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Old 16-05-2013, 10:05
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Finger crossings, as love Dredd film. And Karl Urban is the Dredd!

Karl Urban has been discussing the possibility of a sequel to Dredd, and says that despite the filmís relatively poor box office showing, there could yet be scope for a follow-up.

Made on a budget of $45 million, the film grossed just $35.6 million worldwide, meaning that a sequel had initially looked unlikely. However, according to Urban, there may yet be demand for a second film...

ďInterestingly enough, I did have breakfast with Alex Garland this morning,Ē says Urban. ďItís not off the agenda. Clearly everyone has woken up to the fact that an audience has found this movie and loves it.Ē

ďItís entirely possible, and if people want to see another instalment then they should be vocal about that, because it can happen. The power of fandom can resurrect projects. In fact, thatís what happened with Star Trek. They werenít going to do a third season until fans did a letter writing campaign and they continued that series.Ē


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Old 16-05-2013, 10:16
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Interesting. With "only" a $10 million loss, it's not like it completely tanked I suppose. Maybe they'll hold off for a while to see if it continues to make money with international DVD sales?

I suspect that if any sequel is greenlit thought, it would probably be with a greatly reduced budget, which could potentially hamper it rather than enhance it. Still, keeping my fingers crossed because I did like the first one and I do agree that Urban really did nail Dredd.
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Old 16-05-2013, 11:18
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Interesting. With "only" a $10 million loss, it's not like it completely tanked I suppose. Maybe they'll hold off for a while to see if it continues to make money with international DVD sales?

I suspect that if any sequel is greenlit thought, it would probably be with a greatly reduced budget, which could potentially hamper it rather than enhance it. Still, keeping my fingers crossed because I did like the first one and I do agree that Urban really did nail Dredd.
I thought that it had done quite well on DVD sales, and I imagine they might try and avoid some of the trapping the last film fell into if they were to try it again...
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Old 16-05-2013, 14:40
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Interesting.

Does anybody know if DVD sales have recouped the loss and turned it into a profit or not?

Is it wishful thinking on their part though? I hope its based on something real which has made them feel that a sequel may be on the cards.
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Old 16-05-2013, 14:54
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Interesting.

Does anybody know if DVD sales have recouped the loss and turned it into a profit or not?

Is it wishful thinking on their part though? I hope its based on something real which has made them feel that a sequel may be on the cards.
I believe that it did comparatively well when released on DVD/Blu Ray, but i doubt that it will have sold enough to put it into a profit, i doubt it'll have even broke even yet. Remember that the $45 million figure being quoted is only the production budget, that's not taking into account the advertising and other costs. Most films don't see a profit until they've doubled or tripled their production budget, which Dredd will be nowhere near doing (yet).
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Old 16-05-2013, 15:09
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It's a shame. Thought it was a decent enough film even though I was never into Dredd/2000AD.
I think a lot of people weren't expecting much and decided to see the film by 'other' means rather than going to the cinema.



Maybe someone could answer here as I don't want to wade into the minefield of the comics section.
Is Dredd...

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Old 16-05-2013, 15:19
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A sequel is not going to happen - my opinion. I do think DREDD is going to come back again one day (maybe after 2020) in another attempt at a reboot. But a sequel to the current one just sounds very unlikely.

By the way, someone on DS posted this link a few days ago. It's a 27 minute Judge Dredd fan film called JUDGE MINTY. You can watch it here: LINK
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Old 16-05-2013, 15:24
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Maybe someone could answer here as I don't want to wade into the minefield of the comics section.
Is Dredd...

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Good thought, but after 20 years on the streets, it always based on gut feelings.
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Old 16-05-2013, 17:09
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I only saw it belatedly on Blu-Ray and even then I only bought it cos is was v.cheap on release... about a tenner in Asda I think. I was completely surprised at how good it is and I'd hope that the disc sales will gradually tot up to make the film profitable and thus make a sequel viable.
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Old 16-05-2013, 17:20
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Interesting. With "only" a $10 million loss, it's not like it completely tanked I suppose. Maybe they'll hold off for a while to see if it continues to make money with international DVD sales?
It doesn't quite work like that, though. The entire box office receipts don't go to the studio. They get eaten up by everyone in the supply chain. eg. distributors and cinemas. The production costs also don't include marketing costs like advertising, so there will actually be a few million more on top of the budget that the studio will have spent.

Generally they say you need to make at least twice the production cost at the box office for the studio to make a profit. In which case, Dredd tanked pretty badly. However its not impossible for films to end up turning a profit on DVD sales. It just takes a lot longer to make the money back.

Whilst I'd like to see another one and its not unlikely that the minds behind it might be attempting to put a new pitch together, I think its highly unlikely any studio will greenlight it. Its a shame, because I did enjoy the film and we get so few "old school" adult action films nowadays.

The only way I can see a studio willing to give it a go is if they agree to make it a PG-13/12A certificate, in order to pull in a larger audience. If that were the case, I think I'd rather they didn't bother and just left us with the one we got.
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Old 16-05-2013, 17:23
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i watched it on blu ray and loved it,if there is a sequel i will go cinema to give it support
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Old 16-05-2013, 17:24
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He's a very versatile actor, very menacing and impressive in Riddick, funny as Bones, took me a while to put all the roles together and realise it was the same bloke.
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Old 16-05-2013, 17:28
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wasnt he in second LOTR too?
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Old 16-05-2013, 17:38
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He's a very versatile actor, very menacing and impressive in Riddick, funny as Bones, took me a while to put all the roles together and realise it was the same bloke.
Yep very good versatile.
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Old 16-05-2013, 17:53
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wasnt he in second LOTR too?
Well he was actually in the 2nd and 3rd ones as Eomer.
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Old 16-05-2013, 18:08
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There are plenty of movies that didn't do well theatricaly but found an audience on home video. The original Austin Powers being a great example that was soon turned into a very lucrative movie franchise with the sequels. I think it'd be worth the effort with Dredd.
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Old 16-05-2013, 18:10
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I love Karl Urban and really enjoyed Dredd so I would love it if a second movie was made.

But at the moment, it doesn't look like the finances stack up which is a shame.

But I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway.
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Old 17-05-2013, 03:03
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I think it's worth the effort to pursue a franchise.

They got so much of it spot on with the tone and feel, and Dredd looked as perfect as he could possibly be.

I put the box office problems down to one thing. The story was just far too basic. And that's it. Go up a tower and catch a criminal, and that was the plot of the film.

I think that with more care on the script they could do great things with a franchise.
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Old 17-05-2013, 12:08
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Maybe if they hadnít made it so hard to find a 2D version of it then it would have had more success in the cinema?

Having it as an 18 limited the audience as well, even though it was great to see an action film not watered down to a 15 or 12A.
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Old 17-05-2013, 12:31
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Maybe if they hadnít made it so hard to find a 2D version of it then it would have had more success in the cinema?
true, although i can understand the thinking - the extra revenue from 3D probably meant more to them so they held off on the 2D release. maybe if they had put both versious out at the same time it would have performed better?
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Old 18-05-2013, 01:26
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'Not usually a fan of these comic book adaptations, but Dredd was one of the best and I thought Urban excelled in the role, so I would definitely look forward to a sequel.
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Old 18-05-2013, 01:39
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The fact that it was a comic book story that dropped you in the middle of an average day was inspired. Imagine a Batman film that dispensed of all back story and picked up with Batman in the middle of a case!
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Old 18-05-2013, 01:51
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The fact that it was a comic book story that dropped you in the middle of an average day was inspired. Imagine a Batman film that dispensed of all back story and picked up with Batman in the middle of a case!
Inspired or a poor choice for attracting casual fans (which a film based on a not very well known superhero, with an 18 certificate would have to be incredibly good at to be a success.)
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Old 18-05-2013, 13:16
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I think it's worth the effort to pursue a franchise.
My feeling also. The comics have a lot of source material. It has the potential to be a good, long-running and profitable franchise if they get the formula right. That probably means spending less money (and going 2D would help there), and lowering the rating to 15 so a bigger audience can see it.
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Old 18-05-2013, 13:38
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My feeling also. The comics have a lot of source material. It has the potential to be a good, long-running and profitable franchise if they get the formula right. That probably means spending less money (and going 2D would help there), and lowering the rating to 15 so a bigger audience can see it.
If they were to drop it to a 15 would it piss off the hardcore fans who want to see Judge Dredd skinning people alive and whatnot?

Also, no studio would bite for a 15. I think if they wanted to get financing it's PG-13 or broke now. Several PG-13s have been violent enough to warrant 15s though...
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