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Old 29-05-2013, 14:01
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Well when asked about Alice on daybreak this morning David Wallium said that there is the chance for her as the wildcard will be used on Sat night, so unless he has his facts wrong those details are incorrect.
Well hopefully they will not change the rules just so they can put her through.

If it says the "3rd Place" then they need to keep it as that.

Will be totally disgusted if they do this so they can put her through. She was not all that good and was totally unprofessional and there are other contestants that should be there before her.
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Old 29-05-2013, 14:16
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Alice will get the wildcard anyway, so last nights result wont matter.
I sincerely hope she doesn't, for her sake. She clearly isn't emotionally strong enough to deal with the pressure of performing on live TV.
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Old 29-05-2013, 14:20
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I sincerely hope she doesn't, for her sake. She clearly isn't emotionally strong enough to deal with the pressure of performing on live TV.
Fair enough point as she does need a lot of help regarding her lack of confidence and self belief, but i am sure there will be people there that know that.
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Old 29-05-2013, 14:22
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"After all, Alice is just a girl who wants to have a career as a singer. "

But why does she want this? She is petrified of doing it, falls to pieces under pressure and can't stand criticism. I can't understand why people put themselves through it if they don't like performing in front of an audience. That's the whole point of being a performer.

That Maloney garbage, shaking and falling down. Whether it was fake or not, they've no business being on a show like this, surely it should be an opportunity for people with real talent to show it off.

Oh wait, this is 2013, the viewing public like crises and dramas, don't they? Silly me.
Many many performers suffer from anxiety including some of the greats (Barbra Streisand , Adele) - See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3022146.html

Streisand began using teleprompters in 1976 after forgetting the lyrics to a song during a concert in Central Park. She stopped performing live for almost three decades out of fear she'd repeat the incident. Streisand told Oprah Winfrey in 2006 that she takes anti-anxiety medication to curb her stage fright.


You need sensitivity to be a great singer and that may include being very anxious. I think Alice has potential to be very good but she needs to get past the nerves and concentrate on the performance. Hopefully someone can help her with that.
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Old 29-05-2013, 14:26
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Many many performers suffer from anxiety including some of the greats (Barbra Streisand , Adele) - See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3022146.html

Streisand began using teleprompters in 1976 after forgetting the lyrics to a song during a concert in Central Park. She stopped performing live for almost three decades out of fear she'd repeat the incident. Streisand told Oprah Winfrey in 2006 that she takes anti-anxiety medication to curb her stage fright.


You need sensitivity to be a great singer and that may include being very anxious. I think Alice has potential to be very good but she needs to get past the nerves and concentrate on the performance. Hopefully someone can help her with that.
Good post. I hope that they will find someone to help her regarding this, and i am sure they will.
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Old 29-05-2013, 15:35
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Well hopefully they will not change the rules just so they can put her through.

If it says the "3rd Place" then they need to keep it as that.

Will be totally disgusted if they do this so they can put her through. She was not all that good and was totally unprofessional and there are other contestants that should be there before her.
This. She doesn't deserve the wildcard, and if the rule is 3rd place' then they shouldn't change it but knowing Cowell he probably will just like the time, Cher and Mary (X Factor) was meant to be down to the public but changed to judges vote when they found out Mary got more votes.
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Old 29-05-2013, 15:39
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This. She doesn't deserve the wildcard, and if the rule is 3rd place' then they shouldn't change it but knowing Cowell he probably will just like the time, Cher and Mary (X Factor) was meant to be down to the public but changed to judges vote when they found out Mary got more votes.
Knowing Cowell he might try to change the rules to get her in. Not because she was any good and deserves it, but he will be trying to get at "The Voice".

Though I am not too sure at the moment if he will, as he realises that the majority of the public don't really care for her
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Old 29-05-2013, 15:41
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Most people take a shine to those who are good..but dont know they are good...
most people are put off by those who think they are good but in fact are not...
and even worse are those who "pretend" they dont think they are good and in fact are mediocre..but secretly think they are much better than they actually are (watching these people is a little like watching the staged videos on youve been framed!!!)
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Old 29-05-2013, 15:43
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Many many performers suffer from anxiety including some of the greats (Barbra Streisand , Adele) - See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3022146.html

Streisand began using teleprompters in 1976 after forgetting the lyrics to a song during a concert in Central Park. She stopped performing live for almost three decades out of fear she'd repeat the incident. Streisand told Oprah Winfrey in 2006 that she takes anti-anxiety medication to curb her stage fright.


You need sensitivity to be a great singer and that may include being very anxious. I think Alice has potential to be very good but she needs to get past the nerves and concentrate on the performance. Hopefully someone can help her with that.
You also need to be able to deal with your anxiety, to the point where the audience have no idea how scared you are and it doesn't affect your performance. You also need to develop a thick skin to deal with the rejection that's part and parcel of being in the music industry. It's a tough industry and there's no place in it for people who melt down at the first hint of criticism.
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Old 29-05-2013, 15:50
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There's plenty of time for her, and she already has a good fan base. People rubbished Misha B on X factor, and she has gone on to do really well. It all takes time.
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Old 29-05-2013, 16:20
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You also need to be able to deal with your anxiety, to the point where the audience have no idea how scared you are and it doesn't affect your performance. You also need to develop a thick skin to deal with the rejection that's part and parcel of being in the music industry. It's a tough industry and there's no place in it for people who melt down at the first hint of criticism.
I don't disagree with you, especially the BIB. The performance wasn't terrible and she needed to bluff her way through it if she was nervous. But she kind of went to pieces, more afterwards than during.
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Old 29-05-2013, 16:29
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Personally I couldn't understand why the judges all made such a fuss after her 1st audition. I thought she was ok but couldn't see or hear what they were and as for last night I couldn't understand half the words she was singing and wasn't impressed with the way she started crying it did seem fake even if it wasn't
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Old 29-05-2013, 18:39
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Many many performers suffer from anxiety including some of the greats (Barbra Streisand , Adele) - See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3022146.html

Streisand began using teleprompters in 1976 after forgetting the lyrics to a song during a concert in Central Park. She stopped performing live for almost three decades out of fear she'd repeat the incident. Streisand told Oprah Winfrey in 2006 that she takes anti-anxiety medication to curb her stage fright.


You need sensitivity to be a great singer and that may include being very anxious. I think Alice has potential to be very good but she needs to get past the nerves and concentrate on the performance. Hopefully someone can help her with that.
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Old 30-05-2013, 00:30
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Many many performers suffer from anxiety including some of the greats (Barbra Streisand , Adele) - See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3022146.html

Streisand began using teleprompters in 1976 after forgetting the lyrics to a song during a concert in Central Park. She stopped performing live for almost three decades out of fear she'd repeat the incident. Streisand told Oprah Winfrey in 2006 that she takes anti-anxiety medication to curb her stage fright.


You need sensitivity to be a great singer and that may include being very anxious. I think Alice has potential to be very good but she needs to get past the nerves and concentrate on the performance. Hopefully someone can help her with that.
I also agree this is a good post.

A lot of people on this thread seem to be missing the point. It isn't just a case of coping with fame; no other BGT contestant this year has had to suffer the relentless public sniping that this poor girl has had to endure. And what was her crime? It was shedding a few tears after receiving such a positive reception after being rejected on a rival show (surely she must be fake). This is a crazy world we live in. No-wonder the pressure got to her last night. I very much doubt a man or a less attractive woman would have been subjected to the same amount of scrutiny and criticism. If the cynics wanted to sabotage her chances of stardom, it seems they've achieved their goal. I hope they're proud of themselves (not).
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Old 30-05-2013, 00:54
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She wasn't even a very good singer besides all the fake vibes she have out.
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Old 30-05-2013, 05:53
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I also agree this is a good post.

A lot of people on this thread seem to be missing the point. It isn't just a case of coping with fame; no other BGT contestant this year has had to suffer the relentless public sniping that this poor girl has had to endure. And what was her crime? It was shedding a few tears after receiving such a positive reception after being rejected on a rival show (surely she must be fake). This is a crazy world we live in. No-wonder the pressure got to her last night. I very much doubt a man or a less attractive woman would have been subjected to the same amount of scrutiny and criticism. If the cynics wanted to sabotage her chances of stardom, it seems they've achieved their goal. I hope they're proud of themselves (not).
So well said.
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Old 30-05-2013, 05:56
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She wasn't even a very good singer besides all the fake vibes she have out.
Are you so gullable that you believe everything that is in the tabloid rags?
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Old 30-05-2013, 06:57
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Are you so gullable that you believe everything that is in the tabloid rags?
Well in my case, I have ears, and her semi was flat and it was if she could not be bothered to sing, as for her going from a bubbly singer on the voice to a nervous wreck on BGT, I don't get it.

She also did a interview with the Sun, and had a very positive picture session, then would you believe it, back to a 'little girl lost act' on the semi, not even coming out with the other's in the green room.

She tried playing a game to win votes, and it failed.
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Old 30-05-2013, 07:24
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Are you so gullable that you believe everything that is in the tabloid rags?
The fact that you read The Sun just about says it all.
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Old 30-05-2013, 07:29
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The fact that you read The Sun just about says it all.
Err no, but saw it online, as news in Google.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...the-voice.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...on-on-BGT.html

Just don't believe this 2 different Alice's, as for being supported on stage during the result's 'oh' come-on!
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Old 30-05-2013, 13:47
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The fact that you read The Sun just about says it all.


Why are people so rude to others who have a different opinion. It's so uncalled for.
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Old 30-05-2013, 14:17
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I also agree this is a good post.

A lot of people on this thread seem to be missing the point. It isn't just a case of coping with fame; no other BGT contestant this year has had to suffer the relentless public sniping that this poor girl has had to endure. And what was her crime? It was shedding a few tears after receiving such a positive reception after being rejected on a rival show (surely she must be fake). This is a crazy world we live in. No-wonder the pressure got to her last night. I very much doubt a man or a less attractive woman would have been subjected to the same amount of scrutiny and criticism. If the cynics wanted to sabotage her chances of stardom, it seems they've achieved their goal. I hope they're proud of themselves (not).
If you want to be a Star you have to develop a thick skin. The music industry is tough. It's no place for people who fall apart at the first hint of criticism. Alice has potential, but appears to have no confidence in her own abilites. If she doesn't, why should anyone else?
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Old 30-05-2013, 14:17
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Why are people so rude to others who have a different opinion. It's so uncalled for.
Well said.

I could understand if she really was "Wonderful" and it was a cruel twist of fate that she didn't get through.

The truth of the matter is that she was very average and very unprofessional in the way she behaved afterwards.

I am sure the majority of acts were nervous on the night, but the rest of them managed to get through their act and then behaved with dignity when they were rejected.

Unfortunelty Alice could not even managed to do this!!
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Old 30-05-2013, 14:28
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Well said.

I could understand if she really was "Wonderful" and it was a cruel twist of fate that she didn't get through.

The truth of the matter is that she was very average and very unprofessional in the way she behaved afterwards.

I am sure the majority of acts were nervous on the night, but the rest of them managed to get through their act and then behaved with dignity when they were rejected.

Unfortunelty Alice could not even managed to do this!!
And then locking her self away back stage during the voting. When everyone else was there and must have been nervous. Then being supported as she came on stage for the vote, and supported by the other losers as she went off. Come on being nervous is one thing, but this was way over the top
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Old 30-05-2013, 14:50
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The young boys behaved with great dignity and clapped for everyone as they went through showing great maturity .
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