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Old 08-05-2013, 19:49
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Just wondered who people felt is the best screenwriter?

Tarantino? Joss Whedon?
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Old 08-05-2013, 19:56
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Aaron Sorkin
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Old 08-05-2013, 20:35
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William Goldman
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Old 08-05-2013, 20:36
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Joseph Howard.
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Old 08-05-2013, 20:37
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Another vote for William Goldman
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Old 08-05-2013, 20:54
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Old 08-05-2013, 21:10
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I'm going to agree with the earlier poster that said Aaron Sorkin
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Old 08-05-2013, 21:15
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What about Jane Goldman?
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:10
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Woody Allen.

Joel and Ethan Coen, if they count as a screenwriter.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:52
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Quentin Tarantino (double OSCAR winner)
Coen Brothers
Woody Allen
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Old 09-05-2013, 19:00
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Quentin Tarantino (double OSCAR winner)
Coen Brothers
Woody Allen
Quentin Tarantino has the same amount of screenwriting Oscars as the Coen Brothers? And one more than Aaron Sorkin?

Personally I think his dialogue is over hyped. From the few films of his I've seen I haven't picked up on what everybody else sees in him. His dialogue's not bad, I just don't see what's so good about it. That said he is a good director, (but a bad editor)
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Old 09-05-2013, 19:09
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Well that is your opinion isn't it?
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Old 09-05-2013, 19:14
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Well that is your opinion isn't it?
Erm yes, I wasn't trying to be rude. I was merely pondering what it was people liked about Tarantino's scripts (they're more than entitled to like whoever they want, I was just curious)...
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Old 09-05-2013, 19:30
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Another respectful nod to Goldman, and David Mamet.

But my personal fave is probably Paul Schrader.
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Old 09-05-2013, 20:17
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Erm yes, I wasn't trying to be rude. I was merely pondering what it was people liked about Tarantino's scripts (they're more than entitled to like whoever they want, I was just curious)...
Because it is a personal taste. I've never been disappointed in any of his movies, even Death Proof is watchable now and again. Pulp Fiction made me fall in love with movies
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Old 09-05-2013, 20:46
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I.A.L. Diamond and Billy Wilder should deff be in there
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Old 09-05-2013, 21:03
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Because it is a personal taste. I've never been disappointed in any of his movies, even Death Proof is watchable now and again. Pulp Fiction made me fall in love with movies
He's definitely a brilliant director and he is a good writer. I've just never seen what got him such an obsessive fan base.

But then I suppose it is all subjective, and I didn't get into movies until Tarantino's influence had firmly taken hold. So writing that probably was groundbreaking at the time, is now more frequent...
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Old 09-05-2013, 22:47
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Quentin Tarantino has the same amount of screenwriting Oscars as the Coen Brothers? And one more than Aaron Sorkin?

Personally I think his dialogue is over hyped. From the few films of his I've seen I haven't picked up on what everybody else sees in him. His dialogue's not bad, I just don't see what's so good about it. That said he is a good director, (but a bad editor)
I'd say Tarantino is a better writer than he is a director. Certainly most of his films his films could do with serious editing, particularly Django Unchained which I thought was 20 minutes too long.
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Old 09-05-2013, 22:49
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I'd say Tarantino is a better writer than he is a director. Certainly most of his films his films could do with serious editing, particularly Django Unchained which I thought was 20 minutes too long.
Yeah, he's become more self-indulgent recently. Did we really need two different volumes of Kill Bill? The first one is brilliant, but I never made it to the second, because I didn't really see the point in it, the first was good enough on it's own...
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Old 10-05-2013, 00:08
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Quentin Tarantino (double OSCAR winner)
Coen Brothers
Woody Allen
I would say they count and they have my vote.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:43
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I would say they count and they have my vote.
Definitely count, I have the Burn After Reading screenplay in my book collection (it was released by Faber)
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:42
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Got to be another vote for Mr. William Goldman. I love Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. That is my favourite of his.

One of the problems with modern films is that it is so centered around the director(hence the "auteur" theory). Not enough credit is given to the writer. You can have a great director, but if he has a lousy script, chances are the film will be rubbish. Hitchcock was a good example of this - great films such as Rear Window and Psycho with well developed story concepts from their writers(John Michael Hayes and Joseph Steffano respectively). Give him an underdeveloped story(e.g. Topaz) and it turns out to be not so good.

I think Francis Ford Coppola should be added to the list of writers as well. Not only did he do superb adaptations of Patton, The Godfather Trilogy and Apocalypse Now, he also did an original screenplay in the form of The Conversation.
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:58
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Goldman's books Adventures in the Screen Trade and Which Lie Did I Tell? are well worth reading for an insight into the movie business from a writer's point of view.
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Old 10-05-2013, 13:47
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Quentin Tarantino has the same amount of screenwriting Oscars as the Coen Brothers? And one more than Aaron Sorkin?

Personally I think his dialogue is over hyped. From the few films of his I've seen I haven't picked up on what everybody else sees in him. His dialogue's not bad, I just don't see what's so good about it. That said he is a good director, (but a bad editor)
Screenwriting isn't just dialogue though.
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Old 10-05-2013, 13:48
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Yeah, he's become more self-indulgent recently. Did we really need two different volumes of Kill Bill? The first one is brilliant, but I never made it to the second, because I didn't really see the point in it, the first was good enough on it's own...
It was one. But the studios said it was too long so it was split into two parts.
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