I find them quite strange. Sometimes they are great, especially with Piccalilli, or even plain English mustard. Other times they can be quite boring. Strange things.
what do you make of ham sandwiches?
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Sometimes I love them, mostly when they're shop bought - Greggs do a lovely ham and coleslaw baguette.
If I buy packaged ham and make my own sandwich at home, I find them quite bad... Probably as packaged ham has 'hard' bits in them
(See similar thread re hard bits in sausages) :-P
If I buy packaged ham and make my own sandwich at home, I find them quite bad... Probably as packaged ham has 'hard' bits in them
(See similar thread re hard bits in sausages) :-P
Originally Posted by The22ndRachel:
“Sometimes I love them, mostly when they're shop bought - Greggs do a lovely ham and coleslaw baguette.
If I buy packaged ham and make my own sandwich at home, I find them quite bad... Probably as packaged ham has 'hard' bits in them
(See similar thread re hard bits in sausages) :-P”
“Sometimes I love them, mostly when they're shop bought - Greggs do a lovely ham and coleslaw baguette.
If I buy packaged ham and make my own sandwich at home, I find them quite bad... Probably as packaged ham has 'hard' bits in them
(See similar thread re hard bits in sausages) :-P”
What ham are you buying? I can't recall having any hard bits in ham ranging from reformed to proper hand carved.
On that point though, Jay Rayner did a report and taste test on reformed ham and it came out better than he expected. It is still whole legs of ham but cured in a processed fashion.
Originally Posted by Ads:
“Its all about the quality of the ham. How can people eat that cheap reformed stuff?”
“Its all about the quality of the ham. How can people eat that cheap reformed stuff?”
this ^^
Re-formed anything is junk. Read this and weep
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/nov/03/foodanddrink
EXTRACT
Most supermarket ham sold today, including premium ham, is formed or reformed ham. Formed ham is muscle meat from the leg bones. It is chopped and passed under needles which inject it with a solution of water, sugars, preservatives, flavourings and other additives, or put into a giant machine resembling a cement mixer and mixed with a similar solution. The process dissolves an amino acid called myosin so the meat becomes sticky and, when put into moulds, comes out looking like a whole piece of meat.
If the ham is to be presented as a traditional cut, a layer of fat is stuck round the edge of the mould to make it look as though it has been cut off a whole leg.
It is becoming increasing difficult to find the unadulterated product in supermarkets and I would guess this is what many sandwich shops sell. Which is why I wouldn't buy from the latter.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/nov/03/foodanddrink
EXTRACT
Most supermarket ham sold today, including premium ham, is formed or reformed ham. Formed ham is muscle meat from the leg bones. It is chopped and passed under needles which inject it with a solution of water, sugars, preservatives, flavourings and other additives, or put into a giant machine resembling a cement mixer and mixed with a similar solution. The process dissolves an amino acid called myosin so the meat becomes sticky and, when put into moulds, comes out looking like a whole piece of meat.
If the ham is to be presented as a traditional cut, a layer of fat is stuck round the edge of the mould to make it look as though it has been cut off a whole leg.
It is becoming increasing difficult to find the unadulterated product in supermarkets and I would guess this is what many sandwich shops sell. Which is why I wouldn't buy from the latter.
Ham, mustard and mayo - the best sandwich ever!
My bro in law worked at some ham factory, he told us the same, what you posted is true. Even the ham rounds are processed ham, but the ham on the bone is unprocessed.
Originally Posted by mrsgrumpy49:
“Re-formed anything is junk. Read this and weep
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/nov/03/foodanddrink
EXTRACT
Most supermarket ham sold today, including premium ham, is formed or reformed ham. Formed ham is muscle meat from the leg bones. It is chopped and passed under needles which inject it with a solution of water, sugars, preservatives, flavourings and other additives, or put into a giant machine resembling a cement mixer and mixed with a similar solution. The process dissolves an amino acid called myosin so the meat becomes sticky and, when put into moulds, comes out looking like a whole piece of meat.
If the ham is to be presented as a traditional cut, a layer of fat is stuck round the edge of the mould to make it look as though it has been cut off a whole leg.
It is becoming increasing difficult to find the unadulterated product in supermarkets and I would guess this is what many sandwich shops sell. Which is why I wouldn't buy from the latter.”
“Re-formed anything is junk. Read this and weep
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/nov/03/foodanddrink
EXTRACT
Most supermarket ham sold today, including premium ham, is formed or reformed ham. Formed ham is muscle meat from the leg bones. It is chopped and passed under needles which inject it with a solution of water, sugars, preservatives, flavourings and other additives, or put into a giant machine resembling a cement mixer and mixed with a similar solution. The process dissolves an amino acid called myosin so the meat becomes sticky and, when put into moulds, comes out looking like a whole piece of meat.
If the ham is to be presented as a traditional cut, a layer of fat is stuck round the edge of the mould to make it look as though it has been cut off a whole leg.
It is becoming increasing difficult to find the unadulterated product in supermarkets and I would guess this is what many sandwich shops sell. Which is why I wouldn't buy from the latter.”
My bro in law worked at some ham factory, he told us the same, what you posted is true. Even the ham rounds are processed ham, but the ham on the bone is unprocessed.
Originally Posted by Ads:
“Its all about the quality of the ham. How can people eat that cheap reformed stuff?”
“Its all about the quality of the ham. How can people eat that cheap reformed stuff?”
Because many people have tight food budgets.
The ham has to be fresh off the joint, preferably from my local farm for me. The butcher is a very good second choice though.
I like my ham with red onion and a nice creamy double gloucester, there's a nice combination between the three different levels of sweetness
I like my ham with red onion and a nice creamy double gloucester, there's a nice combination between the three different levels of sweetness
Originally Posted by fender101:
“What do you make of ham sandwiches?”
“What do you make of ham sandwiches?”
What a ridiculous question...........
What do you think anyone makes of ham sandwiches?
Honestly?
Originally Posted by cassius_west:
“What a ridiculous question...........
What do you think anyone makes of ham sandwiches?
Honestly?”
“What a ridiculous question...........
What do you think anyone makes of ham sandwiches?
Honestly?”
amazing. someone always manages to bring some vitriol in to such a simple question.
Originally Posted by fender101:
“amazing. someone always manages to bring some vitriol in to such a simple question.”
“amazing. someone always manages to bring some vitriol in to such a simple question.”
I was joking..
Ham carved off the bone, a slick of Dijon and some thinly sliced red onion. Between fresh granary bread. Lovely, and a million miles away from wafer thin processed rubbish on cheap white sliced.
Originally Posted by indianwells:
“Ham carved off the bone, a slick of Dijon and some thinly sliced red onion. Between fresh granary bread. Lovely, and a million miles away from wafer thin processed rubbish on cheap white sliced.”
“Ham carved off the bone, a slick of Dijon and some thinly sliced red onion. Between fresh granary bread. Lovely, and a million miles away from wafer thin processed rubbish on cheap white sliced.”
I'm going to buy this tonight, it'll do me just fine for my supper! Delicious!
Originally Posted by fender101:
“amazing. someone always manages to bring some vitriol in to such a simple question.”
“amazing. someone always manages to bring some vitriol in to such a simple question.”
googled for alternatives to spread on my toast...
Originally Posted by Ads:
“Its all about the quality of the ham. How can people eat that cheap reformed stuff?”
“Its all about the quality of the ham. How can people eat that cheap reformed stuff?”
As it is cheap. I only buy the cheapist foods all the time.
Originally Posted by fender101:
“I find them quite strange. Sometimes they are great, especially with Piccalilli, or even plain English mustard. Other times they can be quite boring. Strange things.”
“I find them quite strange. Sometimes they are great, especially with Piccalilli, or even plain English mustard. Other times they can be quite boring. Strange things.”
Agreed. Boring. Much prefer salmon or chicken tbh.
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