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E-Ink is cheaper and better. Or you can get more expensive tablet you can use half an hour before your eyes feel it or you get distracted by some silly game. Or you can't use it because you are outside and it's sunny. So if you want to really read books e-ink is a better bet.
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No, that's just a personal preference. I'm not going to provide a list of links but here is one.
http://www.the-digital-reader.com/20.../#.UamSyue9KSM Yes, there is a lag. Current E-ink technology makes that so. No, you don't have to charge a tablet "every few hours." An iPad mini, for example goes well over 12 hours.LCD/OLED displays on tablets using either iBooks, Kindle or Nook apps are faster for single page turns and dramatically faster for flipping through pages, with the fastest being iBook's scroll mode. This is easy for anyone to see for themselves in an electronics store. What I like about small tablets as E-readers is that you are not limited to stores you can buy books from, as you are with a dedicated E-ink reader, plus you can flip through books much quicker, you can take adavatnge of color books and they serve other purposes. Those are not opinions, those are facts. If none of that matters to you then E-ink readers are excellent choices. |
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Some ebook readers are quite open. For example the ones that read ePub books, you can buy books from virtually anywhere but amazon. I don't have one of these I actually have a kindle. I like to keep my books organised.
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The idea of having books scattered about in lots of different apps on my ipad doesn't sit well with me. On my ipad I have the kindle app, which I also have on my iPod touch, my samsung galaxy tab and Galaxy note, my laptop and chromebook. In that way all my books are available to me on any of my devices and I like that set up.
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No, that's just a personal preference. I'm not going to provide a list of links but here is one.
http://www.the-digital-reader.com/20.../#.UamSyue9KSM Yes, there is a lag. Current E-ink technology makes that so. No, you don't have to charge a tablet "every few hours." An iPad mini, for example goes well over 12 hours.LCD/OLED displays on tablets using either iBooks, Kindle or Nook apps are faster for single page turns and dramatically faster for flipping through pages, with the fastest being iBook's scroll mode. This is easy for anyone to see for themselves in an electronics store. What I like about small tablets as E-readers is that you are not limited to stores you can buy books from, as you are with a dedicated E-ink reader, plus you can flip through books much quicker, you can take adavatnge of color books and they serve other purposes. Those are not opinions, those are facts. If none of that matters to you then E-ink readers are excellent choices. Your posts and love of pomme do remind me so much (in writing style) of an old DS member for some reason
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Some ebook readers are quite open. For example the ones that read ePub books, you can buy books from virtually anywhere but amazon..
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Most of my books don't come from Amazon, Kindle via Calibre does well. I did try the Fire but prefer the kindle so moved the Fire on.
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I tend to read books and not flip through them to the next picture or cartoon hence I've noticed no lag.
Single page turns are also quicker, as I said, due to the inherent refresh lag of E-ink screens. Quote:
Your posts and love of pomme do remind me so much (in writing style) of an old DS member for some reason
![]() Keep in mind we are talking about inanimate electronic objects. No one should take simple discussions like this personally and defensively. |
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I can read amazon books on the Kobo, just download to Kindle for pc and rip the drm, convert to epub and then read on any ereader. The whole process takes less than minute and since I always rip the drm from my books its not really any extra hassle.
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The point is with a tablet you have dramatically more access to more books.
So if you flip through books all you are concerned about is pictures and cartoons? Single page turns are also quicker, as I said, due to the inherent refresh lag of E-ink screens. I don't know what you mean by "pomme" but, considering the previous remark, I'm betting you are not giving me a compliment. Keep in mind we are talking about inanimate electronic objects. No one should take simple discussions like this personally and defensively. 'Pomme' refers to Apple and your love of them (ipads etc not the fruit) Pages turn just fine on my Kindle, phone, tablet and Surface Pro but not noticeably quicker than the Kindle. You really are sounding, post by post, like an ex member from DS lol |
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I can read amazon books on the Kobo, just download to Kindle for pc and rip the drm, convert to epub and then read on any ereader. The whole process takes less than minute and since I always rip the drm from my books its not really any extra hassle.
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I think it is safe to say that most readers are not going to do that.
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No, that's just a personal preference. I'm not going to provide a list of links but here is one.
http://www.the-digital-reader.com/20.../#.UamSyue9KSM. Although, for myself, it does not change a think as I still prefer reading on an eInk screen rather than an LCD. |
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I don't do research for others. Those who are truly interested will look it up themselves. Those that make your kind of protest are either not truly interested or have already made up their minds.
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I can read amazon books on the Kobo, just download to Kindle for pc and rip the drm, convert to epub and then read on any ereader. The whole process takes less than minute and since I always rip the drm from my books its not really any extra hassle.
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In other words you write whatever you feel will get the most reaction from people here. Then when people ask for evidence from you that doesn't exist you tell them to do the research for themselves.
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At any one time I have around 200 books on my Kindle and could store hundreds more but there is no real need unless you are obsessive about having all your toys with you.l
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'Pomme' refers to Apple and your love of them (ipads etc not the fruit)l
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Pages turn just fine on my Kindle, phone, tablet and Surface Pro but not noticeably quicker than the Kindle.l
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You really are sounding, post by post, like an ex member from DS lol
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In other words you write whatever you feel will get the most reaction from people here. Then when people ask for evidence from you that doesn't exist you tell them to do the research for themselves.
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And then when challenged, you get some sort of dismissive reply criticising the challenge.
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E-readers win hands down for me. Light, great readability outdoors, excellent battery life.
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I never addressed storage quantity of books.
News to me as to what that meant. As for what you think I "love," I certainly do not love a "company" and automatically all the products they make. I have been mentioning LCD and OLED displays which the later type does not include Apple's products. The ability to use reader tablet apps applies to both iOS and Android. I have also not been specifically promoting Apple's products in this thread. Some of you people really need to settle down with your trigger finger anti-Apple response. I never said they didn't "turn just fine," I said they turn slower than on tablets because of the way E-ink displays work. Tablets are "noticeably" quicker than an E-ink reader. One can easily see that in a store. What relevance does you thinking I sound like someone have to do with the topic? Lets try and stay on topic. Your post sound so similar, the 'construction', content, bias etc it struck me the first of your posts I read, hey ho what do I know
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No, when "challenged" I simply challenge back. That's what people do when they have opposing views. As I said to the other poster, you don't have to agree with me or believe me. At the very least respect that I am sharing my opinion as I respect the sharing of your opinion. These kinds of posts are about criticizing the poster, not his or her opinion. That has nothing to do with the discussion or the topic. Lets try and stay on topic please.
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No, when "challenged" I simply challenge back. That's what people do when they have opposing views. As I said to the other poster, you don't have to agree with me or believe me. At the very least respect that I am sharing my opinion as I respect the sharing of your opinion. These kinds of posts are about criticizing the poster, not his or her opinion. That has nothing to do with the discussion or the topic. Lets try and stay on topic please.
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No, when "challenged" I simply challenge back. That's what people do when they have opposing views. As I said to the other poster, you don't have to agree with me or believe me. At the very least respect that I am sharing my opinion as I respect the sharing of your opinion. These kinds of posts are about criticizing the poster, not his or her opinion. That has nothing to do with the discussion or the topic. Lets try and stay on topic please.
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So you want to pay over the top on a device that is not much good for reading, well then do so. also think of all those greasy marks from your fingers on the screen. I will stick to my kobo.
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To be fair there is plenty of other uses for an iPad than just reading books.
If I wanted a device to do more then read books then I would buy a device to allow me to do it. If the market was not there for E-ink readers then they would not be on sale. |
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I never said there was not. i said paying over the top for a device that is not good for reading books and it is not, the screen is horrid to look at for any length of time, it is heavy to hold for a long time and the battery life is awful.
If I wanted a device to do more then read books then I would buy a device to allow me to do it. If the market was not there for E-ink readers then they would not be on sale. I'm not sure if you have used one of the latest iPads but the battery life is not awful on it, quite the opposite, it's very good as is the screen for anythig else. Unless you are comparing the battery life to an eInk reader? |
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An iPad mini, for example goes well over 12 hours.