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Old 22-05-2013, 19:20
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Lets be honest eastenders at the momant is a disaster.
Rays exit looks to be a complete joke. Over the next month once again it will be all to do with the Branings again with Laurens drunk Tanyas exit and the Kirsty baby situation.
The problem i have is LN is not taking any risk just dull long storylines dragging.As bad as Brian Kirkwood was lets be honest he took risk even if they didnt work. I hated the baby swap storyline didnt agree but he took a chance lets give him that bit of credit plus i really liked the ben killed heather story. I just think changes are needed if eastenders are to move forward and get better ratings.
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:25
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I just think Lorraine Newman should be sacked, I've defended her in the past but watching Stacey's Bipolar storyline and now.... The difference is REALLY noticeable
I hated Kirkwood's work on the Soap, but at least he did a bit of clear-out when he came into it, something Newman hasn't done
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:35
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Well Ray's exit is pretty believable.

In most soaps, when they want to axe a character/actor wants to leave, they usually have them killed in a big disaster, which isn't very believable.

But EE isn't good at the moment, something does need to be done.
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:37
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It get's better! In a few weeks Bobby gets a new pet that Poppy lets loose in Dot's house
Amazing stuff coming up.
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:40
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It get's better! In a few weeks Bobby gets a new pet that Poppy lets loose in Dot's house
Amazing stuff coming up.
I'm getting soooooooo exicted at the thought,
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:40
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Hopefully the writing is on the wall for Lorraine Newman...
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:42
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Thats just answerd my own statement lol.
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:43
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Whats the betting that Bobby's new pet gets a appreciation thread?
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:46
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I'll reserve judgement on LN until later on in the year, as it's still too soon to judge really. A lot of her s/lines at the moment have yet to play out and the only things I'd criticize her for so far that are of any relevance are the 'Who Shagged Kat' s/line, another Max-women s/line in Kirsty, the dreadful gangland saga in relation to Liam and a rather poorly written return for Sharon to date, the latter of which I think will improve, now that it's got a bit of an edge to it re the pills addiction s/line and with it she's now going to be away from her unrealistic and rapid "love in" with all things Brannings!

While some EP's have an immediate impact (such as Santer), some such as LN may need more time to bed in. The whole dynamic of Kirkwood's 2010-2012 EP reign was destroyed by the premature abandonment of the babyswap s/line midway through of course and anything else that followed was effectively by default and therefore rather weak...... while Santer's 'near end' time was effectively blunted and arguably brought to an unwitting, premature end when he and Treadwell-Collins decided the potentially magical Ronielle s/line should be ended in a bad way by Danielle killing off!
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:52
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Lorraine was second in command during Kirkwood's era. It's clear she has no idea what is wrong with the show. Fresh eyes are needed.

She has been in this position for 15 months now. How long does she need?
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:54
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they need to cut down on the brannings screentime
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Old 22-05-2013, 19:59
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I'll reserve judgement on LN until later on in the year, as it's still too soon to judge really. A lot of her s/lines at the moment have yet to play out and the only things I'd criticize her for so far that are of any relevance are the 'Who Shagged Kat' s/line, another Max-women s/line in Kirsty, the dreadful gangland saga in relation to Liam and a rather poorly written return for Sharon to date, the latter of which I think will improve, now that it's got a bit of an edge to it re the pills addiction s/line and with it she's now going to be away from her unrealistic and rapid "love in" with all things Brannings!

While some EP's have an immediate impact (such as Santer), some such as LN may need more time to bed in. The whole dynamic of Kirkwood's 2010-2012 EP reign was destroyed by the premature abandonment of the babyswap s/line midway through of course and anything else that followed was effectively by default and therefore rather weak...... while Santer's 'near end' time was effectively blunted and arguably brought to an unwitting, premature end when he and Treadwell-Collins decided the potentially magical Ronielle s/line should be ended in a bad way by Danielle killing off!
We can't still be saying its too soon to judge. Didn't she start "acting" in March last year?! She knew the flaws and a decent executive producer would have sorted it out immediately or made the best if what she had. She has done neither. Some of the episodes are entertaining but the fact that there are no big plots at all yet just shows a complete lack of understanding about what is needed.

Face it - Lorraine thinks this is acceptable! She probably thinks its entertaining!
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Old 22-05-2013, 20:04
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Also shes said plenty of times now theres a majour storyline coming up. Im sorry but shes been in charge over a year now and im still waiting.
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Old 22-05-2013, 20:21
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Do we need ANOTHER thread on this?

As for Ray's exit, what do people expect? A non-character to have an explosive departure? Moving away to spend time with his family is hardly unrealistic.

I'll be interested to see what happens over the next few months in wake of the soap awards and in fairness some of the stuff coming up sounds half decent. The show just needs a couple of gripping storylines.
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Old 22-05-2013, 20:23
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We can't still be saying its too soon to judge. Didn't she start "acting" in March last year?! She knew the flaws and a decent executive producer would have sorted it out immediately or made the best if what she had. She has done neither. Some of the episodes are entertaining but the fact that there are no big plots at all yet just shows a complete lack of understanding about what is needed.

Face it - Lorraine thinks this is acceptable! She probably thinks its entertaining!
Granted, she might have had 'x' amount of time in charge by now, possibly over a year but I think during the early part of her 2012 tenure that it was still Kirkwood's s/lines that were taking up centre stage at the time, even up until last Autumn time or so - although correct me if I'm wrong.

While there have been no 'big plots' to speak of for as long as I can remember now either, hopefully some of the current ones bubbling under will add a bit of long overdue excitement to proceedings. It does seem to be lots of small time stories going on at present though I admit, with the consequences of all of them being soon forgotten about and leading to nothing or at the most with outcomes pending - Kat-Alfie, Michael-Janine, etc, etc.......
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Old 22-05-2013, 20:25
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Ray isn't a big character like Kat, Ian for example, hence why he isn't getting a big exit. We have Ronnie coming back, Tanya's and Jack's exit, plus Michael's, which I think will be really good.
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Old 22-05-2013, 20:36
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Adam is new on here bumpandgrind and this is his first thread so go easy on him...
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Old 22-05-2013, 20:43
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Lets be honest eastenders at the momant is a disaster.
Rays exit looks to be a complete joke. Over the next month once again it will be all to do with the Branings again with Laurens drunk Tanyas exit and the Kirsty baby situation.
The problem i have is LN is not taking any risk just dull long storylines dragging.As bad as Brian Kirkwood was lets be honest he took risk even if they didnt work. I hated the baby swap storyline didnt agree but he took a chance lets give him that bit of credit plus i really liked the ben killed heather story. I just think changes are needed if eastenders are to move forward and get better ratings.
Hey, I'm on my phone at the moment,
would you be able to start a POLL on "should Lorraine Newman get axed"
I want to see numbers!
Then daily mirror might quote this and will get LN's attention!
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Old 22-05-2013, 20:49
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I'll reserve judgement on LN until later on in the year, as it's still too soon to judge really. A lot of her s/lines at the moment have yet to play out and the only things I'd criticize her for so far that are of any relevance are the 'Who Shagged Kat' s/line, another Max-women s/line in Kirsty, the dreadful gangland saga in relation to Liam and a rather poorly written return for Sharon to date, the latter of which I think will improve, now that it's got a bit of an edge to it re the pills addiction s/line and with it she's now going to be away from her unrealistic and rapid "love in" with all things Brannings!

While some EP's have an immediate impact (such as Santer), some such as LN may need more time to bed in. The whole dynamic of Kirkwood's 2010-2012 EP reign was destroyed by the premature abandonment of the babyswap s/line midway through of course and anything else that followed was effectively by default and therefore rather weak...... while Santer's 'near end' time was effectively blunted and arguably brought to an unwitting, premature end when he and Treadwell-Collins decided the potentially magical Ronielle s/line should be ended in a bad way by Danielle killing off!
Lorraine said in an interview they plan the storylines 8-9 months in advance so the storylines what we are seeing now were planned in August/September and some of them before so maybe Lorraine thought the audience would like them. Lorraine didn't know the audience would be switching off just like Diederick Santer didn't know that Tanya burying Max alive would get alot of complaints and Bryan Kirkwood didn't know that the Baby Swap storyline would get alot of complaints and Louise Berridge didn't know the Ferreira's were going to be unpopular with the viewers and she didn't know the onscreen dad was going to be deported if all Bryan Kirkwood could see into the future then Im sure he wouldn't of done the Baby Swap storyline and if Louise Berridge could see into the future Im sure she would of casted someone else to play the father of the Ferreira's and if Dederick Santer and Simon Ashdown could see into the future Im sure they wouldn't of had Tanya bury Max alive the EPs are not mind readers if they storyline in 8-9 months in advance
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Old 22-05-2013, 21:23
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I really hope Lorraine leaves asap
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Old 22-05-2013, 21:49
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I'm getting soooooooo exicted at the thought,
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Old 22-05-2013, 21:55
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It get's better! In a few weeks Bobby gets a new pet that Poppy lets loose in Dot's house
Amazing stuff coming up.
and i bet Dot will be crouched on a chair saying..oohh i say
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Old 22-05-2013, 22:22
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I think we should wait until 2015 before passing judgment on LN stories, give her time to bed in when her storylines to start appearing on screen.

No but seroiusly if its doesn't pick up, which i very much doubt it will, then ratings will continue to drop. Particularly during Summer. Yesterday EE was at 6.7 million, i don't think it will go above 7million again until much later in the year.
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Old 22-05-2013, 22:58
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Starting a poll asking if someone should be sacked is horrendous. Seriously? How old are some of you?
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Old 22-05-2013, 23:01
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I'll reserve judgement on LN until later on in the year, as it's still too soon to judge really. A lot of her s/lines at the moment have yet to play out and the only things I'd criticize her for so far that are of any relevance are the 'Who Shagged Kat' s/line, another Max-women s/line in Kirsty, the dreadful gangland saga in relation to Liam and a rather poorly written return for Sharon to date, the latter of which I think will improve, now that it's got a bit of an edge to it re the pills addiction s/line and with it she's now going to be away from her unrealistic and rapid "love in" with all things Brannings!

While some EP's have an immediate impact (such as Santer), some such as LN may need more time to bed in. The whole dynamic of Kirkwood's 2010-2012 EP reign was destroyed by the premature abandonment of the babyswap s/line midway through of course and anything else that followed was effectively by default and therefore rather weak...... while Santer's 'near end' time was effectively blunted and arguably brought to an unwitting, premature end when he and Treadwell-Collins decided the potentially magical Ronielle s/line should be ended in a bad way by Danielle killing off!
Too soon to judge, over a year in the job and clearly Incompetent she has no idea what she is doing.
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