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The Apprentice Series 9 Premiere - 'Container/Beer' 7th, 8th May - 9pm, BBC One
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Dix
08-05-2013
Product design should be a shambles too, complete with Alice In Wonderland small door. lol

Last night was a funnier show, but we can't have everything can we.


see you all next time. xxx
mazzy50
08-05-2013
See you next week. Looks like another good episode.
thenetworkbabe
08-05-2013
Originally Posted by Dix:
“Audience Hired for Tim....nice

What's that Dara just gave him. On close-up a tiger onesie..sweet. ”

Tim can't stay, though. Francesca didn't get anything wrong that all the people at the brewery didn't also get wrong, and Tim didn't get it right himself. Tim didn't send the obvious person to get it right there, to do it, either. He might have survived if he had brought someone who would argue with Rebecca back with her - they might have annoyed Lord sugar enough - but Lord Sugar wouldn't fire her when she had sold most. He's doomed.
coughthecat
08-05-2013
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Most of the population probably can't work out ratios and apply them to different scales of quantities and get the decimal points in the right place. . Doctors get it wrong, and they didn't use the one of those they had who is trained to do it.

The Kent Beer festival mistake seems inevitable if they don't have enough information about whats actually there. The choice of location seems randomly succesful - although the southbank obviously has most people.

The other boys team made far more , dumber, mistakes. We just still don't know what decision the boys got right. They couldn't sell at their higher price, they sold kegs at lower prices, and they ended up selling pints at low prices. The girls lost money on failed production, but they can't have sold all they had anyway to lose?”

Most of the population don't claim to be business entrepreneurs!

It's a simple case of multiplication.

x ml in the sample bottle they prepared
y bottles in a cask.
Amount to add to a cask = xy ml
Dix
08-05-2013
Originally Posted by iamsofired:
“Oh they noticed my fools and horses comparison ”

Well I wish they'd notice that we need names on screen. , but as you've been noticed, then maybe you can ask for names on screen for us, please and thanks
Dix
08-05-2013
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Tim can't stay, though. Francesca didn't get anything wrong that all the people at the brewery didn't also get wrong, and Tim didn't get it right himself. Tim didn't send the obvious person to get it right there, to do it, either. He might have survived if he had brought someone who would argue with Rebecca back with her - they might have annoyed Lord sugar enough - but Lord Sugar wouldn't fire her when she had sold most. He's doomed.”

But I don't think it matters that much, as Tim won in his own way, through getting noticed on telly, so his brewery business should do well, given enough time, and being a nice person goes a long way, but I don't reckon Tim will be a push-over either, as the show helped him to grow.

The girls are a whole new ball game, and don't rate their chances that much, and showing the viewing public their nasty side isn't doing them any favours in the long term. It doesn't matter to us here, but in the real world it matters a lot.

cheers, have a glass of good quality wine instead.
CitizenofPhobos
08-05-2013
..Question so far, does anybody care or even bother talking about the Asian guy?
priscilla
08-05-2013
Wished LS hadn't fired Tim, if he only he hadn't let them walk all over him. He so sweet and cute.
priscilla
08-05-2013
Originally Posted by CitizenofPhobos:
“..Question so far, does anybody care or even bother talking about the Asian guy?”

So far he seems good.
viewaskew
08-05-2013
Wow...this years crop are the WORST yet by far! If they had a brain-cell between them they'd be dangerous...albeit it would consider itself the best brain-cell in the world; a couragous leader of brain-cells; master negotiator, cunning strategist and amazing sales-cell...and what would it die of...?

Ego-overload!
Dix
08-05-2013
Originally Posted by CitizenofPhobos:
“..Question so far, does anybody care or even bother talking about the Asian guy?”

I take it you mean Zee, who is seen and heard quite a lot on screen, and who won't take no for an answer, which could be to his credit, but it seems many prefer the awful girls who should be booted asap.

Maybe we'll get to know Zee a lot more as the weeks go by.
Agent F
08-05-2013
Bit of a shame that one of the only likeable candidates this year was fired in Week 2. Poor Tim. Farewell, we hardly knew ye!
slouchingthatch
09-05-2013
Tim was nice but utterly ineffectual. I'd still fire Luisa in a heartbeat 100 times before I fired him, though.

In a rare moment of seriousness in my episode review (link below), I've tried to explain why this type of dual selling to trade & public task is inherently unbalanced. The maths is pretty simple - and we get enough numbers in this episode to prove it - as to why teams should basically ignore trade sales altogether and focus as much as they can on selling to the public. It's all about profit margins ...

The other 90% of my recap is as sarcastic and banging-my-head-in-disbelief as usual, though. Normal service will be resumed next week!

http://slouchingtowardstv.com/2013/0...he-bitter-end/
rhumble
09-05-2013
I think Roman Abramovich(Tim) had to go,,, I even forgot he was on the girls team. Plus he couldn't stop twitching. Some of the girls seem to be ganging up on Chas Dingle(Rebecca).

Other lookie likies that are amongst them are

Jocelyn Wildenstein(Uzma)
Simon Pegg (Neil)
Alicia Douvall (Leah)
Gok Wan (Jordan)
Brian Paddick(Myles)
Stella English(Francesca)
DavetheScot
09-05-2013
Originally Posted by tigragirl:
“Can I ask what Sophie did in the last task? Don't think she opened her mouth in the Boardroom, good thinking,let the other girls scrap”

When the location was blamed, she did speak up to ask who had suggested it.

I thought Tim was the right one to go. He was a really nice guy, but he was responsible for all the problems - he chose the locations and he was no more capable with the numbers than Francesca.

I'm stunned that so many of you seem to be on Jason's side against Zee and Alex. They were certainly unprofessional to argue with him in front of customers, but what were they supposed to do when he was so useless that he was not only not helping, but was actively sabotaging them?
priscilla
09-05-2013
Francessca looks like Frankie (Towie) and Stella English.
chestfield
09-05-2013
Originally Posted by divingbboy:
“I used to drink in this pub 3-4 times a week!”

Haven't read the rest of the thread yet, but it also used to be a branch of the Bristol & West Building Society, (now there's a name from the past) and I was at the opening party

Why use the cars to get there? It's a 5 minute walk from the house which, I am totally convinced, is in Lincoln's Inn Fields

Sainsbury's had a chocolate wine the other Christmas - very drinkable, we thought, so got some more. ("News at !0; in the gutter")

Of the Belgian fruit beers, I'd go for blackcurrant (a sort of alcoholic Ribena.....) or peach
Metal Mickey
09-05-2013
Originally Posted by slouchingthatch:
“... this type of dual selling to trade & public task is inherently unbalanced. The maths is pretty simple - and we get enough numbers in this episode to prove it - as to why teams should basically ignore trade sales altogether and focus as much as they can on selling to the public. It's all about profit margins ...”

As is often/regularly the case, there are some "invisible" rules in the tasks that we're not made aware of, generic ones like not using the internet, and in this case, something like "you must make a minimum of 4 casks for trade sale and 100 bottles for public sale, and you must sell at a minimum of 2 locations in each case." The producers have 60 minutes to fill up, and if (for instance) one team just produced 10 casks and sold them to one outlet, that would be a huge gap in the programme...
soapiej
09-05-2013
I watched both Tuesday's and Wednesday's episode yesterday, and I HATE Zee. He is so arrogant and over the top alpha male thingy, I can't stand him. Horrible guy. Ugh.

I quite liked Tim though, found he handled the beer project good, I wanted him to stay to be honest.
heiker
09-05-2013
Originally Posted by CitizenofPhobos:
“..Question so far, does anybody care or even bother talking about the Asian guy?”

I reckon he'd be right pissed off to be described as "Asian".
Oldnjaded
09-05-2013
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“I think Roman Abramovich(Tim) had to go,,, I even forgot he was on the girls team. Plus he couldn't stop twitching. Some of the girls seem to be ganging up on Chas Dingle(Rebecca).

Other lookie likies that are amongst them are

Jocelyn Wildenstein(Uzma)
Simon Pegg (Neil)
Alicia Douvall (Leah)
Gok Wan (Jordan)
Brian Paddick(Myles)
Stella English(Francesca)”

Haha, brilliant nicknames, rhumble, especially Jocelyn Wildebeest (as I prefer to call her).

But for me, Myles is the living spit of Oscar Pistorius.
slouchingthatch
09-05-2013
Originally Posted by Metal Mickey:
“As is often/regularly the case, there are some "invisible" rules in the tasks that we're not made aware of, generic ones like not using the internet, and in this case, something like "you must make a minimum of 4 casks for trade sale and 100 bottles for public sale, and you must sell at a minimum of 2 locations in each case." The producers have 60 minutes to fill up, and if (for instance) one team just produced 10 casks and sold them to one outlet, that would be a huge gap in the programme...”

That is absolutely true - and what you say was undoubtedly the case on this task.

What I mean is that teams should push the rules as far as possible in terms of slanting their effort towards retail sales. We kind of saw this in last year's condiments task, where (if I recall correctly) one team offloaded their trade stock relatively quickly and then joined their colleagues to add extra hands to their retail efforts.

Fundamentally, while it's important for the trade team to sell all their stock at a reasonable price, they seem to spend a lot of time fretting about it when in reality it's all about the retail sales. I rather suspect that Kurt's team, who were on top of their numbers, knew that. Tim's team, who couldn't do basic calculations, didn't.

It's also an illustration of why Endeavour won by so much despite their trade sales being so poor - the bit where they did well (selling to the public) is where the biggest profits are made anyway. Even when they were 'dumping' at £1 per pint at the end, they were still making similar profit margins to trade sales.
Annsyre
09-05-2013
You could have forgiven them for making mistakes in the first few series but, you would think that by now they would have clued in to some of the obvious mistakes and avoid them. And you would think that they would all so some basic simple arithmetic practice before they enter. The dopey female who said she didn't know about kilograms or millimetres yet was put in charge of measurements just about summed up the level of stupidity of her and the twerp who put her in charge.
chrono88
09-05-2013
I thought Francesca would be the one to go - sad to see cute Tim get the marching orders instead
Landis
09-05-2013
Finally figured out who Tim reminded me of.......


Constable Goody from The Thin Blue Line.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=0lqc7AOxd8k
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