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BB14 - Do you want a "nice" or "nasty" series?
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dan_
28-05-2013
As title says, are you hoping for another series similar to BB13 where there was a lot of bitching and nastiness going on or would you rather a nicer series?

I'm hoping for a nicer series this year with a lot of fun but yet still interesting and entertaining. I quite liked BB13 but it was so tiresome to watch at times so I'm hoping for a more lighthearted series this year.
flowers786
28-05-2013
nicer series. i actually think bb13 was a decent series, but connor ruined it for me. as much as i hated caroline she seemed more like a panto villian, whereas he just seemed pure evil..

an equal balance would be great, arguments are good to watch, but when it crosses over the line to bullying, i don't wanna watch.
dan_
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by flowers786:
“an equal balance would be great, arguments are good to watch, but when it crosses over the line to bullying, i don't wanna watch.”

Completely agree with this.
Sun Tzu.
28-05-2013
Like a good sauce, it needs a balance. I want to see a bit of everything, arguments, friendships, bitching, people being nice and caring. It is what the show is about. The last series swinged towards one side a bit too much.
biggestbrother
28-05-2013
I'd like mixed bag this year. Too much arguing can drain the show just as everyone being sweetness and light can make it become tedious and boring. I'll just be glad for something to watch every night as tv is the worst these days :yawn:
lightdragon
28-05-2013
I'd like a series where Big Bro is actually Big Bro.

A lot of what I felt was wrong with the last few series could be filed under "the lunatics have taken over the asylum".

So yes to "nice" as in the HMs have some fun, and it doesn't become factions-for-survival. And yes to "nasty" as in BB stops handing out treats for no reason, and lax punishments for rule breaking. "You want a pack of smokes? Which convo do you want played into the house?"
wonkeydonkey
28-05-2013
I think there was one thing missing from the basically decent BB13, and that was that when the house got badly divided BB did not know how to put things right. You can see what they were trying to do with the turf war task, splitting up friendship groups, but it didn't come off at all: Caroline and Conor became joined at the hip, which benefited no one, and no one else made any new alliances at all. The task was too nasty and too stressful to put anyone in a relaxed frame of mind.

There really is a time for a task that is purely fun, and that has to be when divisions are still relatively new, not when they are set in stone. I would like to see a lot more laughter this year; allowing for the fact that there are bound to be rows, that means BB stepping in with something positive long before it reaches the toxic atmosphere of BB13.
Timalloy84
28-05-2013
NASTY!!! I like the manipulations, bitching, arguments, groups forming etc its what BB is all about for me. Not interested in showmances, silly costumes etc, BB should be a hard time not a good time. Bring it on.
Virgil Tracy
28-05-2013
Couldn't we have a naughty one instead ?
Veri
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“I think there was one thing missing from the basically decent BB13, and that was that when the house got badly divided BB did not know how to put things right. You can see what they were trying to do with the turf war task, splitting up friendship groups, but it didn't come off at all: Caroline and Conor became joined at the hip, which benefited no one, and no one else made any new alliances at all. The task was too nasty and too stressful to put anyone in a relaxed frame of mind.

There really is a time for a task that is purely fun, and that has to be when divisions are still relatively new, not when they are set in stone. I would like to see a lot more laughter this year; allowing for the fact that there are bound to be rows, that means BB stepping in with something positive long before it reaches the toxic atmosphere of BB13.”

I don't think bb13 was basically decent. How was it basically decent?

I also don't think BB was trying to put things right with the turf war task.

Or that Conor and Caroline became joined at the hip. (For instance, even after the "B and D" conversation, which happened in one of the 'turf wars' weeks, Caroline did not ever nominate B(ecky) or D(eana). Conor nominated both.)
ABCZYX
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by dan_:
“As title says, are you hoping for another series similar to BB13 where there was a lot of bitching and nastiness going on or would you rather a nicer series?

I'm hoping for a nicer series this year with a lot of fun but yet still interesting and entertaining. I quite liked BB13 but it was so tiresome to watch at times so I'm hoping for a more lighthearted series this year.”

I want it to be a nicer series. I want it to have a BB1-BB4 feel where the majority of the HMs are clearly there for the experience and to have fun. I don't want to see HMs in there who people would want to avoid if they saw them in the street. I want them to be normal people but with something about them that makes them stand out from others.

As well as the HMs being nicer, more genuine people, I want BB to be strict with the rules and to appropriately punish the HMs if they break these rules. I want them to be fearful of BB punishing them. In order for this to work, I think BB should stop with the sarky, funny comments because this won't give them the impression that BB shouldnt be messed with. BB should be the boss and the HMs should know and respect that.
Veri
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by ABCZYX:
“I want it to be a nicer series. I want it to have a BB1-BB4 feel where the majority of the HMs are clearly there for the experience and to have fun. I don't want to see HMs in there who people would want to avoid if they saw them in the street. I want them to be normal people but with something about them that makes them stand out from others.

As well as the HMs being nicer, more genuine people, I want BB to be strict with the rules and to appropriately punish the HMs if they break these rules. I want them to be fearful of BB punishing them. In order for this to work, I think BB should stop with the sarky, funny comments because this won't give them the impression that BB shouldnt be messed with. BB should be the boss and the HMs should know and respect that.”

Well said.

Still, I don't think BBs 1-3 were actually very good. They may have for the most part have had nicer, more genuine people (though there were certainly some who weren't nice, and some who weren't very genuine). But most of them weren't very interesting.

And a "something about them that makes them stand out from others" may well be something I don't want to watch.
wonkeydonkey
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I don't think bb13 was basically decent. How was it basically decent? ”

I thought it was miles better than BB11 or 12 anyway. Apart from the ghastly flop of the white room, BB13 had a lot going for it: there were quite a few interesting, likeable housemates, and unlike the two previous series it didn't die a death by half way through; indeed, the final week (always a difficult thing for BB to keep alive) was the best for ages, with the housemates finally chilling and having proper fun.

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“I also don't think BB was trying to put things right with the turf war task.”

Well I assume that neither of us knows, but it seems likely to me that consciously splitting up groups of friends and mixing the groups up for a very long task was an attempt to build bridges across the divide.

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“Or that Conor and Caroline became joined at the hip. (For instance, even after the "B and D" conversation, which happened in one of the 'turf wars' weeks, Caroline did not ever nominate B(ecky) or D(eana). Conor nominated both.)”

I don't think their friendship extended to liking each others' friends. But certainly they seemed to get much closer, in a way that I thought was disastrous for Caroline and not very good for Conor, though he may have been beyond help.
ABCZYX
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Still, I don't think BBs 1-3 were actually very good. They may have for the most part have had nicer, more genuine people (though there were certainly some who weren't nice, and some who weren't very genuine). But most of them weren't very interesting.”

There's always going to be at least one HM in each series who isn't as nice and genuine as the others. I can accept that.

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“And a "something about them that makes them stand out from others" may well be something I don't want to watch.”

I personally think some of the BB HMs we've had fall in this category are the most popular on these forums. Take BB1's Anna, for example. She was a skateboarding, lesbian ex-nun, but at the same time, she was what I would call a relatively normal person.
Veri
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“I thought it was miles better than BB11 or 12 anyway. Apart from the ghastly flop of the white room, BB13 had a lot going for it: there were quite a few interesting, likeable housemates, and unlike the two previous series it didn't die a death by half way through; indeed, the final week (always a difficult thing for BB to keep alive) was the best for ages, with the housemates finally chilling and having proper fun. ”

I don't know why you think bb12 died a death half way through. What changed then that made such a difference?

BB13 seemed to me more lacking in interesting, likeable housemates (as a proportion of the whole) than to have them; and I don't think there was anyone in it nearly as interesting as the most interesting ones in bb11.

What was the "finally chilling and having proper fun" of the final week? The 'soldiers' stuff and prayer sessions weren't all that much fun and usually had a somewhat unpleasant subtext; and the way Deana treated Luke S was rather nasty. (It wasn't the one night while drunk that you said a while back was all you remembered. It went on for days.)

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“Well I assume that neither of us knows, but it seems likely to me that consciously splitting up groups of friends and mixing the groups up for a very long task was an attempt to build bridges across the divide.”

Or to create "drama" by putting people who didn't get along together. Or it was planned anyway and they went with their plan. Why would BB want to build bridges across the divide? Did BB show any (other) sign of wanting to reduce tensions and divisions, so that we could say this task was part of it too?

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“I don't think their friendship extended to liking each others' friends. But certainly they seemed to get much closer, in a way that I thought was disastrous for Caroline and not very good for Conor, though he may have been beyond help.”

It didn't seem to me that they became much closer or that there was a turn to the disastrous for Caroline at that time. Most people seemed to think nearly from the start that they were both in the same "insiders" group. (I don't think there was such a coherent group, but I also don't think C & C became 'joined at the hip'.)
CLL Dodge
28-05-2013
I want a fun series. Nice can be fun, nasty is just nasty (it needs to be dealt with promptly by BB).
Veri
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by ABCZYX:
“There's always going to be at least one HM in each series who isn't as nice and genuine as the others. I can accept that.”

BB3 had one of the least nice HMs of all time, not just less nice than others in that series.

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“I personally think some of the BB HMs we've had fall in this category are the most popular on these forums. Take BB1's Anna, for example. She was a skateboarding, lesbian ex-nun, but at the same time, she was what I would call a relatively normal person.”

She's an unusual exception.
sammyvan
28-05-2013
A mixture of all above. Rather than have 'nice' or 'nasty', I agree with the poster who sugests we have "naughty" but in a nice way!
How about a mixture of tasks that bring humour to the house - but still have the threat of punishment for failure? Tasks that last longer than a couple of hours - try three days for a task. Could the punishment be something other than the "starvation" of the House Mates - so tedious to watch people sleeping, draped over the sofa - all because they have no energy to entertain.
No more interference from family/friends with a view to change nominations.
Must say I like the format they use for the Australian BB regarding Nom Noms - the point system. That way we can have at least three possible evictees each week.
More than anything else, I do hope the new team change the Friday night evictions - an interview we can actually hear, ........and no more boos from the crowd outside. Uk has become known for that, and not in a good way!
Sun Tzu.
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“I want a fun series. Nice can be fun, nasty is just nasty (it needs to be dealt with promptly by BB).”

They can't control personalties of people. That would ruin the show.
Cocained
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by Veri:
“ I'd like the winner to get the whole prize if it's a much smaller prize. With the prize so high, I think it's good in a way that the winner's never received the full amount since the move to C5. It discourages HMs from focusing too much on the money, and it makes BB less attractive to people who'd do questionable things to try to win.”

Big Brother is a game show.. The winner of this game show gets the prize money.. The whole concept of all this nominating and evicting is to win the money at the end.. Why do you think they live there? They all should be focused on getting the money.. with Big Brother taking money away from the winner it's just mind boggling.. £100,000 is not much money with all the housemates have to deal with..

Originally Posted by Veri:
“ That's not true. Even assuming he did threaten rape, that isn't what he got the 50k for. Nor is it all he did during the show. (That doesn't mean I think it was ok for him to get 50k. I think he should have been thrown out, and that (since we wasn't), the twist should have been cancelled or changed to ensure he didn't get the money.)”

He did threaten rape.. Not just rape but violence aswell.. I quote "I'll give her a fun game.. I'll stick this up her f****ing minge stupid b*****d" "I'll punch her in her face" You can watch below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJGI7isQCPU

What else did he do during the show to warrant £50,000 worth for you? The public should choose who the money goes to in my opinion.


Originally Posted by Veri:
“Why do you want nastiness in BB? (There has to be nastiness for there to be a mix of nice and nasty.) Is BB the sort of show that can't be entertaining without nastiness?”

You answered your own question..There has to be a mix of nasty and nice to make a show... When I say nasty I don't mean rape, violence (as I said earlier)... I think "tougher" would have been a better word but this was how the OP had worded the topic of this thread.

Originally Posted by Veri:
“I think "Secrets and Lies" is a very bad sign re the producers' intentions.”

I think it's just a gimmick to get people to talk.. They will probably bin it after week 2
Veri
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by Cocained:
“Big Brother is a game show.. The winner of this game show gets the prize money.. The whole concept of all this nominating and evicting is to win the money at the end.. Why do you think they live there? They all should be focused on getting the money.. with Big Brother taking money away from the winner it's just mind boggling.. £100,000 is not much money with all the housemates have to deal with..”

Sure, it's a game show. But that's not contrary to anything I said.

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“He did threaten rape.. Not just rape but violence aswell.. I quote "I'll give her a fun game.. I'll stick this up her f****ing minge stupid b*****d" "I'll punch her in her face" You can watch below”

I know what he said. But the idea that he got £50,000 for it is nonsense.

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“What else did he do during the show to warrant £50,000 worth for you? The public should choose who the money goes to in my opinion.”

I didn't say he did anything to warrant £50,000. But the reason he got it was the twist and how he timed pushing the button. It was not for what he said about Deana.

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“You answered your own question..There has to be a mix of nasty and nice to make a show... ”

That's not what I said, though. I said "there has to be nastiness for there to be a mix of nice and nasty", not for there to be a show.

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“When I say nasty I don't mean rape, violence (as I said earlier)... I think "tougher" would have been a better word but this was how the OP had worded the topic of this thread.”

OK.

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“I think it's just a gimmick to get people to talk.. They will probably bin it after week 2 ”

I hope so.
Veri
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“I want a fun series. Nice can be fun, nasty is just nasty (it needs to be dealt with promptly by BB).”

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“They can't control personalties of people. That would ruin the show.”

BB can do something to control the nasty behaviour. I think that's all Dodge meant.
Jackk
28-05-2013
Nasty. It's better for entertainment, discussions and thus ratings.
ryanr554
28-05-2013
I want it to be nicer than last year definitely but I don't want them to be too nice.
kimotag
28-05-2013
Definitely nicer than last years, but as I always like to see a few 'villains' get their comeuppance, we need a bit of nastiness. It's also only human for even generally likeable Hms, to have their bad days or to start giving the 'baddies' as good as they get in terms of bitching, particularly if it's entertaining bitchery!

Generally I like to see some conflict early on, but to have some resolution of that towards the end of a series. BB9 certainly had that, with the Whisper club going from being confident, to slow realisation that the public simply didn't like them. Similarly, It was good to see the (at one point) seemingly impossible triumph of the Outsiders/soldiers over The Insiders and a bit of reconciliation towards the end. Even Deana, who seemed to revel in having the upper hand in the final week or so, stopped teasing Luke S and started singing his praises to a gobsmacked Luke and Adam.
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