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No, of course not - HD Ready LCD's are absolutely stunning on HD, HD Ready Plasma sets are rubbish on HD - for 'hardylane' the absolute worst ones I've seen have been old Pioneer ones, there's a fair few media box Pioneers around.
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Considering Pioneers are still the reference TV of today, HD ready included, is why what you say should be taken with a pinch of salt.
![]() ![]() So a 480 resolution Pioneer Plasma is the reference today for 1080P BluRay - they didn't even do PAL resolution, never mind HD. |
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Should've gone to Specsavers.
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I'm sure Deacon1972 is referring to the hd ready pioneers (4280, 5080 etc). Which are still brilliant displays.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Pioneer-PD...Conclusion.php |
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What a ludicrous statement
![]() So a 480 resolution Pioneer Plasma is the reference today for 1080P BluRay - they didn't even do PAL resolution, never mind HD. Pioneer's HD ready plasma's were market leaders in pq, manufacturers today strive to equal what Pioneer achieved. The latest batch of HD ready plasma's may have subjective pq, but that's not to say every HD ready plasma is rubbish/crap at displaying HD, that simply is not true. |
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Considering Pioneers are still the reference TV of today, HD ready included, is why what you say should be taken with a pinch of salt.
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The latest batch of HD ready plasma's may have subjective pq, but that's not to say every HD ready plasma is rubbish/crap at displaying HD, that simply is not true.
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I have, have you?
![]() And what have you compared it with? - and can you tell instantly if you're watching HD or not (without OSD or DOGS). I've compared it with my friend's 2012 65" Panasonic plasma. Of course I can tell HD from SD. I'm a technician. Please don't patronise me. |
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I've yet to see one that isn't - including all the Pioneers I've seen.
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I've compared it with my friend's 2012 65" Panasonic plasma.
Presumably neither, so not much of a comparison if they aren't side by side. |
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Which is presumably a Full HD set and a Plasma, did you take your set round there, or his set to your house?.
Presumably neither, so not much of a comparison if they aren't side by side. I refuse to justify my personal experience to someone who so clearly has none, and I refuse to lock horns with your smug intransigence yet again. |
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I've yet to see one that isn't - including all the Pioneers I've seen.
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Which is presumably a Full HD set and a Plasma, did you take your set round there, or his set to your house?.
Presumably neither, so not much of a comparison if they aren't side by side. You work in the industry so you will know, or should know the reputation pioneer had, in fact still hold, even professionals still use them as they still have the best 2D PQ. Got to say you are the only one I know that has the opinion Pioneers are rubbish/crap. I think it's plain to see where your where your loyalty lies.
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The cheapest crappiest supermarket HD Ready LCD are stunning on HD, so why aren't HD Ready Plasma's?.
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It's funny how all the Plasma fans (presumably in a desperate attempt to try and keep the technology alive?) refuse to entertain my continual advice to actually compare them side by side in a shop.
If Plasma's are supposedly so 'wonderful' why would you refuse to agree that it's a good idea to do your own comparison?. As always, try them side by side on both SD and HD, and THEN make your own decision. |
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Do Panny still make HD ready (ie not Full HD) sets then?
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Do Panny still make HD ready (ie not Full HD) sets then?
However, I've just checked on the Panasonic website and it seems not to bother mentioning the panel resolutions?. |
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Do Panny still make HD ready (ie not Full HD) sets then?
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Nice link - but I'd be more impressed if they didn't wrongly call it a 720P set
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As always, try them side by side on both SD and HD, and THEN make your own decision. Quote:
Yes they do - or at least they still did recently.
However, I've just checked on the Panasonic website and it seems not to bother mentioning the panel resolutions?. GENERAL Suppliers Trademark Panasonic Model ID TX-P50X60B Energy Efficiency Class B Visible ScreenSize (diagonal) 127 cm/50 inches On mode Average Power Consumption*** 132 W Annual Energy Consumption**** 183 kWh/year Standby Power Consumption 0.40 W Off mode Power Consumption 0.30 W Screen Resolution 1,024 (W) x 768 (H) Rated Power Consumption 240 W Power Supply AC 220- 240V, 50/60 Hz Dimensions (W x H x D) (w/o stand) 1,184 x 716 x 81 mm (General depth: 63 mm) Dimensions (W x H x D) (with stand) 1,184 x 757 x 266 mm Weight (w/o stand) 20.5 kg Weight (with stand) 21.5 kg Swivel Angle — Wall Bracket TY-WK4P1RW VESA Compatible — http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...trackInfo=true |
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It's funny how all the Plasma fans (presumably in a desperate attempt to try and keep the technology alive?) refuse to entertain my continual advice to actually compare them side by side in a shop.
If Plasma's are supposedly so 'wonderful' why would you refuse to agree that it's a good idea to do your own comparison?. As always, try them side by side on both SD and HD, and THEN make your own decision. The LCD is sharper and has more spatial detail on true HD material but it definitely doesn't have a better picture from a normal viewing position (not "nose to the screen"). Spatial resolution and sharpness isn't everything, in fact, it's not even half. If I needed a new set, I'd take one of those cheap Panasonic HD Ready plasmas in preference to any similarly priced LCD set... but my plasma is still going strong after 5 years. |
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Plasmas do look dim in a shop but that's because of the ridiculous bright lighting.
Put one in a house and they are completely different. You can't compare lcds and plasmas in a shop so that's probably where your going wrong Nigel. |
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Plasmas do look dim in a shop but that's because of the ridiculous bright lighting.
Put one in a house and they are completely different. You can't compare lcds and plasmas in a shop so that's probably where your going wrong Nigel. I have an HD Ready Plasma at home (my main TV, which I'm VERY happy with) and (like others I've tried) it's not really worth bothering with HD on it - I watch Sky+ in preference to my Freeview HD box via it. |
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Not HD ready, its got Freeview HD, so cant be called HD ready.
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Not HD ready, its got Freeview HD, so cant be called HD ready.
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HD Ready explained?.........
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/whats-d...ready-full-hd/ |
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