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Results:Should the government legislate for all tins to have ring pulls?
Yes
43 (58.11%)
No
31 (41.89%)
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Should ring pulls be compulsory on tins?
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Meilie
20-05-2013
I mean really, one scarcely believes that in 2013, we are still grappling with tin openers. It's adjacent to barbarity.

It's high time the government legislated to ban the production of conventional tins and made ring pulls mandatory across the board.
Orangemaid
20-05-2013
I hate the ring pulls on tins..Sometimes they even break . other times i have to get a knife or summat to prise it up to pull lol
Chizzleface
20-05-2013
Ring pulls can be just as dangerous as tin openers - imagine giving one a really good yank (giggity) and the lid then slicing your thumb open as it comes off...there's probably no really truly safe way to open a tin without risk - after all, there'll be sharp metal edges either way.
big brother 9
20-05-2013
yes they should and they should be resealable
cassius_west
20-05-2013
Originally Posted by Meilie:
“Should ring pulls be compulsory on tins?”

I hope not; I wouldn't get to use my mega-awesome Kuhn Rikon tin opener. It's an amazing bit of kit. Easy to use and leaves no sharp edges.

Not only that but as someone has already said, those ring-pulls can be a bloody pain in the butt sometimes. Either when you can't get a hold of the ring itself and have to use a knife to lift it up slightly or the razor-sharp edge of the lid. And as for trying to open my little tins of mackerel in tomato sauce? You know, with the ring-pull lids? NIGHT.....MARE!!! When you peel those buggers back you have to stop short of going all the way, because the resultant 'Ping' will splatter you with fishy juice otherwise!

[/rant]
Meilie
20-05-2013
Originally Posted by big brother 9:
“yes they should and they should be resealable”

What an excellent idea. I will mention this to my MP when I show him the results of the poll.

Originally Posted by cassius_west:
“And as for trying to open my little tins of mackerel in tomato sauce? You know, with the ring-pull lids? NIGHT.....MARE!!! When you peel those buggers back you have to stop short of going all the way, because the resultant 'Ping' will splatter you with fishy juice otherwise!

[/rant]”

Indeed, a nightmarish quandary, but one that I'm glad to say is easily overcomeable by allowing the juices to drain before peeling back the lid.
sixtynine
20-05-2013
No, I struggle with some ring pulls.
noise747
20-05-2013
I tend to use my tin opener even if they got the rings, well i did until I lost it. got another one today, a magican, £6, never paid that much for a tin opener before, but it looks good.

As for being resealable, you can buy lids that fit on the top, but you should never leave stuff in cans anyway once they are opened.
neo_wales
20-05-2013
Originally Posted by Meilie:
“I mean really, one scarcely believes that in 2013, we are still grappling with tin openers. It's adjacent to barbarity.

It's high time the government legislated to ban the production of conventional tins and made ring pulls mandatory across the board.”

Your view is a tad extreme, if the ring pull works (and it does the vast majority of the time) fine, if not use an opener. Why ban conventional tins, at a guess they are cheaper to produce hence less environmental impact?

Ring pull work fine though and to be honest I'd not base a 'buy' on whether the can had a ring pull.

That said, I think this post could well be a wind up.
manickangaroo
20-05-2013
The worst are tin with keys.. Sometimes it goes wonky when halfway open and even if it opens okay you still often can't get the corned beef or Spam out.
noise747
20-05-2013
Originally Posted by manickangaroo:
“The worst are tin with keys.. Sometimes it goes wonky when halfway open and even if it opens okay you still often can't get the corned beef or Spam out.”

Those are worse, which is why when I got my original tin opener i made sure it worked on them.

i know this new one does as well, because it opens the tins at the edge, not the top.
frankie_baby
20-05-2013
Considering the times we are in surely they should be banned? That extra bit of metal might not seem like much but across all the tin cans used in the world it must add up to a hefty waste of metal especially as the tops are even more likely to end up in the rubbish not the recycling
noise747
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by frankie_baby:
“Considering the times we are in surely they should be banned? That extra bit of metal might not seem like much but across all the tin cans used in the world it must add up to a hefty waste of metal especially as the tops are even more likely to end up in the rubbish not the recycling”

i think there is more to worry about in waste than a little bit of metal on a tin lid.
neo_wales
21-05-2013
Those couple of grammes multiplied by the millions of tins used mount up.
roddydogs
21-05-2013
Theirs no problem with ring pulls if you do the following..........lift the ring pull and bend back as far as you can,BEFORE you try to open the lid!! this breaks the seal, and will open easily.

Its only the Budget stuff that dosent have a ring pull, making it compulsory wall add a few P to each can.
Smokeychan1
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by frankie_baby:
“Considering the times we are in surely they should be banned? That extra bit of metal might not seem like much but across all the tin cans used in the world it must add up to a hefty waste of metal especially as the tops are even more likely to end up in the rubbish not the recycling”

And just what do you think tin openers are made of?
frankie_baby
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“And just what do you think tin openers are made of?”

One tin opener will (in theory) open hundreds if not thousands of tins
frankie_baby
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by neo_wales:
“Those couple of grammes multiplied by the millions of tins used mount up.”

Billions of tins
noise747
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by neo_wales:
“Those couple of grammes multiplied by the millions of tins used mount up.”

Yeah, but I thought everyone was suppose to recycle these days, certainly in towns/cities where you get fined for putting a bit of paper in the wrong bin.

So in theory, it should not matter.

Saying that I prefer them to not bother at all and then we can use a tin opener. i know of someone who can't open these tins as they got limited use of their hands, so they need a electric tin opener, the problem is these ring pulls gets in the way and jam the tin opener.

So what may make it easier for me and you, makes it more difficult for some disabled people. His care worker have to pull the rings off his cans, making sure they don't open.
frankie_baby
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by noise747:
“Yeah, but I thought everyone was suppose to recycle these days, certainly in towns/cities where you get fined for putting a bit of paper in the wrong bin.

So in theory, it should not matter.

Saying that I prefer them to not bother at all and then we can use a tin opener. i know of someone who can't open these tins as they got limited use of their hands, so they need a electric tin opener, the problem is these ring pulls gets in the way and jam the tin opener.

So what may make it easier for me and you, makes it more difficult for some disabled people. His care worker have to pull the rings off his cans, making sure they don't open.”

tin lids are usually supposed to go into the recycling
noise747
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by frankie_baby:
“One tin opener will (in theory) open hundreds if not thousands of tins”

Yes, as long as you don't lose it iI think mine may have fallen into a rubbish bag, I can't find it anywhere. oh well,I needed a new one anyway, the old one was getting a bit grubby
neo_wales
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by noise747:
“Yeah, but I thought everyone was suppose to recycle these days, certainly in towns/cities where you get fined for putting a bit of paper in the wrong bin.

So in theory, it should not matter.

Saying that I prefer them to not bother at all and then we can use a tin opener. i know of someone who can't open these tins as they got limited use of their hands, so they need a electric tin opener, the problem is these ring pulls gets in the way and jam the tin opener.

So what may make it easier for me and you, makes it more difficult for some disabled people. His care worker have to pull the rings off his cans, making sure they don't open.”

Every little helps though.

Buy your friend with hand problems a ring pull opener, there are lots available for people with problems, you can get them for a couple of pounds on ebay. If they use an electric can opener he or she should have no problems using one of these openers, helps promote their independent living skills etc.
sarahj1986
21-05-2013
I brought a lovely tin of soup for my lunch at work afew weeks ago, went up to the kitchen to heat it up....no tin opener
Paulie Walnuts
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by noise747:
“I tend to use my tin opener even if they got the rings, well i did until I lost it. got another one today, a magican, £6, never paid that much for a tin opener before, but it looks good.

As for being resealable, you can buy lids that fit on the top, but you should never leave stuff in cans anyway once they are opened.”

That's just an old wife's tale. Leaving stuff in cans for a reasonable length of time is perfectly harmless, you'll get no contamination from the can itself.
Solo Marble
22-05-2013
Yes, I certainly think that they should! They would also benefit the elderly immensely, especially if they have got arthritis!
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