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Old 16-05-2013, 10:24
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Seems to have been a bit of a non event
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Old 16-05-2013, 10:26
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Seems to have been a bit of a non event
Well it's a developers' conference.

I don't know what they've announced at these things before but it's not really a PR exercise.
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Old 16-05-2013, 10:45
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The problem with these things is despite the world's media being in attendance, they are geared to developers. It's nearly always about APIs and software enhancements, so to consumers they're often a let down.
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Old 16-05-2013, 10:48
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Google i/o is a developers conference. From the blogs I have read the developers seemed pretty stoked by the keynote.
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Old 16-05-2013, 11:00
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I think some were hoping for possible updates to the Nexus 7 (and maybe nexus 4), afterall, they are considered developers hardware.

They have also announced some products (music streaming) and lots of low level stuff.

The one which might effect people immediately is the update to google maps to include vector graphics (good) and localised ads (bad).
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Old 16-05-2013, 11:20
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Depends on if they had announced anything big in previous years. If yes, expectations are legitimate. If not it's just media creating false ones.
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Old 16-05-2013, 11:24
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Depends on if they had announced anything big in previous years. If yes, expectations are legitimate. If not it's just media creating false ones.
Historically, most new versions of Android are announced at I/O, expectations were 4.3 or possibly 5 were going to be announced. Unfortunately this does not appear to be the case - hence some of the disappointment.
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Old 16-05-2013, 11:39
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They did announce some decent stuff though. An update to Google Maps, the music streaming service, cloud syncing, and a focus on tablet-optimised apps.

I think they're a bit behind with Key Lime Pie which is why it wasn't unveiled at I/O, but I expect it'll be announced before long.

Oh, the Hangouts app is appalling though. Tried it last night with a friend. He's on Android and I'm on iOS. We both agreed that it wasn't a pleasant experience.
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Old 16-05-2013, 11:40
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Google are too busy trying hide the fact they have allegedly scammed the UK out of 100's of millions in tax to worry about promoting Android. Anyone watch the Google Vice President squirming on Sky news?

I wonder if Android will face a public back lash like Starbucks did and people start to boycott it. Due to the fact they have potentially cost the UK 100's of jobs.
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Old 16-05-2013, 12:08
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Google are too busy trying hide the fact they have allegedly scammed the UK out of 100's of millions in tax to worry about promoting Android. Anyone watch the Google Vice President squirming on Sky news?

I wonder if Android will face a public back lash like Starbucks did and people start to boycott it. Due to the fact they have potentially cost the UK 100's of jobs.
Do you think the google i/o was changed because of the tax situation in the UK?

Because i do not think that is the case. I also think it's probably not the devs that deal with the tax. even at google.
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Old 16-05-2013, 12:11
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I think they will hold a separate event for the next nexus 7 and next version of android for the wider press. The nexus 7 was probably the best ever selling nexus and is great value for money and had mass appeal so I think they will have a bigger push for the next one.
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Old 16-05-2013, 13:12
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Google are too busy trying hide the fact they have allegedly scammed the UK out of 100's of millions in tax to worry about promoting Android. Anyone watch the Google Vice President squirming on Sky news?

I wonder if Android will face a public back lash like Starbucks did and people start to boycott it. Due to the fact they have potentially cost the UK 100's of jobs.
Hi Hugh_.
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Old 16-05-2013, 13:15
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You're not wrong. good spot.
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Old 16-05-2013, 13:20
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The ability for Google to push updates to core services and frameworks from the Play Store rather than via an OS update is very exciting. Much more exciting than a white N3 or a N7 with a HD screen.
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Old 16-05-2013, 13:25
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You're not wrong. good spot.
Elementary my dear flagpole. The catamite in question telegraphs his presence by the use of the underscore. That and the typical trollish language.
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Old 16-05-2013, 13:45
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I think a major point is being missed here. What Google essentially did was tackle Android "fragmentation" head on at this I/O.

All the features announced should have realistically meant Android 4.3. They updated all the main areas of the OS, Google Play, a slew of new cutting edge APIs, update to Google Now, Google+, Maps, Google Play and more, all without introducing a new version and creating any more confusion.

The most interesting part of this of course was Samsung joining AOSP. Sony is already a part of it and I really think there's more to come there, I think the update situation is going to change a lot.

I do think that an updated Nexus 7 and 32GB Nexus 4 exist, but they've obviously held them back for a later announcement, these devices are nearly always launched alongside a new Android version.

In the past, Google was updating Android very quickly, 2/3 times a year, which created a fragmented landscape. By not announcing any new Android version at I/O they are effectively curbing the problem. I wouldn't be surprised if they switched to a 1 year release cycle for Android now.

A lack of hardware was the only disappointment, but Google never promised any hardware at I/O, Sundar even said that there would not be many major product announcements. What Google have been working clearly isn't ready yet/delayed. But they have definitely been working on something and I do think that there will be a major hardware announcement somewhere down the line along with the next version of Android.
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Old 16-05-2013, 17:02
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Lots of shiny software goodness. Just the Google + changes are impressive enough IMHO.
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Old 16-05-2013, 19:05
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They did announce some decent stuff though. An update to Google Maps, the music streaming service
I would imagine, if previous experience with such services is anything to go by that the music streaming service will be a long time coming to the UK because of the licensing problems.
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Old 16-05-2013, 19:11
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Google are too busy trying hide the fact they have allegedly scammed the UK out of 100's of millions in tax to worry about promoting Android. Anyone watch the Google Vice President squirming on Sky news?

I wonder if Android will face a public back lash like Starbucks did and people start to boycott it. Due to the fact they have potentially cost the UK 100's of jobs.
What you may have missed is the lady from HMRC telling the MPs to stop talking S&!* and change the law (you know what they are responsible for) if they have such as problem with the tax system.
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Old 16-05-2013, 19:17
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I think a major point is being missed here. What Google essentially did was tackle Android "fragmentation" head on at this I/O.
The release cycle was changed in Google I/O 2012
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Old 16-05-2013, 19:18
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What you may have missed is the lady from HMRC telling the MPs to stop talking S&!* and change the law (you know what they are responsible for) if they have such as problem with the tax system.
Your right. It is a shame companies ignore their moral obligations so the best way to deal with it is to change the laws.
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Old 16-05-2013, 19:22
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The release cycle was changed in Google I/O 2012
Google might be in control of the release cycle, but fragmentation is out of their hands. In the O2 shop today there was a group of samsung and Sony phones running gb, ics and JB.
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Old 16-05-2013, 20:19
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Google might be in control of the release cycle, but fragmentation is out of their hands. In the O2 shop today there was a group of samsung and Sony phones running gb, ics and JB.
I've not seen any device running 2.3 released this year by Samsung or Sony? Which device was this?
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Old 16-05-2013, 20:21
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Not a damp squib at all. The stuff they announced around Maps was superb, Google+ redesign is excellent and their new photo tools look very exciting.

IO rarely announces hardware - broken by the N7 last year - and given the N4 has only been out for months, I never believed there'd be an update. The only odd thing was lack of Android bump, and 4.3 has certainly been seen in the wild. So I suspect something has delayed it.
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Old 16-05-2013, 20:23
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I've not seen any device running 2.3 released this year by Samsung or Sony? Which device was this?
Why do you think it needs to be released this year. I said phones on sale.

It was the galaxy ace 2, the very phone next to me right now.
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