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Vodafone UK Results Jan-Mar 2013
japaul
21-05-2013
Vodafone UK results for 12/13 Q4 (January-March 2013). Note that Vodafone's year runs from April - March so 12/13 Q4 is Jan-Mar 2013, 12/13 Q3 is Oct-Dec 2012 and 11/12 Q4 is Jan-Mar 2012. The data doesn't include Cable & Wireless Worldwide.
http://www.vodafone.com/content/inde...march2013.html

Service revenue: £1188m (12/13 Q3: £1210m, 11/12 Q4: £1253m)

Mobile Customers (Total): 19.221m (12/13 Q3: 19.544m, 11/12 Q4: 19.167m)
Mobile Customers (Prepaid): 8.116m (12/13 Q3: 8.521m, 11/12 Q4: 8.855m)
Mobile Customers (Contract): 11.105m (12/13 Q3: 11.023m, 11/12 Q4: 10.312m)

Smartphone penetration: 55.7% (12/13 Q3: 53.3%, 11/12 Q4: 44.4%)


EE results for same period in this post http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...=#post65527138

O2 results for same period in this post http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...=#post65759275
Everything Goes
21-05-2013
Fall in revenue. Customer numbers are a bit up and down each quarter for Vodaphone. Still following the general trend of all networks with more Smartphone users and less Pay As You Go subscribers, probably upgrading to contracts.
Everything Goes
21-05-2013
EE 2013 Quarter 1

Mobile service revenue: £1422m (2012 Q4: £1467m, 2012 Q1: £1503m)
Mobile Customers (Total):25.742m (2012 Q4: 26.148m, 2012 Q1: 26.491m)
Mobile Customers (Postpaid): 13.759m (2012 Q4: 13.594m, 2012 Q1: 12.993m)
Mobile Customers (Prepaid): 11.983m (2012 Q4: 12.554m, 2012 Q1: 13.498m)


O2 2013 Q1

Mobile service revenue: £1174m (2012 Q4: £1202m, 2012 Q1: £1266m)
Mobile Customers (Total): 22.910m (2012 Q4: 22.864m, 2012 Q1: 22.325m)
Mobile Customers (Prepay): 10.758m (2012 Q4: 10.963m, 2012 Q1: 11.163m)
Mobile Customers (Contract): 12.152m (2012 Q4: 11.901m, 2012 Q1: 11.163m)
Smartphone penetration: 47% (2012 Q4: 45%, 2012 Q1: 41%)

Vodafone 2013 Q1

Service revenue: £1188m (12/13 Q3: £1210m, 11/12 Q4: £1253m)
Mobile Customers (Total): 19.221m (12/13 Q3: 19.544m, 11/12 Q4: 19.167m)
Mobile Customers (Prepaid): 8.116m (12/13 Q3: 8.521m, 11/12 Q4: 8.855m)
Mobile Customers (Contract): 11.105m (12/13 Q3: 11.023m, 11/12 Q4: 10.312m)
Smartphone penetration: 55.7% (12/13 Q3: 53.3%, 11/12 Q4: 44.4%)
clonmult
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“Fall in revenue. Customer numbers are a bit up and down each quarter for Vodaphone. Still following the general trend of all networks with more Smartphone users and less Pay As You Go subscribers, probably upgrading to contracts.”

Vodaphone doesn't exist. I guess you mean Vodafone?

Can't be bothered to drag out the calc, but the figures imply higher ARPU for Vodafone. Which is likely a good thing.

C&WW won't come into the figures as such, the business is being fully integrated into the relevant parts of Vodafone (Enterprise, UK, etc.)
Thine Wonk
21-05-2013
Interesting that Vodafone have quite a bit more smartphone customers. O2's has got to be the lowest % in the UK, indicating that their customers aren't as tech savvy.
enapace
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Interesting that Vodafone have quite a bit more smartphone customers. O2's has got to be the lowest % in the UK, indicating that their customers aren't as tech savvy.”

Think that has been pretty obvious for years honestly. It reason why they can get away with such a crap 3G network as most of there customers can't use anyway properly.
clonmult
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Interesting that Vodafone have quite a bit more smartphone customers. O2's has got to be the lowest % in the UK, indicating that their customers aren't as tech savvy.”

Wonder what the smartphone breakdown is between payg and contract?

Regardless of that, surprised that it isn't higher - if you call into any store (regardless of network), all they seem to have in stock (or promote) is smartphones.
gardensleeper
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by enapace:
“Think that has been pretty obvious for years honestly. It reason why they can get away with such a crap 3G network as most of there customers can't use anyway properly.”

Compare the coverage maps. Now o2 has rolled out a significant amount of 3g 900 they've got greater geographic coverage compared to Vodafone.

Of course they both pale into insignificance compared to MBNL's 3g coverage. Let's hope Cornerstone sorts that.
enapace
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by gardensleeper:
“Compare the coverage maps. Now o2 has rolled out a significant amount of 3g 900 they've got greater geographic coverage compared to Vodafone.

Of course they both pale into insignificance compared to MBNL's 3g coverage. Let's hope Cornerstone sorts that.”

True they have but I at this point I would still wouldn't recommend anyone to O2 or Vodafone I would tell them go EE or Three.
Everything Goes
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by clonmult:
“Vodaphone doesn't exist. I guess you mean Vodafone?
”

Yes teacher

Make 1 typo and its the end of the world
Everything Goes
21-05-2013
More analysis:

Quote:
“Vodafone reports profits across the half year rather than quarterly and while its performance for the second half of the 2013 financial year improved from £589m to £620m sequentially, earnings before interest, debt and amortisation fell 6.2% on 2012.

Like rivals, the operator is keen to move customers onto more lucractive contracts and it added 75,000 customers to postpay during the quarter. This was down on the 93,000 customers it added in Q4 2012. However, there was an exodus from prepay, with the operator losing 398,000 customers during the quarter. This resulted in customer numbers shrinking by 323,000 to 19.2m.

While Vodafone is trying to swell its contract base, it is also doing so at a cost. Average revenue per user was £19.90 during the quarter, down from £20.30 in Q3. Contract ARPU also dropped 2.18% to £31.30 during the quarter. This is a shallower decline compared to its rivals with O2 seeing its contract ARPU drop 11.5% and EE's fall 7.4% during their most recent trading quarters.”

http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/News/25...y_decline.aspx
japaul
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by clonmult:
“Wonder what the smartphone breakdown is between payg and contract?
”

Unfortunately nobody provides a split but payg is far lower than contract. As a guide, EE only provide smartphone penetration for their contract base and in the same period it was 82% but without knowing what it is across the total base we can't really compare. The only comparable numbers are O2 and Vodafone. 3 don't give any smartphone penetration numbers.
Everything Goes
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by japaul:
“Unfortunately nobody provides a split but payg is far lower than contract. As a guide, EE only provide smartphone penetration for their contract base and in the same period it was 82% but without knowing what it is across the total base we can't really compare. The only comparable numbers are O2 and Vodafone. 3 don't give any smartphone penetration numbers.”



There is no doubt a skew towards Contract customers owning smartphones across all networks. Im guessing EE's 82% will be pretty typical.

However I expect Three to have considerably higher Smartphone penetration across Pay As You Go and Contract customers. Probably +90% for Contract and Pay As You Go customers. Unlike the traditional older networks they really don't cater for older less tech savy customers.

They only have one Feature phone the Nokia C2-01.

http://store.three.co.uk/view/produc...priceplan=PAYG
wavejockglw
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by enapace:
“True they have but I at this point I would still wouldn't recommend anyone to O2 or Vodafone I would tell them go EE or Three.”

But the vast majority of the population live in cities where all of the networks have plenty of 3G coverage so in fact for most the choice of network makes little difference. Root Metrics have tested lots of big cities and whilst there are differences they are often minimal in terms of the average user's requirements.

Best advice for anyone is to check the coverage with others who live and work in the area where they want to use their mobile phone.

I have no doubt the usual suspects (who are on my ignore list) will spin some nonsense below to suggest otherwise but the fact is where most folks live in cities and major towns (the UK population is based in built-up areas, not in rural places) there is plenty of 3G from all the UK networks and that is why all of the UK networks are finding it increasingly difficult to migrate customers.
Thine Wonk
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“But the vast majority of the population live in cities where all of the networks have plenty of 3G coverage so in fact for most the choice of network makes little difference. Root Metrics have tested lots of big cities and whilst there are differences they are often minimal in terms of the average user's requirements.

Best advice for anyone is to check the coverage with others who live and work in the area where they want to use their mobile phone.”

They don't actually, the majority live in the suburbs or in towns throughout England, Scotland and Wales. There are some big cities, but the majority of our population are on the outskirts of cities or in towns and villages throughout the country.

Many people in smaller towns, as much as 10 million people don't get 3G from O2.

You also forget it's a 'mobile' phone, so it doesn't matter if somebody lives in Birmingham, the chances are they will travel and want to use their phone in a country hotel or when visiting smaller towns or tourist locations or when travelling. Go outside of a city and you don't get a sniff of 3G on O2.
Everything Goes
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“But the vast majority of the population live in cities where all of the networks have plenty of 3G coverage so in fact for most the choice of network makes little difference. Root Metrics have tested lots of big cities and whilst there are differences they are often minimal in terms of the average user's requirements.

Best advice for anyone is to check the coverage with others who live and work in the area where they want to use their mobile phone.”

The UK populations is 63 Million and only approximately 27 million live in cities.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/gre...2-million.html

http://www.ukcities.co.uk/populations/
Thine Wonk
21-05-2013
Sorry I know somebody will say I miss Northern Ireland, my apologies!
enapace
21-05-2013
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“They don't actually, the majority live in the suburbs or in towns throughout England, Scotland and Wales. There are some big cities, but the majority of our population are on the outskirts of cities or in towns and villages throughout the country.

Many people in smaller towns, as much as 10 million people don't get 3G from O2.

You also forget it's a 'mobile' phone, so it doesn't matter if somebody lives in Birmingham, the chances are they will travel and want to use their phone in a country hotel or when visiting smaller towns or tourist locations or when travelling. Go outside of a city and you don't get a sniff of 3G on O2.”

Also even on a daily basis I use my phone as a sat nav system with traffic updates I can't imagine I am the only person and how many motor ways are in big cities not many or side roads so it would be unusable. Yes you probably don't need massive speeds in rural areas to survive but you at least need a constant 3G signal. In fairness though O2's 900 3G has become more wide spread.
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