Originally Posted by 4troy7:
“I think she will get the wildcard tbh .”
“I think she will get the wildcard tbh .”
That should NOT be allowed - I thought that you could only get the wildcard if you ended in the top 3?
Did the hype ruin Alice F's chances?
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That should NOT be allowed - I thought that you could only get the wildcard if you ended in the top 3?
Originally Posted by 4troy7:
“I think she will get the wildcard tbh .”
“I think she will get the wildcard tbh .”
That should not be allowed - I thought you could only have a chance of the wildcard if you ended in the top 3?
I too think the Wild Card has her name on it. Simon will get his way, one way or the other. The shy nervous act failed so let's try something else. Ah the Wild Card!
Originally Posted by TTTango:
“David Walliams on Twitter
The only contestant to go to pieces on this series of #BGT was Alice Fredenham. She is 28.
Says it all really:yawn:”
“David Walliams on Twitter
The only contestant to go to pieces on this series of #BGT was Alice Fredenham. She is 28.
Says it all really:yawn:”
Since when has Walliams ever said anything enuine and honest - all he is trying to do is resurrect his career. (What career?) Why else would he behave like a delinquent teenager and make puerile comments.
Alice had one of the best voices on the show - bar none.
I hadn't watched her on TV, and not read any hype....I just thought she was boring, the song was dated (a classic, but done too many times by too many people) and yes, she has quite a good voice, but her performance was just depressing.
I guess that kind of miserable, bluesy music isn't my thing.
I won't be happy if she comes back as the wildcard - I want that dancer who came 3rd last night to come back!
I guess that kind of miserable, bluesy music isn't my thing.
I won't be happy if she comes back as the wildcard - I want that dancer who came 3rd last night to come back!
Originally Posted by Potkettle:
“I too think the Wild Card has her name on it. Simon will get his way, one way or the other. The shy nervous act failed so let's try something else. Ah the Wild Card!”
“I too think the Wild Card has her name on it. Simon will get his way, one way or the other. The shy nervous act failed so let's try something else. Ah the Wild Card!”
But will he? As I see it if they do that and give it to her they have the real (I think certain) risk of her not getting top three again and making them look incredibly stupid for trying to foist her on the voters.
Originally Posted by sutie:
“Regardless of the hype, I think she is one of the most over-rated contestants ever. :yawn:”
“Regardless of the hype, I think she is one of the most over-rated contestants ever. :yawn:”
Without all the play acting, she would have disappeared without trace, a very boring, out of tune singer.
I really do think that if she hadn't been on "The Voice" there is no way she would have even got through the 1st rounds.
I can imagine that she said in passing she had audition for "The Voice" and then they all thought what a perfect way to get back. So they tell her to come on shaking and crying on how her confidence was completely destroyed, Bad bad Voice, how could you do this.
The only thing is though was that she can't act and went OTT and that she also couldn't sing very well.
Again this is just my opinion, but I read an interview on "NOW" (at the Hairdressers) and I am sorry but I really do believe now it was all an act.
She wanted to 5 mins of fame and she has certainly got it. Hopefully now is has passed.
I can imagine that she said in passing she had audition for "The Voice" and then they all thought what a perfect way to get back. So they tell her to come on shaking and crying on how her confidence was completely destroyed, Bad bad Voice, how could you do this.
The only thing is though was that she can't act and went OTT and that she also couldn't sing very well.
Again this is just my opinion, but I read an interview on "NOW" (at the Hairdressers) and I am sorry but I really do believe now it was all an act.
She wanted to 5 mins of fame and she has certainly got it. Hopefully now is has passed.
Originally Posted by jude007:
“I really do think that if she hadn't been on "The Voice" there is no way she would have even got through the 1st rounds.
I can imagine that she said in passing she had audition for "The Voice" and then they all thought what a perfect way to get back. So they tell her to come on shaking and crying on how her confidence was completely destroyed, Bad bad Voice, how could you do this.
The only thing is though was that she can't act and went OTT and that she also couldn't sing very well.
Again this is just my opinion, but I read an interview on "NOW" (at the Hairdressers) and I am sorry but I really do believe now it was all an act.
She wanted to 5 mins of fame and she has certainly got it. Hopefully now is has passed.”
“I really do think that if she hadn't been on "The Voice" there is no way she would have even got through the 1st rounds.
I can imagine that she said in passing she had audition for "The Voice" and then they all thought what a perfect way to get back. So they tell her to come on shaking and crying on how her confidence was completely destroyed, Bad bad Voice, how could you do this.
The only thing is though was that she can't act and went OTT and that she also couldn't sing very well.
Again this is just my opinion, but I read an interview on "NOW" (at the Hairdressers) and I am sorry but I really do believe now it was all an act.
She wanted to 5 mins of fame and she has certainly got it. Hopefully now is has passed.”
Exactly (BIB)! This whole thing has been a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Poor girl went pieces precisely because of all the garbage that's been written about her over the past few weeks. Young women (in the main) have wanted to hate her from the outset. She never stood a chance.
If Alice was such a manipulative actress playing the vulnerable card to secure votes why did she mess up her performance and know she would then have to leave BGT?
I find it strange that people pin 'Amy Winehouse wannabe' tag on Alice. Seriously who would 'wannabe' where AW is now or indeed was when she was alive with her problems? Alice sings nothing like her. More like Billy Holliday.
Alice is talented and should be recorded. Her live performance issues need to be worked on.
The parallels I see with Alice, AW and BH are they are/were all singing talents and the two latter had major issues that effected their performances. Their issues didn't hinder their talent or being stars.
I find it strange that people pin 'Amy Winehouse wannabe' tag on Alice. Seriously who would 'wannabe' where AW is now or indeed was when she was alive with her problems? Alice sings nothing like her. More like Billy Holliday.
Alice is talented and should be recorded. Her live performance issues need to be worked on.
The parallels I see with Alice, AW and BH are they are/were all singing talents and the two latter had major issues that effected their performances. Their issues didn't hinder their talent or being stars.
Originally Posted by jude007:
“I really do think that if she hadn't been on "The Voice" there is no way she would have even got through the 1st rounds.
I can imagine that she said in passing she had audition for "The Voice" and then they all thought what a perfect way to get back. So they tell her to come on shaking and crying on how her confidence was completely destroyed, Bad bad Voice, how could you do this.
The only thing is though was that she can't act and went OTT and that she also couldn't sing very well.
Again this is just my opinion, but I read an interview on "NOW" (at the Hairdressers) and I am sorry but I really do believe now it was all an act.
She wanted to 5 mins of fame and she has certainly got it. Hopefully now is has passed.”
“I really do think that if she hadn't been on "The Voice" there is no way she would have even got through the 1st rounds.
I can imagine that she said in passing she had audition for "The Voice" and then they all thought what a perfect way to get back. So they tell her to come on shaking and crying on how her confidence was completely destroyed, Bad bad Voice, how could you do this.
The only thing is though was that she can't act and went OTT and that she also couldn't sing very well.
Again this is just my opinion, but I read an interview on "NOW" (at the Hairdressers) and I am sorry but I really do believe now it was all an act.
She wanted to 5 mins of fame and she has certainly got it. Hopefully now is has passed.”
What a notion.
Originally Posted by Layzeegoat:
“Exactly (BIB)! This whole thing has been a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Poor girl went pieces precisely because of all the garbage that's been written about her over the past few weeks. Young women (in the main) have wanted to hate her from the outset. She never stood a chance.”
“Exactly (BIB)! This whole thing has been a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Poor girl went pieces precisely because of all the garbage that's been written about her over the past few weeks. Young women (in the main) have wanted to hate her from the outset. She never stood a chance.”
Nothing was said about her before her first BGT audition, and she was still playing the 'poor me' card.
Originally Posted by CARA2000:
“If Alice was such a manipulative actress playing the vulnerable card to secure votes why did she mess up her performance and know she would then have to leave BGT?”
“If Alice was such a manipulative actress playing the vulnerable card to secure votes why did she mess up her performance and know she would then have to leave BGT?”
Didn't you know it's all a conspiracy?
Clearly, she's as good an actress as she is a singer so surely world stardom is the next logical step.
(I'm trying to be sarcastic here - not to you Cara, but to the rest of the cynics
)It just makes me sad that people seem all to willing to pile in with the accusations of "fake" and "playing a card" when really, they don't know anything about her. Too many people seem to look at things with no understanding that many things in life aren't just black and white.
Don't get me wrong, I fully and unequivocally accept that there are many aspects of the show that are edited and presented in many different ways that are designed to tug at the heartstrings, but it doesn't necessarily mean that everyone is "fake".
If Alice has read even 10% of what has been written about her online, then I think it's more than understandable that nerves got the better of her and she fluffed her performance. No conspiracy. No "acting". No editing. No "fakeness". She was nervous - she screwed up. How is that so hard to understand?
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“Didn't you know it's all a conspiracy?
Clearly, she's as good an actress as she is a singer so surely world stardom is the next logical step.
(I'm trying to be sarcastic here - not to you Cara, but to the rest of the cynics)
It just makes me sad that people seem all to willing to pile in with the accusations of "fake" and "playing a card" when really, they don't know anything about her. Too many people seem to look at things with no understanding that many things in life aren't just black and white.
Don't get me wrong, I fully and unequivocally accept that there are many aspects of the show that are edited and presented in many different ways that are designed to tug at the heartstrings, but it doesn't necessarily mean that everyone is "fake".
If Alice has read even 10% of what has been written about her online, then I think it's more than understandable that nerves got the better of her and she fluffed her performance. No conspiracy. No "acting". No editing. No "fakeness". She was nervous - she screwed up. How is that so hard to understand?”
“Didn't you know it's all a conspiracy?
Clearly, she's as good an actress as she is a singer so surely world stardom is the next logical step.
(I'm trying to be sarcastic here - not to you Cara, but to the rest of the cynics
)It just makes me sad that people seem all to willing to pile in with the accusations of "fake" and "playing a card" when really, they don't know anything about her. Too many people seem to look at things with no understanding that many things in life aren't just black and white.
Don't get me wrong, I fully and unequivocally accept that there are many aspects of the show that are edited and presented in many different ways that are designed to tug at the heartstrings, but it doesn't necessarily mean that everyone is "fake".
If Alice has read even 10% of what has been written about her online, then I think it's more than understandable that nerves got the better of her and she fluffed her performance. No conspiracy. No "acting". No editing. No "fakeness". She was nervous - she screwed up. How is that so hard to understand?”
But the point is she was all bubbly before The Voice and that didn't work and BEFORE anything was written about her, she played the nervous little act on BGT in the first round. That why she was voted out in the a semi, most of he British public are not taken in just because she a pretty girl!
And she not a child for goodness sake, she 27, well past the 'little girl lost' image!
Originally Posted by myscimitar:
“But the point is she was all bubbly before The Voice and that didn't work and BEFORE anything was written about her”
“But the point is she was all bubbly before The Voice and that didn't work and BEFORE anything was written about her”
Think it through ..
She might have been "all bubbly" before The Voice and not getting through severely knocked her confidence. Coming out to audition for BGT, she's going to be nervous about getting knocked back again.
It really isn't rocket science.
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“Think it through ..
She might have been "all bubbly" before The Voice and not getting through severely knocked her confidence. Coming out to audition for BGT, she's going to be nervous about getting knocked back again.
It really isn't rocket science.”
“Think it through ..
She might have been "all bubbly" before The Voice and not getting through severely knocked her confidence. Coming out to audition for BGT, she's going to be nervous about getting knocked back again.
It really isn't rocket science.”
But she was way over the top, and as I said she not a child, she 27! Then she got to the semi's so should have had her confidence back.
Originally Posted by myscimitar:
“But she was way over the top, and as I said she not a child, she 27! Then she got to the semi's so should have had her confidence back.”
“But she was way over the top, and as I said she not a child, she 27! Then she got to the semi's so should have had her confidence back.”
Yes, because clearly confidence is something you can switch back on like a light switch .. especially when you may have spent the previous 7 days reading how much of a "fake" and "actress" you are ..
Personally I don't know whether the decision to go all shy and broken was hers or BGT's. The Voice audition was not that bad, sure they didn't turn round but they didn't rip her to shreds like judges on the X factor regularly do. The advice was constructive and justified. She did seem like a different person on the show... And tbh if she felt that was soul destroying criticism, enough to destroy her confidence (and if that is the case why then go on BGT anyway?) then she is in the wrong business. It is not nice to be rejected but you get it a lot in this industry. I reckon the producers saw the opportunity to get one up on The Voice and she was briefed to be like that. Unfortunately for her it backfired.
Then after her first BGT round, she did this Sun photoshoot and interview, then would you believe it, in the Semi's she back to the nervous wreck, if as said, she was really broken up by experience, then she looks full of confidence in this pic.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...the-voice.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...the-voice.html
Originally Posted by myscimitar:
“Then after her first BGT round, she did this Sun photoshoot and interview, then would you believe it, in the Semi's she back to the nervous wreck, if as said, she was really broken up by experience, then she looks full of confidence in this pic.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...the-voice.html”
“Then after her first BGT round, she did this Sun photoshoot and interview, then would you believe it, in the Semi's she back to the nervous wreck, if as said, she was really broken up by experience, then she looks full of confidence in this pic.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...the-voice.html”
Are you for real? Are you really claiming you can deduce her mental state from a picture?
But then you clearly must have skipped this part ...
Quote:
“She went on: “After The Voice aired lots of people said I’d totally changed and that I was a fake, which hurt.
“At The Voice I started to get distressed. One of the producers had to take me to one side to calm me down.
“I fell to pieces. I did freak out and wanted to clam up.””
“She went on: “After The Voice aired lots of people said I’d totally changed and that I was a fake, which hurt.
“At The Voice I started to get distressed. One of the producers had to take me to one side to calm me down.
“I fell to pieces. I did freak out and wanted to clam up.””
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz2UxB1Bf9L
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