So this year looks interesting, secrets and lies, so what's twists would you like to see, I would find it interesting if BB didn't take any notice of the nominations once in a while and actually reveal to the house the lease 3 with nominations are up for eviction, it would defo put the cat among the pigeons on how the housemates have nominated, I also think the ones that think they are safe will be in fact not so we will see the game players.

Also I would love the house to have no furniture & they would have to assemble it themselves in flatpack form without any instructions.

No twists please.

I would prefer not to have any twists at all.

If there are any twists, I don't want them to only go to one or two HMs, like what happened with Rylan and Speidi. I also don't want any twist results to be based upon nominations. Nominations should not be interfered with in any way, shape or form.

This.

You would all be complaining by week 3 the series is boring.

The theme is a good start with twists as random twists don't really work - but having a theme that hooks them together really helps. This theme also allows them to rely on one big twist which can unfold over the series rather than having to throw in a twist every few weeks.

You have a crystal ball then?

Personally, I'd like a twist here and there but not for the entire series to become reliant on silly, pointless twists for the sake of it, and certainly nothing like The White Room.

No buggering about with nominations.

No giving 50k of the priize money away to neanderthal ar*eholes.

I cannot believe people want a return to the dullness of BB1/2.

I want twists,I want good twists that entertain..however I dont want twists that will effect nominations or evictions.
No free passes either..the twists must be there to keep the show entertaining,they need to be thought out rather than rushed together like the crypt twist.

The rich/poor divide is a good example of how a twist can make the show entertaining.
The crypt and whiteroom are examples of how twists fail and show unfairness.

Every housemate going in has a big secret and they have to get to the end without the other housemates finding out

Yes I think the secrets theme would be classed as a twist and shouldnt effect noms or evictions.

interesting ones that aren't in the same league as a blunt instrument.

smaller ones that slightly shift things and change up group dynamics without being as such to where it's completely obvious to everyone.

i like things such as heaven and hell, haves and have nots where it accomplishes alot without standing out too much, the housemates in those situations mostly just saw it as a reward system but in the underlying backround it was much more.

and absolutely, without compromise more housemates coming in later!!!! to me that is completely essential.
if there could only be one then definitely that!

but... yes, i am definitely for twists as long as they aren't ridiculously overboard as in evicting someone on the first night.

i want to see the housemates in the face of every situation that can be thought up within the above guidelines.
throw everything at them!!
to me, that's part of the journey.. a big part, if it's done well.
[i believe it can remain somewhat natural even with twists if the twists don't cross the line of causing too many waves]

Depends what counts as a twist. The rich/poor divide was a winner, IMO, because it cleverly messed with the house dynamic - but generally on the HMs terms. (IIRC they got to decide who went on which side each week).

There was no major BB interference, just the introduction of a curveball and then leaving it to the HMs to work out the rest.

Stuff like replaying producer-selected snippets of conversations into the house to "shake things up" or allowing certain HMs to spy on others, again with the intention of "shaking things up", is just bullshit. That's not a twist, it's the producers trying to stage manage a particular narrative of their choosing.

And anything that completely disregards such basic BB staples such as no contact with the outside world (Friends and Family nominations? What a farce.) or breaking the trust that HMs have to speak openly and confidentially in the DR can bugger off too.

I tend to think that the more the producers feel they have to interfere, the weaker they must believe the format is. And if they've got so little faith in their product, why exactly should I or anyone else care about it?

I'm completely the opposite. I hate new HMs coming in, because they break down the wall between the originals and the outside world.

They know who is "winning", who is the "villain" and which stories are playing well - information that they are not only free to act upon to serve their own agendas, but which mysteriously spreads around the house like wildfire and completely undermines all that has gone before inside the supposed bubble.

Lol I promise I won't

I just don't like the idea of BB messing too much with the house dynamics and then I get suspicious that BB is favouring certain housemates.

Instead of twists lets have really good tasks, tasks that last all night long, tasks that can naturally shake up the house a bit and then only reward the housemates when these tasks are won i.e. BB not to give takeaways, parties etc when a task has failed.

Lemon

Bad example. The rich/poor divide was extremely unpopular

This ^.

No a good example.
The only issue some had was the amount of time it went on for.

It often sits up there with the bedsit as a classic twist.

Twists I can live with...

1) Shopping tasks that tell them they have to do X to pass, but they really need to do Y.
2) A surprise eviccy.
3) If there's to be a division, don't make it series long. Heaven/ hell & HOH didn't work well. The bedsit and prisoners/ guards did.

What needs never to be seen again...

1) F&F noms.
2) Newbies unless it's the first 2-3 weeks when someone walks.
3) F&F noms.
4) Anything that remotely resembles the crypt.
5) F&F noms. I can't even put into words how much I hate that.
6) No splitting the pot. It negates the whole thing of the public deciding who wins. (I may be able to live with rule breaks being cash from the pot punishments).
7) I forgot, no noms discussions.

How about someone is given a secret task on the first night and the housemates are shocked when the its revealed and didn't know.

I'm kidding I really hope they give this a rest but I am not convinced

How about only one person is not given a secret task the first night?

Actually that might be funny.

Also, new HMs often come in after some very significant and difficult events and so avoid being tested in ways that other HMs were.

For example, all of the bb7 HMs who were there with Shahbaz faced some very difficult tests, because he was very difficult to live with. None of them behaved very well, and some behaved very badly. HMs who came in later just skipped over the whole thing. Spit night in bb9 was a similar problem. We can't be sure how HMs who came in later would have acted if they'd been there.

Even without such events, just having to get through less time in the house can make BB much easier.

Quite a few people (including me) have more of an issue with the rich/poor divide than that. Indeed, reactions against that sort of gimmick in bb3 are one of the things that led the producers to over-correct in bb4.

And then the unenthusiastic reaction to bb4 let them to over-correct in the other direction for subsequent series.

The bedsit was classic in a way, but it was disastrous in another.

There was nothing to over correct - BB3 was by far the highest rating series (averaging 6-7m a night).