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Zee is dismissive of the females
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Sara Webb
28-05-2013
Good riddance.
The Rhydler
28-05-2013
Pathetic witch hunt

Leah was aggressive to him from the outset just because she was outvoted as PM. She was gunning for him throughout, undermining him and doing her utmost to derail him. They just did not like each other. There's nothing sexist about that.

He made a grave error bringing Natalie in over Kurt, but she was vulnerable after being let off in by Sugar previously and she wasnt very vocal on selling in the episode.

Sugar rejected the claims of sexism, yet still fired Zee on the basis that he didn't lead the task well, Sugar brought it back to business and I commend him for that.

I do hope Leah falls in future weeks
DomJolly
28-05-2013
the sexism accusation was pathetic and a low blow
WhyHelloWorld
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“Pathetic witch hunt

Leah was aggressive to him from the outset just because she was outvoted as PM. She was gunning for him throughout, undermining him and doing her utmost to derail him. They just did not like each other. There's nothing sexist about that.

He made a grave error bringing Natalie in over Kurt, but she was vulnerable after being let off in by Sugar previously and she wasnt very vocal on selling in the episode.

Sugar rejected the claims of sexism, yet still fired Zee on the basis that he didn't lead the task well, Sugar brought it back to business and I commend him for that.

I do hope Leah falls in future weeks”

-"Can i speak to Neil?"
- Ignoring the fact Kurt got mixed up, which cost them time.
- Ignoring the fact that Neil got the wrong item, which made them lose the task.

He took Leah back in because he didn't like her. He took Natalie back in because he didn't want to take a boy back in. He got flustered in the boardroom because he doesn't like woman challenging him. It was all very very clear throughout the episode.
The Rhydler
28-05-2013
'Can I talk to Neil because I'm talking to someone who plainly will not do as I ask her to do and I'm the PM and she's not listening to me!!'

He should have brought Kurt back in, I honestly believe he brought Natalie in because Sugar may have been prepared to fire her.

Be honest...we saw nothing of Natalie this week or last week
DomJolly
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“-"Can i speak to Neil?"
- Ignoring the fact Kurt got mixed up, which cost them time.
- Ignoring the fact that Neil got the wrong item, which made them lose the task.

He took Leah back in because he didn't like her. He took Natalie back in because he didn't want to take a boy back in. He got flustered in the boardroom because he doesn't like woman challenging him. It was all very very clear throughout the episode.”

Nonsense he took Leah back in simply because she was negative from the start of the task.

Natalie was useless, didn't do a thing, Uzma was taken in to the boardroom for the exact same reason, no cries of sexism then were there
WhyHelloWorld
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“'Can I talk to Neil because I'm talking to someone who plainly will not do as I ask her to do and I'm the PM and she's not listening to me!!'

He should have brought Kurt back in, I honestly believe he brought Natalie in because Sugar may have been prepared to fire her.

Be honest...we saw nothing of Natalie this week or last week”

"I'm the PM, and i got fired, but if i had let Leah go to the Mall like she, and the other two men in the car wanted, then i wouldnt of been fired"

WhyHelloWorld
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by DomJolly:
“Nonsense he took Leah back in simply because she was negative from the start of the task.

Natalie was useless, didn't do a thing, Uzma was taken in to the boardroom for the exact same reason, no cries of sexism then were there”

Obviously there was no claims to sexism then, because no sexism was happening then. Simple.
DomJolly
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“Obviously there was no claims to sexism then, because no sexism was happening then. Simple.”

Or maybe its because Natalie was useless like Uzma?
The Rhydler
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“"I'm the PM, and i got fired, but if i had let Leah go to the Mall like she, and the other two men in the car wanted, then i wouldnt of been fired"

”

It's irrelevant what they wanted, he was the PM, she wasn't, so she did her level best to ruin him and discredit him. He got things wrong, but he got things right, the mall is far more expensive as the other team found out.
DomJolly
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“It's irrelevant what they wanted, he was the PM, she wasn't, so she did her level best to ruin him and discredit him. He got things wrong, but he got things right, the mall is far more expensive as the other team found out.”

Yup it was obvious from the start, she took on a negative attitude throughout the task

She was a useless Sub Team Leader, I didn't see any leadership from her, Neil actually looked like he was in charge of her team.
The Rhydler
28-05-2013
End of the day, she's not a businesswoman, she's a doctor. I'm starting to think that Luisa's quite rude statement in episode 1 is spot on.
Mr Teacake
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“End of the day, she's not a businesswoman, she's a doctor. I'm starting to think that Luisa's quite rude statement in episode 1 is spot on.”

What did she say?
The Rhydler
28-05-2013
'you're just a doctor' in a really disparaging way that suggested being a doctor wasn't anything special.

But in reality, would a qualified doctor be equally competent in business? Unless she has degrees in both i'd say highly unlikely.
Mr Teacake
28-05-2013
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“'you're just a doctor' in a really disparaging way that suggested being a doctor wasn't anything special.

But in reality, would a qualified doctor be equally competent in business? Unless she has degrees in both i'd say highly unlikely.”

I want to see Leah as team leader
The Rhydler
28-05-2013
Yep - and hopefully her team will not do as she asks.
Damanda
29-05-2013
Originally Posted by Handers:
“I really hope he is called out on this. Just completely disregards their thoughts, opinions, input...”

He is and it cost him tonight.
Surprised how many FMs seem to support his approach.

He's a pompous little dweeb.
DavetheScot
29-05-2013
Originally Posted by DomJolly:
“Nonsense he took Leah back in simply because she was negative from the start of the task.

Natalie was useless, didn't do a thing, Uzma was taken in to the boardroom for the exact same reason, no cries of sexism then were there”

As was pointed up, he didn't really allow Natalie any opportunity to contribute. Maybe he isn't a sexist and just didn't like these individual women, but he clearly wasn't treating Natalie equally. Leah was certainly hostile to him, but she wasn't the only one. Neil and Alex clearly weren't impressed either.
DavetheScot
29-05-2013
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“It's irrelevant what they wanted, he was the PM, she wasn't, so she did her level best to ruin him and discredit him. He got things wrong, but he got things right, the mall is far more expensive as the other team found out.”

Thing is, Leah was criticised in the boardroom, not for defying Zeeshan and going to the mall, but for not pressing on with her disobedience.
capekdeh
29-05-2013
Originally Posted by Damanda:
“He is and it cost him tonight.
Surprised how many FMs seem to support his approach.

He's a pompous little dweeb.”

Nothing surprises me anymore in this forum
The Rhydler
29-05-2013
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“Thing is, Leah was criticised in the boardroom, not for defying Zeeshan and going to the mall, but for not pressing on with her disobedience.”

Can't argue with that. Sugar did that say that
DomJolly
29-05-2013
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“As was pointed up, he didn't really allow Natalie any opportunity to contribute. Maybe he isn't a sexist and just didn't like these individual women, but he clearly wasn't treating Natalie equally. Leah was certainly hostile to him, but she wasn't the only one. Neil and Alex clearly weren't impressed either.”

Its always the same excuse with Natalie, she played the sexism card nicely, it was her last card to play.

Uzma said the same thing about being ignored by Neil last week, although she didn't lower herself to accuse him of sexism.

Natalie doesn't have much of a voice, her card is marked for next week if anyone brings her into the boardroom.
tiggerspp
29-05-2013
Originally Posted by DomJolly:
“Its always the same excuse with Natalie, she played the sexism card nicely, it was her last card to play.

Uzma said the same thing about being ignored by Neil last week, although she didn't lower herself to accuse him of sexism.”

Coudl that be because Neil isn't seixt whereas Zee is?
The Rhydler
29-05-2013
Neil was far more abrasive towards Uzma than Zee was to Natalie

'I can't have her out here' Neil said at one point

But this wasnt sexist either.

Basically only men can have accusations of sexism levelled at them. Nothing will change
DomJolly
29-05-2013
Originally Posted by The Rhydler:
“Neil was far more abrasive towards Uzma than Zee was to Natalie

'I can't have her out here' Neil said at one point

But this wasnt sexist either.

Basically only men can have accusations of sexism levelled at them. Nothing will change”

Yup and the fact Uzma was the second highest seller in his team, asides from Zee

Maybe we should start accusing Neil of sexism and racism?

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