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Old 11-05-2013, 22:07
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This is just something I've noticed over the past year or so. It used to be iPhones where vastly over priced, I remember the 3GS free on 35 per month contracts, the 3G 30, while you could get a top of the range android such as the Desire on contracts free for 25 or so, This went on ever since androids and iPhone were about I guess. But now you can get the latest iPhone the iPhone 5 free on 30 per month tariffs, while the latest androids are free on 35 pm tarriffs.
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Old 11-05-2013, 22:34
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They are definitely expensive. I think top of the range has taken a huge leap mind you from when desires era. 500+ worth though is debatable....guess its supply and demand and like apple, they'll cash in while the products are hot.
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Old 11-05-2013, 22:41
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Samsung have really taken people for fools with the 16gb S4 having a RRP of over 600. Not even Apple have tried that with the release day RRP for the 16Gb iPhone 5 being 529.

But Samsung is a corporate multi national giant and they are ONLY in it to make money, just like all the others.
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Old 11-05-2013, 22:44
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It needs for everyone to stop buying.....wont happen though
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Old 11-05-2013, 22:50
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But that won't happen, when you read comments on here with users stating the phone is worth 600 due to having a 1080p screen and great camera and features.

Some TV's have gesture features, a 42" 1080p screen and even cameras built in for 600. Only a fool thinks any 500+ phone is value for money. These handsets are propping up Samsungs loss making divisions.

But let them keep buying the emperors new clothes.

Although I am guilty of getting a S4 lol, to be honest though its laggy as hell and the screen keeps flickering I think it's going back. I have distance selling rules THANK GOD.
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Old 11-05-2013, 22:56
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Its terrifying to think of walking around with 600 of phone. Even mine s3mini is said all too often on here overpriced at 250 ish. However I do only pay 15.99 / month and previously paid 10 / month to use my old w810i on payg.
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:10
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Its terrifying to think of walking around with 600 of phone. Even mine s3mini is said all too often on here overpriced at 250 ish. However I do only pay 15.99 / month and previously paid 10 / month to use my old w810i on payg.
Isn't it just 600 worth of phone. My laptop and tv are less expensive yet I'd think of them as more expensive. Google had the right idea with the Nexus 4. Top of the range at 250 or so.
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:11
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Look its only expensive if you buy a branded android phone,buy an unbranded android phone,the one i have got is the star n9330 from china,its the best phone i have ever had,and for 130 it is fantastic.
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:29
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Its called market forces.
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:31
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Its called market forces.
No,its called been ripped off!!
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:33
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You think 35pm is expensive...?

You clearly haven't seen the prices here
http://ee.co.uk/

To be honest the iPhone has got cheaper as there is no more exclusivity with carriers or certain killer features that Android doesn't have. You can still buy the HTC One for 25pm from third parties. And tbh iPhone's are still expensive on standard tariffs and in line with top end android phones.
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:41
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No,its called been ripped off!!
Just go somewhere else then. Its called choice.
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:48
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Just go somewhere else then. Its called choice.
Dont worry i have!
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:51
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This is just something I've noticed over the past year or so. It used to be iPhones where vastly over priced, I remember the 3GS free on 35 per month contracts, the 3G 30, while you could get a top of the range android such as the Desire on contracts free for 25 or so, This went on ever since androids and iPhone were about I guess. But now you can get the latest iPhone the iPhone 5 free on 30 per month tariffs, while the latest androids are free on 35 pm tarriffs.
Except you're mistaken. The Desire definitely launched at a higher price than that.
As for your comment about the iPhone5 being available free at 30/month, that's not a launch price, it's more than 6 months since it went on sale and prices have dipped quicker and sharper than any other iPhone before it.

You're comparing apples and oranges, launch prices to prices after handsets have been on the market for a while of course it's going to seem like there's a disparity.



Samsung have really taken people for fools with the 16gb S4 having a RRP of over 600.
I don't suppose you have a source for that?
I haven't seen any word on an RRP/MSRP for the S4.


But that won't happen, when you read comments on here with users stating the phone is worth 600 due to having a 1080p screen and great camera and features.

Some TV's have gesture features, a 42" 1080p screen and even cameras built in for 600. Only a fool thinks any 500+ phone is value for money. These handsets are propping up Samsungs loss making divisions.
You do realise that it's vastly more complicated and therefore more expensive to fit all that into a phone than a TV?
Most of the price you're paying for with devices like phones is for miniaturisation. Comparing it to a TV is pointless.
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:51
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Cool. So the markets working.
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:57
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Top of the range phones, starting with the IPhone have always been 500.

My N95 was on a 30 a month contract, my Google Nexus One cost almost 500 to buy outright, my Galaxy Nexus cost 500. A low end laptop costs about that, and there's a similar amount of technology in a phone, except miniaturised.

As for value? Well, I use it for several hours every day and will keep it for two years. That's less than 2 a day for more than half of my leisure activity. Seems reasonable.
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:54
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To be honest the iPhone has got cheaper as there is no more exclusivity with carriers or certain killer features that Android doesn't have. You can still buy the HTC One for 25pm from third parties. And tbh iPhone's are still expensive on standard tariffs and in line with top end android phones.
Do you have any links to that price plan?
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:11
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T-Mobile
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500 Mins/Unl Texts & Data - 26pm + 44.99 upfront
100 Mins/Unl Texts/1GB Data- 21pm + 84.99 upfront
-Or 300 mins/250mb data for price above

Orange
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300 Mins/Unl Texts/500mb - 20.50pm + 54.99 upfront

O2
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Unl Mins/Texts & 1GB Data - 27pm + 69.99 upfront

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/
http://www.mobiles.co.uk
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:04
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Samsung have really taken people for fools with the 16gb S4 having a RRP of over 600. Not even Apple have tried that with the release day RRP for the 16Gb iPhone 5 being 529.

But Samsung is a corporate multi national giant and they are ONLY in it to make money, just like all the others.
Whether you are a 'corporate multinational giant' or the corner shop, you are in business to make money. It's how you pay your staff and invest in new products. Failure to do so results in closure.

To not seek the best selling price for your products/services is basically insane.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:23
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T-Mobile
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500 Mins/Unl Texts & Data - 26pm + 44.99 upfront
100 Mins/Unl Texts/1GB Data- 21pm + 84.99 upfront
-Or 300 mins/250mb data for price above

Orange
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300 Mins/Unl Texts/500mb - 20.50pm + 54.99 upfront

O2
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Unl Mins/Texts & 1GB Data - 27pm + 69.99 upfront

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/
http://www.mobiles.co.uk
There is still an upfront free involved, to get it free your talking 32+ and the S4 35, the iPhone 5 is 30
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:27
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This is just something I've noticed over the past year or so. It used to be iPhones where vastly over priced, I remember the 3GS free on 35 per month contracts, the 3G 30, while you could get a top of the range android such as the Desire on contracts free for 25 or so, This went on ever since androids and iPhone were about I guess. But now you can get the latest iPhone the iPhone 5 free on 30 per month tariffs, while the latest androids are free on 35 pm tarriffs.
I said this in a another thread but the networks and manufacturers have concocted one of the greatest marketing ploys of all time.

Which other product could someone be persuaded to shell out 700+ and then be convinced to ditch it and buy another one for about the same price every 2 years?

Consumers wouldn't do it for TV's, cameras, consoles, white goods or whatever. You'd be treated like a nutcase if you changed your fridge freezer every 2 years.

Round of applause for them though, absolute genius.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:33
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I said this in a another thread but the networks and manufacturers have concocted one of the greatest marketing ploys of all time.

Which other product could someone be persuaded to shell out 700+ and then be convinced to ditch it and buy another one for about the same price every 2 years?

Consumers wouldn't do it for TV's, cameras, consoles, white goods or whatever. You'd be treated like a nutcase if you changed your fridge freezer every 2 years.

Round of applause for them though, absolute genius.
Well this is true I guess. I mean its not like the phones stop working after 2 years, my iPhone 4 still does everything it did when I bought it 2-3 years ago, it mightn't be the fastest phone now or have the best camera but its still works fine, It really is genius by the manufacturers, even my laptop is 2-3 years old now, still works fine and I don't have the urge to buy a new one until this one packs in, how many of us keep phones until they pack in?
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:18
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Its pressure of seeing friends with better phones that keeps it all moving. We dont all carry our fridges around and compare with friends but phones are so in your face that we do.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:33
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Look its only expensive if you buy a branded android phone,buy an unbranded android phone,the one i have got is the star n9330 from china,its the best phone i have ever had,and for 130 it is fantastic.
Exactly.

I wanted a NOTE 2, but it was over 500 or 70 upfront with 36 a month

Now, I purchased a NOTE 2 clone from china for 120. I am not going to say it is AS GOOD, because it is not, but it is prob about 80% as good. and since it costs 1/5th of the price it proves you CAN build a quality phone for a lot less, but Samsung are simply profiterring. Like it has been said though, they will charge, because people will pay. Stop paying, it will get cheaper, but that will never happen
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:35
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Its pressure of seeing friends with better phones that keeps it all moving. We dont all carry our fridges around and compare with friends but phones are so in your face that we do.
Agreed, but it's also about the way the contract is structured, being able to pay for a phone on a monthly basis and then the carrot of an upgrade after a few years ensuring the monthly spend remains the same.

If everybody just paid for a cheaper contract but had to pay the 500-600 for the phone upfront you can bet your bottom dollar that consumers would keep the phone for longer then the 18-24 months of the contracted term.
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