I noticed on the BBC website's profiles of the candidates they don't give their educational qualifications . This is the first year this has happened because it was always interesting to read their educational background .

Is educational background no longer important to LS and the BBC ? Judging by the fiasco the girls and Tim made of some simple maths they need to think again.

...They only mentioned Little Lord Fauntleroy's (forget his name) academic past.

Usually most of the candidates have a pretty good educational background and its important to see this mentioned in their profiles.

No way would I go into partnership with any of the four who wasted so much stock and money because they were unable to do basic maths .
I'm afraid one of my favourites Rebecca was among those holding her head in bewilderment because their basic errors didn't add up.

But really what good is having a 1:1 from a oxbridge university in ancient Greek etc if for some reason you can't add 2+2 without saying err daddy help me please

One of the women has a doctrate

I'm really perplexed as to why a qualified doctor would bother with the Apprentice .

People often find that their passions lie elsewhere to the first prescribed path they might take.

An opportunity is an opportunity, whichever way you bat it...

Maybe it's a PhD, or her business plan could be concerning some kind of medical device.

It is implied that she is a medical doctor. Therefore she doesnt really have a doctorate because medical doctors for some bizarre reason get given the title Dr without the need for a PhD..... i think it was done like that so that we common folk would have more trust in them.

Medical doctors spend up to seven years studying before being deemed able to start practicing independently, Five years on the standard degree course comprised of lectures and clinical placements, followed by two years further on the job training - I think it is quite appropriate for them to have the title 'doctor' at the end of this marathon.

I'm not a doctor (although I work in healthcare) but I do grow a little tired of the sniping and sneering which have become par for the course to direct at anyone associated with healthcare these days.

Or maybe (and I hope not) her plan is just to become famous. If she did have an idea for a medical device there are many easier ways of raising £250,000 than going through the Apprentice process.

Absolutely. All the education in the world can't buy common sense and that appears to be what many of them are lacking.

I really don't agree that they should get the "Dr" title just because they do a lot of training. They should have a lot of training when they are looking after people! However it takes a lot of training to be good at lots of different jobs and yet they don't get given "Dr" titles. Training is not the same as research in the way that Phd is and ergo the Dr title should be reserved to those with the Phd IMO.

Regardless i wasn't in anyways demeaning the work of medical doctors. I was just explaining that it was implied in the show she was a medical Dr and not a Dr from a PhD.

I do get a little tired of those in the health profession who always think they are being put down by others.

No, you are absolutely right.

They should be called "Doctor" because that is what they are. Anyone qualified (whatever that qualification is) to assess ill/injured people, diagnose what is wrong with someone and prescribe the next course of action is a doctor. That is their profession.

However, as you rightly pointed out she does not have a doctorate. However (again ), it is not bizarre that she is called doctor, for reasons above. People train to become doctors. What else would you call them?

Surgeons are not called Drs yet they go through more training than a doctor.

That's their choice. It a distinguishing feature within the medical profession.

The simple fact remains - those people undergoing all that training at the start of their profession are doing it to become doctors. So that is what they should be called.

Surgeons are all doctors.... They just choose to specialise in surgery as opposed to being GPs, dermatologists obstetricians etc. and most of them are known as Dr

Only Consultants ( of whatever specialism) are called Mr/ Mrs/ Miss whatever....

It's a bit confusing to use the same word for two different things (even though both are very valuable). We don't have another word to use so we're stuck with the confusion.

One of those curisities of the UK.

To qualify as a Doctor of medicine (PhD) you go through training and exams.

Then you take further exams to become a surgeon. Historically Doctors and Surgeons followed different paths (surgeons didn't require any formal training in medicine and were refered to as Mr (Mrs Miss))

As a throwback now if you get your PhD you become "Doctor" yet revert to Mr (Mrs / Miss) once qualified as a surgeon.

To qualify as a doctor in the UK you study for 5 years at University to get your MB ChB degrees (Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery. Then they need to do a further year as a Junior House Officer (6 months in surgery 6 months in medicine) before going down any specialist route

Most Drs specialise in one subject and take further exams in that specialism, and if they do enough - they become a Fellow of the Royal College of whatever specialism that is.

However - as stated above most hospital surgeons are like their fellow doctors known as Dr - only Consultants (in any specialism) are usually known as Mr (Mrs/ Miss)

M.D = Doctor of Medicine
Ph.D = Doctor of Philosophy

I don't know why this "Dr is only a title that should go to those with a Ph.D" started, but it's ridiculous.

Isn't it a foregone conclusion that the proverbial loser will always return the next season ?

After all, Mr Alan Sugar left school with a few mediocre grades at O level, failed to make the grade for anything else, became a mere Barrowboy, and isn't qualified.

Not surprising that the BBC does not want to emphasize Academic Qualifications.....lest they embarrass Mr Alan Sugar.

MD is only really used in the US in place of the UK's MB ChB - unless of course a UK medical Dr actually DOES have a Doctorate in Medicine (which some do!)

I was bewildered that she didn't volunteer the ratio's required for the beer task - I'd be a bit concerned if she had to prescribe any medicine for me!

Tampax for men ?