Derek Laud. Vile man
Who were the meanest and hurtful housemates?
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again, another... rodrigo/sophie bb10.
in general, overall they were friendly and nice but i felt they had a darker, nastier side as well.. usually pertaining to a group situation.
(that group of kris/charlie/sophia that morphed into others later)
sophie started out friendly and nice to freddie but i felt as time went on there were times she was kind of harsh to him, laughing at him in an unkind way along with the group as if to mock him in a group dynamic that i didn't find amusing, etc.
but like i said, overall they seem like fairly nice people.. separate from the peer pressure of a group situation.
(i'm also trying to remember back when i watched it,, which was awhile ago so it's all a bit fuzzy, but i remember in particular not liking how sophie's relationship with freddie went forward)
in general, overall they were friendly and nice but i felt they had a darker, nastier side as well.. usually pertaining to a group situation.
(that group of kris/charlie/sophia that morphed into others later)
sophie started out friendly and nice to freddie but i felt as time went on there were times she was kind of harsh to him, laughing at him in an unkind way along with the group as if to mock him in a group dynamic that i didn't find amusing, etc.
but like i said, overall they seem like fairly nice people.. separate from the peer pressure of a group situation.
(i'm also trying to remember back when i watched it,, which was awhile ago so it's all a bit fuzzy, but i remember in particular not liking how sophie's relationship with freddie went forward)
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“When was Sophie ever nasty?
She was bullied quite mercilessly by Jade and Adele, and to some extent Alex as well.”
“When was Sophie ever nasty?
She was bullied quite mercilessly by Jade and Adele, and to some extent Alex as well.”
On her entrance she made a beeline for Lee, who had his eye on Adele, and was very (very very) smug about it, (probably nerves, she seemed otherwise pleasant) so it was a mutual dislike.
Jade and Adele were cackling about her "waving her giant vagina around"
Jonny an Alex were vile to each to each other too, and Sandy was horrible to everybody.
I dont know what it was about this series that set everyone against one another, because it started even before the divide.
Originally Posted by ABCZYX:
“Really? I have absolutely no recollection of that. I don't see Elizabeth as the sort of person who would do that.”
“Really? I have absolutely no recollection of that. I don't see Elizabeth as the sort of person who would do that.”
When Paul was evicted she told Helen that he had told her he was using her etc, and persisted with it for a long time. It was quite shocking.
Originally Posted by loveloveX:
“I mean of course we had our nasty pieces of works such as Conor, grace etc etc. but I want to know who the quiet nasties were, the not so obvious ones not necessarily out there bullies, but just mean or rude in a sly way or passive aggressive who ended up hurting people.
I think Darnell became like that with Sara.”
“I mean of course we had our nasty pieces of works such as Conor, grace etc etc. but I want to know who the quiet nasties were, the not so obvious ones not necessarily out there bullies, but just mean or rude in a sly way or passive aggressive who ended up hurting people.
I think Darnell became like that with Sara.”
Darnell surely comes into a different category. He wasn't quietly nasty, he failed to deal with her awe-inspiring flirtatiousness and became openly hostile.
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Jade was a horrible piece of work. .”
“Jade was a horrible piece of work. .”
Jade's conversation with Kate, trying to turn her against Sophie so that Sophie would have no allies, was a masterpiece of quiet venom.
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“although many will disagree, for me luke-a would be at the top of the list.. which i've gave very valid reasons in a number of different threads why i believe that.
(have no desire to get into that particular debate again, it's established that i believe strongly in that and others disagree strongly).”
“although many will disagree, for me luke-a would be at the top of the list.. which i've gave very valid reasons in a number of different threads why i believe that.
(have no desire to get into that particular debate again, it's established that i believe strongly in that and others disagree strongly).”
You mean apart from the fact that he was not mean and nasty and did not hurt anyone? YOu must know that none of the BB13 housemates would give your theory the time of day: even those who fell out with the outsiders said that he was a nice person.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Bea. Sniggering with Freddie about Lisa's poverty and job loss was a kind of BB10 low point; she then decided that Freddie was not the prestigious ally she had hoped and turned against him in turn.
Originally Posted by Alicey:
“Excluding the obvious nasties...Gerry was relentlessly nasty to Nicky in BB8.”
“Excluding the obvious nasties...Gerry was relentlessly nasty to Nicky in BB8.”
I missed that. What happened?
Originally Posted by Pollyusa:
“Jen BB9.”
“Jen BB9.”
Yes, but you wouldn't do that to a Picasso, would you?
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“Darnell surely comes into a different category. He wasn't quietly nasty, he failed to deal with her awe-inspiring flirtatiousness and became openly hostile.”
“Darnell surely comes into a different category. He wasn't quietly nasty, he failed to deal with her awe-inspiring flirtatiousness and became openly hostile.”
I think some people forget what Darnell was like during Spitgate and its aftermath. He told the Whisper Club in no uncertain terms that you can't justify spitting in someone's face and that the only people that were being nasty was them. He got a LOT of praise from people here. I think if BB9 had finished not long after Spitgate, Darnell could very easily have won.
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“Darnell surely comes into a different category. He wasn't quietly nasty, he failed to deal with her awe-inspiring flirtatiousness and became openly hostile.
Jade's conversation with Kate, trying to turn her against Sophie so that Sophie would have no allies, was a masterpiece of quiet venom.
You mean apart from the fact that he was not mean and nasty and did not hurt anyone? YOu must know that none of the BB13 housemates would give your theory the time of day: even those who fell out with the outsiders said that he was a nice person.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Bea. Sniggering with Freddie about Lisa's poverty and job loss was a kind of BB10 low point; she then decided that Freddie was not the prestigious ally she had hoped and turned against him in turn.”
“Darnell surely comes into a different category. He wasn't quietly nasty, he failed to deal with her awe-inspiring flirtatiousness and became openly hostile.
Jade's conversation with Kate, trying to turn her against Sophie so that Sophie would have no allies, was a masterpiece of quiet venom.
You mean apart from the fact that he was not mean and nasty and did not hurt anyone? YOu must know that none of the BB13 housemates would give your theory the time of day: even those who fell out with the outsiders said that he was a nice person.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Bea. Sniggering with Freddie about Lisa's poverty and job loss was a kind of BB10 low point; she then decided that Freddie was not the prestigious ally she had hoped and turned against him in turn.”
Luke wasn't perfect and did say some horrible things but no more than most as far as I can remember.
The pressure definitely brings out the worst in people and probably every housemate behaves out of character at some point.
Craig from BB6 had a horrible side IMO. He was quite a good housemate though when you take that away and contributed a lot to his series with the whole Anthony thing and being unintentionally funny.
Originally Posted by ABCZYX:
“I think some people forget what Darnell was like during Spitgate and its aftermath. He told the Whisper Club in no uncertain terms that you can't justify spitting in someone's face and that the only people that were being nasty was them. He got a LOT of praise from people here. I think if BB9 had finished not long after Spitgate, Darnell could very easily have won.”
“I think some people forget what Darnell was like during Spitgate and its aftermath. He told the Whisper Club in no uncertain terms that you can't justify spitting in someone's face and that the only people that were being nasty was them. He got a LOT of praise from people here. I think if BB9 had finished not long after Spitgate, Darnell could very easily have won.”
He went through a period each night when he was a bit "poor me" and depressive, and then would snap out of it quickly.
I read the other day that he was in a porn film with Billi Bhatti
(not that it has anything to do with the thread)
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“He went through a period each night when he was a bit "poor me" and depressive, and then would snap out of it quickly.”
“He went through a period each night when he was a bit "poor me" and depressive, and then would snap out of it quickly.”
He was, but IIRC, he wasn't like that by the time Spitgate happened.
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“You mean apart from the fact that he was not mean and nasty and did not hurt anyone? YOu must know that none of the BB13 housemates would give your theory the time of day: even those who fell out with the outsiders said that he was a nice person.
.”
“You mean apart from the fact that he was not mean and nasty and did not hurt anyone? YOu must know that none of the BB13 housemates would give your theory the time of day: even those who fell out with the outsiders said that he was a nice person.
.”
the idea of the thread was subtle where it wasn't so obvious, most of the people being mentioned do not fit that requirement.
luke-a does (and the others i've mentioned) in my opinion, in which i am entitled to my own personal opinion.
as to the housemates not agreeing.
they weren't observing from my viewpoint and don't have the same experiences that i do, ie, they don't share my perspectives/viewpoints/perceptions.
for example:
a girlfriend can think she's in love with her boyfriend, and think he's the greatest guy ever.. she exists within that perception/perspective and would defend it until she was blue in the face, it was her truth within her perception/perspective... one day she finds out he wasn't what she thought and a shift occurs.
another person familiar with this side of the boyfriend would view him in a different way than she did because that person had a different perspective/perception.
his parents would view him within another perspective/perception.
his prostitute, his guy friends, his priest, his car salesman, his bartender, etc, etc, etc
the point being there are many perspectives/perceptions that are unique within certain experiences and observations.
Ashleigh, she really had it in for Lauren and tried to make a dig at any given chance, she even had the cheek to brand her a chav.
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“the idea of the thread was subtle where it wasn't so obvious, most of the people being mentioned do not fit that requirement.
luke-a does (and the others i've mentioned) in my opinion, in which i am entitled to my own personal opinion.
as to the housemates not agreeing.
they weren't observing from my viewpoint and don't have the same experiences that i do, ie, they don't share my perspectives/viewpoints.
for example:
a girlfriend can think she's in love with her boyfriend, and think he's the greatest guy ever.. she exists within that perception/perspective and would defend it until she was blue in the face, it was her truth within her perception/perspective... one day she finds out he wasn't what she thought and a shift occurs.
another person familiar with this side of the boyfriend would view him in a different way than she did because that person had a different perspective/perception.
his parents would view him within another perspective/perception.
his prostitute, his guy friends, his priest, his car salesman, his bartender, etc, etc, etc
the point being there are many perspectives/perceptions that are unique within certain experiences and observations.”
“the idea of the thread was subtle where it wasn't so obvious, most of the people being mentioned do not fit that requirement.
luke-a does (and the others i've mentioned) in my opinion, in which i am entitled to my own personal opinion.
as to the housemates not agreeing.
they weren't observing from my viewpoint and don't have the same experiences that i do, ie, they don't share my perspectives/viewpoints.
for example:
a girlfriend can think she's in love with her boyfriend, and think he's the greatest guy ever.. she exists within that perception/perspective and would defend it until she was blue in the face, it was her truth within her perception/perspective... one day she finds out he wasn't what she thought and a shift occurs.
another person familiar with this side of the boyfriend would view him in a different way than she did because that person had a different perspective/perception.
his parents would view him within another perspective/perception.
his prostitute, his guy friends, his priest, his car salesman, his bartender, etc, etc, etc
the point being there are many perspectives/perceptions that are unique within certain experiences and observations.”
I find it fascinating how we all see different things on the same show.
Of course, when we had a choice of cameras for live feed some of us really were seeing a different side.
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“Also, Charlie, BB10. He was downright cruel sometimes, and defended his actions as "only having a laugh". Like when he soaked Angel with a water balloon, reducing her to tears. He also got involved in the Siavash girlfriend controversy when it had NOTHING to do with him, and I remember, when they read magazine articles, he read a scathing comment from Bex (BB9), and called her something along the lines of a "silly fat bitch". I didn't like her, but weight jibes piss me off. He also admitted that he assumed that the public would see him as the most deserving housemate to win because of his mother's story.”
“Also, Charlie, BB10. He was downright cruel sometimes, and defended his actions as "only having a laugh". Like when he soaked Angel with a water balloon, reducing her to tears. He also got involved in the Siavash girlfriend controversy when it had NOTHING to do with him, and I remember, when they read magazine articles, he read a scathing comment from Bex (BB9), and called her something along the lines of a "silly fat bitch". I didn't like her, but weight jibes piss me off. He also admitted that he assumed that the public would see him as the most deserving housemate to win because of his mother's story.”
Agreed, I remember a funny poster making a joke about Charlie's diary, something about having a disabled friend and pushing her down the stairs but he did it "for a laff, I've got a heart of gold!"
He was particularly nasty to Freddie, at one point Freddie may have fancied him, he handled that very poorly. Also there was one night he started screeching at him for no reason
Stephanie Beacham was pretty nasty, she referred to Katia and Sovereign as "parasites". Now I found Sov pretty moody and she had an attitude but she's far from parasitic
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“I find it fascinating how we all see different things on the same show.
Of course, when we had a choice of cameras for live feed some of us really were seeing a different side.”
“I find it fascinating how we all see different things on the same show.
Of course, when we had a choice of cameras for live feed some of us really were seeing a different side.
”
indeed, we are all unique in some way.
i doubt any two people travel on the exact same path (thought/emotional/observation/physical, etc). perfectly exact... throughout their entire life and so that would cause each and every person to have a slightly different perception/perspective basis, even if it was microscopic.
as everything on journey effects/shapes us in some way, some much bigger than others.
there's room for all of our unique perspectives/perceptions because in some way they are true to ourselves, even if it's briefly and in their time.
that's basically a fancy way to say we all have our own opinions, haha.
there are of course, factual things where that doesn't apply.. it would be hard to say 3 + 3 didn't equal 6 for example.
i suppose a creative person could come up with a reason it doesn't but that would start to make my head hurt at this time.
Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“Charley Uchea BB8 Vile Woman”
“Charley Uchea BB8 Vile Woman”
It was so transparent though and she deliberately did all that. I can't believe Luke Marsden was mentioned too, he was just bitchy, not close to the way Caroline was.
I always remember his 100k thing, he said it about Rachel and Darnell.
Originally Posted by dan_:
“Craig from BB6 had a horrible side IMO. He was quite a good housemate though when you take that away and contributed a lot to his series with the whole Anthony thing and being unintentionally funny.
I don't think Nikki was nasty really, she had her bitchy moments but she got over arguments quite easily. Literally the day after "I hate Susie, WHO IS SHE?!" she was in the diary room saying how much she liked her, lol. Same with Lea and Richard, she couldnt stand them one minute but loved them the next.The feud with Aisleyne was an exception but that boils down to jealousy IMO and people can be nasty when they are jealous.
A HM I didn't find nasty but others do (not mentioned in this thread but has been said elsewhere) is Kemal. What did he do that was so horrible? He was bitchy yes but easily one of the nicest BB6 HMs.”
“Craig from BB6 had a horrible side IMO. He was quite a good housemate though when you take that away and contributed a lot to his series with the whole Anthony thing and being unintentionally funny.
I don't think Nikki was nasty really, she had her bitchy moments but she got over arguments quite easily. Literally the day after "I hate Susie, WHO IS SHE?!" she was in the diary room saying how much she liked her, lol. Same with Lea and Richard, she couldnt stand them one minute but loved them the next.The feud with Aisleyne was an exception but that boils down to jealousy IMO and people can be nasty when they are jealous.
A HM I didn't find nasty but others do (not mentioned in this thread but has been said elsewhere) is Kemal. What did he do that was so horrible? He was bitchy yes but easily one of the nicest BB6 HMs.”
Craig was really nasty, I'd hate to have been in the house with him, this is overlooked because of the series he was in and the sexual pestering of Anthony (and it was, if it was a straight male doing that to a female it'd be a different story)
Nikki was nasty in my opinion, but it isn't her fault, she's spent so much of her life inside psychiatric hospitals I don't believe she's matured like everyone else.
Kemal wasn't that nasty but he was mildy mean to Orlaith. She was a tool
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“It was so transparent though and she deliberately did all that. I can't believe Luke Marsden was mentioned too, he was just bitchy, not close to the way Caroline was.
I always remember his 100k thing, he said it about Rachel and Darnell.”
“It was so transparent though and she deliberately did all that. I can't believe Luke Marsden was mentioned too, he was just bitchy, not close to the way Caroline was.
I always remember his 100k thing, he said it about Rachel and Darnell.”
He was a miserable cowardly git and made a prat of himself on the final.
Derek.
As much as I liked him as a housemate, he had a habit of picking on the most vulnerable female in the house (Mary, Sam, Orlaith) and grinding them down until they fought back, at which point they looked like the aggressors.
His "jokes are not my suit" rant at Sam remains incredibly bizarre viewing.
As much as I liked him as a housemate, he had a habit of picking on the most vulnerable female in the house (Mary, Sam, Orlaith) and grinding them down until they fought back, at which point they looked like the aggressors.
His "jokes are not my suit" rant at Sam remains incredibly bizarre viewing.
Originally Posted by BBWorldWideFan:
“He was a miserable cowardly git and made a prat of himself on the final.”
“He was a miserable cowardly git and made a prat of himself on the final.”
He played up to it. Funny and annoying to some.
I found Bea the most chillingly nasty. It was akin to psychological torture the way she treated Freddie. 
Originally Posted by Alicey:
“Excluding the obvious nasties...Gerry was relentlessly nasty to Nicky in BB8.”
“Excluding the obvious nasties...Gerry was relentlessly nasty to Nicky in BB8.”
I do wonder how Liam and Nicky would have developed had Carole and Gerry not dripped poison in his ear about her.
Inspite of the fact people on this forum loved him for some reason Marcus in BB10 had a real nasty streak
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