You dont have to check all stores every day! A usable fluid store makes it a lot easier to find something than the jerky crap iOS store mind. I just couldn't use it in the last days of my iPhone 4.

iTunes/AppStore? Aren't they the same on iOS? Or are they different now?
They have never been the same on the device. You say you own one so I'm surprised you don't know that.

And as for 'jerky crap', that isn't the store I use. It is a little slower but that is about it.
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Old 06-05-2013, 21:25
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I find almost every time I connect kids ipods up to pc and iTunes, that iTunes has an update.....frustrating
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Old 06-05-2013, 21:28
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I find almost every time I connect kids ipods up to pc and iTunes, that iTunes has an update.....frustrating
Is this using Windows? iTunes 11 was releasd in November 2012. There was an update in December, and another one in February. There have been no updates since then.
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Old 06-05-2013, 22:08
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They have never been the same on the device. You say you own one so I'm surprised you don't know that.

And as for 'jerky crap', that isn't the store I use. It is a little slower but that is about it.
Just the AppStore then, i've never use iTunes on my iPhone obviously. I dont buy music.

It was jerky crap when they "upgraded" the appstore on iphone 4, and it was only a webpage!
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Old 06-05-2013, 22:15
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Just the AppStore then, i've never use iTunes on my iPhone obviously. I dont buy music.

It was jerky crap when they "upgraded" the appstore on iphone 4, and it was only a webpage!
Yeah, it must just run badly on the 4. I've just used it for a few minutes on my 5 and it's completely smooth, not jerky in the slightest. As I said before though, it does take too long for the images to load though.
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:04
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Just the AppStore then, i've never use iTunes on my iPhone obviously. I dont buy music.

It was jerky crap when they "upgraded" the appstore on iphone 4, and it was only a webpage!
How was iTunes "only a web page??"
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:05
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I find almost every time I connect kids ipods up to pc and iTunes, that iTunes has an update.....frustrating
Are you being forced to update?
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:07
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It a grammar thing. I used the quotation marks to express my irony. It wasn't being used to directly quote you as you didn't say it.

You seem very angry about something what with your "hater" and all those "**********" comments ( quoting you this time). So I'll just bow out from other interaction with you.
Typing ******** is indicative of someone being angry?

If people would read more carefully such emphasis on words wouldn't be used.
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:56
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Just the AppStore then, i've never use iTunes on my iPhone obviously. I dont buy music.

It was jerky crap when they "upgraded" the appstore on iphone 4, and it was only a webpage!
I don't know what you mean by its only a web page. It is an app
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:29
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Are you being forced to update?
Pretty sure it was mandatory but could be wrong. It has probably calmed with the current itunes version, but did feel like I was updating constantly before.
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