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Old 08-05-2013, 14:34
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Do you think there is a possibility that Clara's Mum or Dad will travel with The Doctor possibly to find the real Clara/Oswin?


In previous episodes when there has been a mention of a 'daughter', Clara has always acted strange as if she is remembering something.
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Old 08-05-2013, 14:52
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Did you not watch The Rings of Akhaten ? Clara's mother is dead.
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Old 08-05-2013, 14:55
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People seem to forget a lot of stuff with these newer eps.
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Old 08-05-2013, 14:57
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Did you not watch The Rings of Akhaten ? Clara's mother is dead.
but why is she dead, has that been explained, does The Doctor remember seeing Clara's mum as in the prequel?
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Old 08-05-2013, 14:58
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People seem to forget a lot of stuff with these newer eps.
I should have mentioned the prequel earlier.
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:11
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but why is she dead, has that been explained, does The Doctor remember seeing Clara's mum as in the prequel?
Sometimes people get ill and die - it's not necessarily caused by an Alien.

In the prequel, does the Doctor just happen to meet Clara, or is his meeting her part of his investigation into her past, as shown in The Rings?
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:12
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Sometimes people get ill and die - it's not necessarily caused by an Alien.

In the prequel, does the Doctor just happen to meet Clara, or is his meeting her part of his investigation into her past, as shown in The Rings?
He just runs into her... It's before he goes all monk and goes into the Monastery to contemplate
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:17
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He just runs into her... It's before he goes all monk and goes into the Monastery to contemplate
Right. Thanks.

I wonder if he later remembers meeting her as a child?
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:19
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In the prequel, does the Doctor just happen to meet Clara, or is his meeting her part of his investigation into her past, as shown in The Rings?
It hasn't been explained as to why The Doctor was there.He met Clara on the swings but they didn't know each other. He was reading the Beano when they showed Clara's Mum and Dad meeting.
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:19
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Right. Thanks.

I wonder if he later remembers meeting her as a child?

Probably after her realises it was the same park... When he meets her when she's about 4ish...
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:41
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He just runs into her... It's before he goes all monk and goes into the Monastery to contemplate
is it ?

I thought all that was deliberate , part of his investigation .
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:45
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This is all becoming confusing



I didn't know he saw Clara when she was 4ish
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:46
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is it ?

I thought all that was deliberate , part of his investigation .
No it's before he goes to the Monastery. Young Clara actually gives him the idea to go away to a quiet room and try and remember where you last saw the thing you lost. Which is why he goes to the Monastery.



The Doctor was searching for Clara at that point and may have already spent time investigating the lives of Victorian Clara and Oswin but he had not yet started investigating the life of 21st Century Clara.
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:47
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is it ?

I thought all that was deliberate , part of his investigation .
LOL Right - now I still don't know.

This is all becoming confusing



I didn't know he saw Clara when she was 4ish
In the park with her Mum and Dad - at the beginning of Rings.
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:49
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No it's before he goes to the Monastery. Young Clara actually gives him the idea to go away to a quiet room and try and remember where you last saw the thing you lost. Which is why he goes to the Monastery.



The Doctor was searching for Clara at that point and may have already spent time investigating the lives of Victorian Clara and Oswin but he had not yet started investigating the life of 21st Century Clara.
Right. Now I'm clear. Thank you Corwin (again ).
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:50
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No it's before he goes to the Monastery. Young Clara actually gives him the idea to go away to a quiet room and try and remember where you last saw the thing you lost. Which is why he goes to the Monastery.



The Doctor was searching for Clara at that point and may have already spent time investigating the lives of Victorian Clara and Oswin but he had not yet started investigating the life of 21st Century Clara.
but the monastery bit was in the episode before the one where we see him kinda following her early childhood life (Rings of Akhaten?) wasn't it ?
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:55
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but the monastery bit was in the episode before the one where we see him kinda following her early childhood life (Rings of Akhaten?) wasn't it ?
That's what I thought. He doesn't even know 21st century Clara exists when he goes to the monastery. He only finds out when he gets an IT support telephone call from her!

Then, after meeting her and defeating the Shard lot he decides to investigate her past. He watches her parents first meet, the birth of their baby and then meets them again in a park when Clara is young. From which he then comes to the conclusion that Clara is a perfectly normal human girl.
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:55
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but the monastery bit was in the episode before the one where we see him kinda following her early childhood life (Rings of Akhaten?) wasn't it ?
Yes but the Prequel meeting was before all of it.

[LIST][*]Doc meets Oswin[*]Doc meets Victorian Clara[*]Doc spends a long time looking for a third version[*]Doc at some point investigates the lives of Oswin and Victorian Clara for clues.[*]Doc is ready to give up but meets young 21st Century Clara in playground.[*]She gives him the idea to go somewhere quiet and think about things.[*]He goes to the Monastery in 1207 (I think it was)[*]21st Century Clara rings him up (Bells of St J happens)[*]Doc then spends time Investigating the life of 21st Century Clara.[/LIST]
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:57
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Yes but the Prequel meeting was before all of it.

[LIST][*]Doc meets Oswin[*]Doc meets Victorian Clara[*]Doc spends a long time looking for a third version[*]Doc at some point investigates the lives of Oswin and Victorian Clara for clues.[*]Doc is ready to give up but meets young 21st Century Clara in playground.[*]She gives him the idea to go somewhere quiet and think about things.[*]He goes to the Monastery in 1207 (I think it was)[*]21st Century Clara rings him up (Bells of St J happens)[*]Doc then spends time Investigating the life of 21st Century Clara.[/LIST]
What's this prequel? Is there some web-only episode I don't know about
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:58
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Yes but the Prequel meeting was before all of it.

[LIST][*]Doc meets Oswin[*]Doc meets Victorian Clara[*]Doc spends a long time looking for a third version[*]Doc at some point investigates the lives of Oswin and Victorian Clara for clues.[*]Doc is ready to give up but meets young 21st Century Clara in playground.[*]She gives him the idea to go somewhere quiet and think about things.[*]He goes to the Monastery in 1207 (I think it was)[*]21st Century Clara rings him up (Bells of St J happens)[*]Doc then spends time Investigating the life of 21st Century Clara.[/LIST]

...... oh .

I didn't even know there was a prequel anyone got a link ?
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Old 08-05-2013, 15:59
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What's this prequel? Is there some web-only episode I don't know about
Prequel to The Bells of St John.
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Old 08-05-2013, 16:03
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Cheers Corwin .
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Old 08-05-2013, 16:11
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Thanks!

Are there any more of these webisode things or was that the only one?
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Old 08-05-2013, 16:19
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Thanks!

Are there any more of these webisode things or was that the only one?

That's been the only one for 7b but there have been others in the past (Asylum of the Daleks had one and The Snowmen had two for example).


I'm guessing the Finale may well have one as well.
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Old 08-05-2013, 16:22
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That's been the only one for 7b but there have been others in the past (Asylum of the Daleks had one and The Snowmen had two for example).


I'm guessing the Finale may well have one as well.
Guess I should frequent the BBC website more often

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