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I noticed on the BBC website's profiles of the candidates they don't give their educational qualifications . This is the first year this has happened because it was always interesting to read their educational background .
Is educational background no longer important to LS and the BBC ? Judging by the fiasco the girls and Tim made of some simple maths they need to think again. |
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...They only mentioned Little Lord Fauntleroy's (forget his name) academic past.
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...They only mentioned Little Lord Fauntleroy's (forget his name) academic past.
No way would I go into partnership with any of the four who wasted so much stock and money because they were unable to do basic maths . I'm afraid one of my favourites Rebecca was among those holding her head in bewilderment because their basic errors didn't add up. |
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But really what good is having a 1:1 from a oxbridge university in ancient Greek etc if for some reason you can't add 2+2 without saying err daddy help me please
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One of the women has a doctrate
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One of the women has a doctrate
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I'm really perplexed as to why a qualified doctor would bother with the Apprentice .
An opportunity is an opportunity, whichever way you bat it... |
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I'm really perplexed as to why a qualified doctor would bother with the Apprentice .
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One of the women has a doctrate
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It is implied that she is a medical doctor. Therefore she doesnt really have a doctorate because medical doctors for some bizarre reason get given the title Dr without the need for a PhD..... i think it was done like that so that we common folk would have more trust in them.
I'm not a doctor (although I work in healthcare) but I do grow a little tired of the sniping and sneering which have become par for the course to direct at anyone associated with healthcare these days. |
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Maybe it's a PhD, or her business plan could be concerning some kind of medical device.
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But really what good is having a 1:1 from a oxbridge university in ancient Greek etc if for some reason you can't add 2+2 without saying err daddy help me please
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Medical doctors spend up to seven years studying before being deemed able to start practicing independently, Five years on the standard degree course comprised of lectures and clinical placements, followed by two years further on the job training - I think it is quite appropriate for them to have the title 'doctor' at the end of this marathon.
I'm not a doctor (although I work in healthcare) but I do grow a little tired of the sniping and sneering which have become par for the course to direct at anyone associated with healthcare these days. Regardless i wasn't in anyways demeaning the work of medical doctors. I was just explaining that it was implied in the show she was a medical Dr and not a Dr from a PhD. I do get a little tired of those in the health profession who always think they are being put down by others. |
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I really don't agree that they should get the "Dr" title just because they do a lot of training. They should have a lot of training when they are looking after people! However it takes a lot of training to be good at lots of different jobs and yet they don't get given "Dr" titles. Training is not the same as research in the way that Phd is and ergo the Dr title should be reserved to those with the Phd IMO.
Regardless i wasn't in anyways demeaning the work of medical doctors. I was just explaining that it was implied in the show she was a medical Dr and not a Dr from a PhD. I do get a little tired of those in the health profession who always think they are being put down by others. They should be called "Doctor" because that is what they are. Anyone qualified (whatever that qualification is) to assess ill/injured people, diagnose what is wrong with someone and prescribe the next course of action is a doctor. That is their profession. However, as you rightly pointed out she does not have a doctorate. However (again ), it is not bizarre that she is called doctor, for reasons above. People train to become doctors. What else would you call them?
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No, you are absolutely right.
They should be called "Doctor" because that is what they are. Anyone qualified (whatever that qualification is) to assess ill/injured people, diagnose what is wrong with someone and prescribe the next course of action is a doctor. That is their profession. However, as you rightly pointed out she does not have a doctorate. However (again ), it is not bizarre that she is called doctor, for reasons above. People train to become doctors. What else would you call them? |
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Surgeons are not called Drs yet they go through more training than a doctor.
The simple fact remains - those people undergoing all that training at the start of their profession are doing it to become doctors. So that is what they should be called. |
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Surgeons are not called Drs yet they go through more training than a doctor.
Only Consultants ( of whatever specialism) are called Mr/ Mrs/ Miss whatever.... |
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What else would you call them?
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One of those curisities of the UK.
To qualify as a Doctor of medicine (PhD) you go through training and exams. Then you take further exams to become a surgeon. Historically Doctors and Surgeons followed different paths (surgeons didn't require any formal training in medicine and were refered to as Mr (Mrs Miss)) As a throwback now if you get your PhD you become "Doctor" yet revert to Mr (Mrs / Miss) once qualified as a surgeon. |
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One of those curisities of the UK.
To qualify as a Doctor of medicine (PhD) you go through training and exams. Then you take further exams to become a surgeon. Historically Doctors and Surgeons followed different paths (surgeons didn't require any formal training in medicine and were refered to as Mr (Mrs Miss)) As a throwback now if you get your PhD you become "Doctor" yet revert to Mr (Mrs / Miss) once qualified as a surgeon. Most Drs specialise in one subject and take further exams in that specialism, and if they do enough - they become a Fellow of the Royal College of whatever specialism that is. However - as stated above most hospital surgeons are like their fellow doctors known as Dr - only Consultants (in any specialism) are usually known as Mr (Mrs/ Miss) |
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M.D = Doctor of Medicine
Ph.D = Doctor of Philosophy I don't know why this "Dr is only a title that should go to those with a Ph.D" started, but it's ridiculous. |
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I noticed on the BBC website's profiles of the candidates they don't give their educational qualifications . This is the first year this has happened because it was always interesting to read their educational background .
Is educational background no longer important to LS and the BBC ? Judging by the fiasco the girls and Tim made of some simple maths they need to think again. After all, Mr Alan Sugar left school with a few mediocre grades at O level, failed to make the grade for anything else, became a mere Barrowboy, and isn't qualified. Not surprising that the BBC does not want to emphasize Academic Qualifications.....lest they embarrass Mr Alan Sugar. |
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MD is only really used in the US in place of the UK's MB ChB - unless of course a UK medical Dr actually DOES have a Doctorate in Medicine (which some do!)
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I'm really perplexed as to why a qualified doctor would bother with the Apprentice .
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), it is not bizarre that she is called doctor, for reasons above. People train to become doctors. What else would you call them?