Who did you think would win Tom? Were you pleased it was Aaron?
Question and Answers to Thomas who was in BB12
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Great thread by the way - as you may have gathered, we are all (well most!) really avid fans of BB on here!
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“Hey Tom, good luck with the Uni thing, I thought you were a great housemate and loved you and Faye in the house you had some great moments.
Halloween Noms, could you explain what happened in chronological order. The whole thing seems to have been edited within an inch of it's life. It's a big mess that no one can really understand.
Also why did you all get so cross with Aaron, it was pretty obvious they (BB) were never going to let you guys ensure you were all up, and he wasn't the only one to go against the plan?
One last Q If they didn't have halloween noms who would you have voted for? We saw you have discussions with Jay and Aaron about noms in the run up to Halloween and I think popular opinion on here was that you'd have stuck with Aaron and Faye and voted Jay and Lou.”
“Hey Tom, good luck with the Uni thing, I thought you were a great housemate and loved you and Faye in the house you had some great moments.
Halloween Noms, could you explain what happened in chronological order. The whole thing seems to have been edited within an inch of it's life. It's a big mess that no one can really understand.
Also why did you all get so cross with Aaron, it was pretty obvious they (BB) were never going to let you guys ensure you were all up, and he wasn't the only one to go against the plan?
One last Q If they didn't have halloween noms who would you have voted for? We saw you have discussions with Jay and Aaron about noms in the run up to Halloween and I think popular opinion on here was that you'd have stuck with Aaron and Faye and voted Jay and Lou.”
Thanks! I enjoyed Faye's company quite often.
Previous to Halloween nominations, it was decided we should all be up, in the interest of fairness. We sat in our seats outside and began to nominate. The plan was for everyone to keep a tally, to ensure we were all up. At the end, I think Louise voted last and BB said the votes did not count as we were trying to influence the outcome (or something to that effect). Then we were reseated. To try and achieve the same outcome, I switched my votes. Then the others followed suit (or tried to). Obviously Aaron changed his mind and then Louise reacted.
Louise went against the plan but only due Aaron's deviance in the first place. I think she reasoned that if he didn't stick to the group's plan then why should she nominate the people she likes (Jay, Alex and I). I think for me I was just irritated at the lack of loyalty. All that week Aaron had said I'd never nominate you etc. In the aftermath, he took Alex and I aside and said he didn't think we should be up. Then he said he would have voted for me anyway. So I called him up on his contradiction and lack of loyalty. Points I felt were valid.
I don't think I can answer without the power of hindsight and thus bias. Both Aaron and Jay made the last week miserable so I would vote them. However, I doubt I would have chosen those 2 inside.
Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“Who did you think would win Tom? Were you pleased it was Aaron?”
“Who did you think would win Tom? Were you pleased it was Aaron?”
I thought Alex or Aaron. I was upset Alex didn't win but I always said if Alex didn't I wanted Aaron too
Originally Posted by farscape:
“Really? I doubt many would have thought that. We had numerous polls to tell us who was popular.
Despite BOTS trying throw us off by trying to convince us certain HMs were more popular than they were and some were unpopular when they weren't we pretty much knew the placings. The only questionmarks were Alex, she was accepted as the frontrunner from early on for no other reason than being the "type" but her fanbase was never actualy tested and whether Jay's fans were as numerous as they were noisy.
Again, airtime isn't that important. Most winners have not recieved the lions share of airtime.”
“Really? I doubt many would have thought that. We had numerous polls to tell us who was popular.
Despite BOTS trying throw us off by trying to convince us certain HMs were more popular than they were and some were unpopular when they weren't we pretty much knew the placings. The only questionmarks were Alex, she was accepted as the frontrunner from early on for no other reason than being the "type" but her fanbase was never actualy tested and whether Jay's fans were as numerous as they were noisy.
Again, airtime isn't that important. Most winners have not recieved the lions share of airtime.”
With your last point I agree. However, airtime is required to generate support and thus the chance to win
Originally Posted by starry:
“Did you know there was no live stream when in the house and were you disappointed when you found out?”
“Did you know there was no live stream when in the house and were you disappointed when you found out?”
I think months before I'd read there would probably be no live feed. As I didn't really read into BB, I didn't understand the ramifications a lack of live feed can have on viewers understanding of you
Originally Posted by Thomas_OConnell:
“Thanks! I enjoyed Faye's company quite often.
Previous to Halloween nominations, it was decided we should all be up, in the interest of fairness. We sat in our seats outside and began to nominate. The plan was for everyone to keep a tally, to ensure we were all up. At the end, I think Louise voted last and BB said the votes did not count as we were trying to influence the outcome (or something to that effect). Then we were reseated. To try and achieve the same outcome, I switched my votes. Then the others followed suit (or tried to). Obviously Aaron changed his mind and then Louise reacted.
Louise went against the plan but only due Aaron's deviance in the first place. I think she reasoned that if he didn't stick to the group's plan then why should she nominate the people she likes (Jay, Alex and I). I think for me I was just irritated at the lack of loyalty. All that week Aaron had said I'd never nominate you etc. In the aftermath, he took Alex and I aside and said he didn't think we should be up. Then he said he would have voted for me anyway. So I called him up on his contradiction and lack of loyalty. Points I felt were valid.”
“Thanks! I enjoyed Faye's company quite often.
Previous to Halloween nominations, it was decided we should all be up, in the interest of fairness. We sat in our seats outside and began to nominate. The plan was for everyone to keep a tally, to ensure we were all up. At the end, I think Louise voted last and BB said the votes did not count as we were trying to influence the outcome (or something to that effect). Then we were reseated. To try and achieve the same outcome, I switched my votes. Then the others followed suit (or tried to). Obviously Aaron changed his mind and then Louise reacted.
Louise went against the plan but only due Aaron's deviance in the first place. I think she reasoned that if he didn't stick to the group's plan then why should she nominate the people she likes (Jay, Alex and I). I think for me I was just irritated at the lack of loyalty. All that week Aaron had said I'd never nominate you etc. In the aftermath, he took Alex and I aside and said he didn't think we should be up. Then he said he would have voted for me anyway. So I called him up on his contradiction and lack of loyalty. Points I felt were valid.”
Louise was shown in the one of the fb vids admitting to Aaron privately that it was her choice to vote the way she did, that she would not be told who to nominate.
Was the group aware of this? At times it seemed as though you all weren't and thought she only broke the plan due to Aaron and other times you were all aware but didn't care. Also wasn't Louise's reason that she wanted to keep you and Alex together on your birthdays. Did you or anyone else call her out on that contradiction?
Also did yourself and Jay not also break script and nom who you wanted to? That seemed to be the case and while you two going first meant it didn't matter surely you could see how someone might think all bets are off.
Originally Posted by farscape:
“Louise was shown in the one of the fb vids admitting to Aaron privately that it was her choice to vote the way she did, that she would not be told who to nominate.
Was the group aware of this? At times it seemed as though you all weren't and thought she only broke the plan due to Aaron and other times you were all aware but didn't care. Also wasn't Louise's reason that she wanted to keep you and Alex together on your birthdays. Did you or anyone else call her out on that contradiction?
Also did yourself and Jay not also break script and nom who you wanted to? That seemed to be the case and while you two going first meant it didn't matter surely you could see how someone might think all bets are off.”
“Louise was shown in the one of the fb vids admitting to Aaron privately that it was her choice to vote the way she did, that she would not be told who to nominate.
Was the group aware of this? At times it seemed as though you all weren't and thought she only broke the plan due to Aaron and other times you were all aware but didn't care. Also wasn't Louise's reason that she wanted to keep you and Alex together on your birthdays. Did you or anyone else call her out on that contradiction?
Also did yourself and Jay not also break script and nom who you wanted to? That seemed to be the case and while you two going first meant it didn't matter surely you could see how someone might think all bets are off.”
As she said that following noms, I think she was saying "if Aarons voted how he wanted I will too." Had he not made the first move I highly doubt Louise would have deviated from the plan.
I just said two names, although it was easiest for me as I was first. Had I been third for example I would have still followed the plan. Also, during we were mouthing to each other so I think most were aware of the tally
What gave you the belief that Aaron had feelings for you?
Do you feel he led you on?
In hindsight, do you regret how you dealt with the situation?
As a viewer it seemed you had feelings for him and when he rejected you the toys came out the pram.
Do you feel he led you on?
In hindsight, do you regret how you dealt with the situation?
As a viewer it seemed you had feelings for him and when he rejected you the toys came out the pram.
Originally Posted by Oliver Loxton-P:
“What gave you the belief that Aaron had feelings for you?
Do you feel he led you on?
In hindsight, do you regret how you dealt with the situation?
As a viewer it seemed you had feelings for him and when he rejected you the toys came out the pram.”
“What gave you the belief that Aaron had feelings for you?
Do you feel he led you on?
In hindsight, do you regret how you dealt with the situation?
As a viewer it seemed you had feelings for him and when he rejected you the toys came out the pram.”
Aaron was flirting with Tom I don't know if it was part of his game plan or if he genuinely fancied him but he definitely flirted with him. That's why I never liked Aaron he played dirty
Originally Posted by Thomas_OConnell:
“As she said that following noms, I think she was saying "if Aarons voted how he wanted I will too." Had he not made the first move I highly doubt Louise would have deviated from the plan.
I just said two names, although it was easiest for me ac I was first. Had I been third for example I would have still followed the plan. Also, during we were mouthing to each other so I think most were aware of the tally”
“As she said that following noms, I think she was saying "if Aarons voted how he wanted I will too." Had he not made the first move I highly doubt Louise would have deviated from the plan.
I just said two names, although it was easiest for me ac I was first. Had I been third for example I would have still followed the plan. Also, during we were mouthing to each other so I think most were aware of the tally”
But Louise told Aaron in private it was her decision unmotivated by his actions. Are you suggesting she was lying to him?
My point was that the HM who nommed last had all the power. Even though you and Jay breaking the pattern first didn't matter it set the precedent of it happening. All it would take is Louise to come down with a convenient bout of confusion or forgetfulness and she could put up whoever she wanted.
Like I said no one seemed to question Louise's stories despite them not making sense either.
Originally Posted by Oliver Loxton-P:
“What gave you the belief that Aaron had feelings for you?
Do you feel he led you on?
In hindsight, do you regret how you dealt with the situation?
As a viewer it seemed you had feelings for him and when he rejected you the toys came out the pram.”
“What gave you the belief that Aaron had feelings for you?
Do you feel he led you on?
In hindsight, do you regret how you dealt with the situation?
As a viewer it seemed you had feelings for him and when he rejected you the toys came out the pram.”
Quite a few things at the time; I remember he made a really cryptic comment about "there's something I need to tell you but only when we get out" which struck me as odd. Also, he said something about me flirting with Anton or Aden which I found odd.
I do in terms of his "game" however I don't think he meant to hurt my feelings or be malicious towards me. However, I could have just read into it too much. In a situation like that you form strong bonds quickly and so can assume you have feelings that aren't really there. In the "real world" I wouldn't be attracted to him at all.
No I don't. After it all "came out" I wanted to say my piece, talk it out and forget. As a person, I dont hold onto grudges, I like to argue it out (if needed) then apologise. Aaron didn't which I thought was selfish so I reacted in anger.
Originally Posted by moleymo:
“That's why I never liked Aaron he played dirty”
“That's why I never liked Aaron he played dirty”
But you stick up for Jay plenty of times and he played much dirtier. Both literaly and figuratively.
Originally Posted by farscape:
“But Louise told Aaron in private it was her decision unmotivated by his actions. Are you suggesting she was lying to him?
My point was that the HM who nommed last had all the power. Even though you and Jay breaking the pattern first didn't matter it set the precedent of it happening. All it would take is Louise to come down with a convenient bout of confusion or forgetfulness and she could put up whoever she wanted.
Like I said no one seemed to question Louise's stories despite them not making sense either.”
“But Louise told Aaron in private it was her decision unmotivated by his actions. Are you suggesting she was lying to him?
My point was that the HM who nommed last had all the power. Even though you and Jay breaking the pattern first didn't matter it set the precedent of it happening. All it would take is Louise to come down with a convenient bout of confusion or forgetfulness and she could put up whoever she wanted.
Like I said no one seemed to question Louise's stories despite them not making sense either.”
Oh cool, show me the video. And yes maybe she was
Originally Posted by farscape:
“But you stick up for Jay plenty of times and he played much dirtier. Both literaly and figuratively.”
“But you stick up for Jay plenty of times and he played much dirtier. Both literaly and figuratively.
”
Nope wrong person, not keen on jay never was, I liked Tom mark and in retrospect Faye
Originally Posted by Thomas_OConnell:
“Quite a few things at the time; I remember he made a really cryptic comment about "there's something I need to tell you but only when we get out" which struck me as odd. Also, he said something about me flirting with Anton or Aden which I found odd.
I do in terms of his "game" however I don't think he meant to hurt my feelings or be malicious towards me. However, I could have just read into it too much. In a situation like that you form strong bonds quickly and so can assume you have feelings that aren't really there. In the "real world" I wouldn't be attracted to him at all.
No I don't. After it all "came out" I wanted to say my piece, talk it out and forget. As a person, I dont hold onto grudges, I like to argue it out (if needed) then apologise. Aaron didn't which I thought was selfish so I reacted in anger.”
“Quite a few things at the time; I remember he made a really cryptic comment about "there's something I need to tell you but only when we get out" which struck me as odd. Also, he said something about me flirting with Anton or Aden which I found odd.
I do in terms of his "game" however I don't think he meant to hurt my feelings or be malicious towards me. However, I could have just read into it too much. In a situation like that you form strong bonds quickly and so can assume you have feelings that aren't really there. In the "real world" I wouldn't be attracted to him at all.
No I don't. After it all "came out" I wanted to say my piece, talk it out and forget. As a person, I dont hold onto grudges, I like to argue it out (if needed) then apologise. Aaron didn't which I thought was selfish so I reacted in anger.”
Fair enough, Tom.
I don't think Aaron even realised that he may have led you on. That probably explains his reaction when he found out you had feelings for him. He didn't feel there was anything to discuss.
It's probably already been asked, but, who are you still in contact with?
Were you surprised to find out Jay and Louise got married?
Oh yeah, one other thing, did Jay really do THAT?
Originally Posted by Oliver Loxton-P:
“Fair enough, Tom.
I don't think Aaron even realised that he may have led you on. That probably explains his reaction when he found out you had feelings for him. He didn't feel there was anything to discuss.
It's probably already been asked, but, who are you still in contact with?
Were you surprised to find out Jay and Louise got married?”
“Fair enough, Tom.
I don't think Aaron even realised that he may have led you on. That probably explains his reaction when he found out you had feelings for him. He didn't feel there was anything to discuss.
It's probably already been asked, but, who are you still in contact with?
Were you surprised to find out Jay and Louise got married?”
Why would I answer anything more from you, when you've left a troll comment on the other thread?
Originally Posted by Thomas_OConnell:
“Why would I answer anything more from you, when you've left a troll comment on the other thread?”
“Why would I answer anything more from you, when you've left a troll comment on the other thread?”
Go and read the thread again. I posted it before I made this post.
Remember you said you don't hold grudges.
Originally Posted by Oliver Loxton-P:
“Go and read the thread again. I posted it before I made this post.
Remember you said you don't hold grudges.”
“Go and read the thread again. I posted it before I made this post.
Remember you said you don't hold grudges.
”
Forgiven, IF you vote for me on my MTV application.
I'll try answer some more tomorrow.
Night! x
Originally Posted by Thomas_OConnell:
“Oh cool, show me the video. And yes maybe she was”
“Oh cool, show me the video. And yes maybe she was”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ERYm52Q2Q8
Originally Posted by SpencerLevey:
“@Thomas_OConnell
You were my fav housemate along with Alex in 2011. Wish you could of won.
”
“@Thomas_OConnell
You were my fav housemate along with Alex in 2011. Wish you could of won.
”
So do I!
Originally Posted by kimotag:
“How painful were those electric shocks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature..._YWzlWknk&NR=1”
“How painful were those electric shocks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature..._YWzlWknk&NR=1”
They actually were painful when coupled with the anticipation of being shocked. Jay had a bit more padding than the rest of us!
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