thank you.
"Let's throw this dirty garment back in the baaathhhh"

We've had some right bastards haven't we? :shock:

caroline from last year was one of my most disliked ever.

Interesting topic. Well, if it's a sly kind of thing we're talking about, then arguably two of the three biggest names in the shows history - the other one being Brian Dowling who most certainly wasn't - have got to be up there as the slyest of the lost. Slyest, is that a word?

Jade and Nicky Graham. I still remember big brother seven launch night when Nicky started bitching about Grace, approximately six seconds after meeting her.

As for Jade, her treatment of Sophie in her series - and, on the quiet, her attempt to isolate Kate - left me in no doubt that 'her' celebrity year would turn in to an unmitigated disaster for the show. Mind you, not for a second did I think it'd get as bad as it did that year.

I'd certainly say Aaron Allard , his passive-aggressive routine was relentless and horrible , I found it very uncomfortable to watch so it must've been far worse being stuck in there with him

I seem to recall that in the week when everyone except him and Becky were up for eviction he started to b***h about Caroline thus trying to distance himself from her actions.

I think it was the one, who said boom boom pow....or whatever she said. they chucked her out and someone went round to her house and smashed her windows.

she was a vile specimen

Nicky and Grace already knew each other. I think they worked together in a department store.

I agree. But I think caroline was a very bitter young thing but her personality was a victim of her privaledged, shallow, competitive lifestyle and of her high intelligence. She wasn't pleasant to watch.

Alex from BB9??

I remember her having a go, on religious grounds at Mo for dressing up as a woman


Tracy from BB8 totally lost it with Gerry when she found out during a task that he had been lying about his age which always struck me as something completely ridiculous to get so upset about.

only bas3ed on he ones ive watched il say jade goddy what a horrible womn she was how she becme so popular im still baffled, but its a shame she died tho nobody deserved that, also il say alecxandra i mean come on threatening to shoot people, il also add grace to that list those are the top 3.

I think a lot of Anton's words and behaviour were an unsuccessful attempt to construct a persona. It is an interesting ethical question whether pretending to be rather horrible is as horrible as really being horrible.

I am sure there were times when Aaron had uncharitable thoughts about the other housemates, but we are being asked who was mean and hurtful, and he wasn't, or only on rare occasions. His anger with Jay and Louise over the birthday presents was a rare occasion when he took the risk of insulting another housemate; perhaps because he was too angry to stop himself, perhaps because he rightly calculated that he could carry the public with him. But you will look in vain for a lot of hostile and spiteful things from Aaron's mouth.

yes thats correct they did

I'm not sure,I think it's fairly sad though.I do see what you mean though,so many housemates are now so BB aware that they assume the 'winning personality'.

I must emphasise not the obvious meanies, the ones who it was clear to everyone they were, I mean the ones you that weren't so out there but In moments you could see they a mean side, it could even be to just one person they singled out and their behaviour really hurt someone not necessary that there were big shouting matches and insults flying everywhere.

I mean the passive aggressive nature, or constantly being rude to or about someone, excluding them etc.

I though of another one stuart bb9, I don't he liked anyone, cared for anyone but himself, was always moody, never said a nice thing to anyone, seemed to ignore most.

Caroline has to be in the top 3 IMO. Awful woman.

Carole.

I don't remember him being exactly nasty and spiteful, but really, why was he there? He seemed to moon around in a massive misery all the time. What with him and Jennifer, it wasn't a good year for parents of young children.

Marcus BB10 who was idolised here,a horrible man.
Carole aka Ma Baker, words could not express how awful this woman was.
Derek BB6 just nasty.
Jason BB5- nasty and mean.
Josie -aggressive and nasty.

Well that's my point, that was his nature and it must have been difficult to live with because of that he was careless and couldn't give one about anyone and didnt talk to anyone in a nice way especially mo and to do that continuously would hurt I think.

It seemed at times as if Anton was trying to impersonate Victor ie, openly admitting in the DR that he was playing a game

I think only a small proportion of his unpleasant words and behaviour were part of his (Victor imitation) "persona". It was mostly just a few times in the DR.

As with Spencer in the last CBB I found the boundary hard to gauge. Both of them had moments when they seemed a bit distressed by the situation they were in. Didn't Anton actually cry when Aden was evicted and say repeatedly that it should have been him?

Yes, I don't think Luke was one of the meanest or most hurtful HMs, but there were signs that Luke wasn't as nice as he usually seemed. (I mean such things as snapping at Sara, the 'minge' comment, the 'bmi' comment, disrespectful guy-talk about the women, and not caring what Becky thought.)

And sometimes there'd be a big 'course correction' after. For instance, after he'd shown Becky he wouldn't stand for her nonsense. Like lightdragon, I thought it was good that he stood his ground.


Unfortunately, he later backtracked like mad and became woeful in the DR. It's hard to avoid the suspicion that his first response was real and reversal was damage limitation, because he was worried about how HMs or viewers would react.


I think Sun Tzu's post said why. It wasn't just the opinion that she might have won. It also, it seemed to me, offered the reason that she was lovey while Luke "(came) across as some one who wasn't as nice as we might think." The idea may have been that that difference between them might have become more apparent as time went on.

Re "He beat her in a one to one. There was no reason why anyone who had voted for him then would have stopped voting for him later" --

For a start, there are reasons why some who voted against Lauren that week might have felt differently at other times. I think Luke might even have lost against Lauren earlier that week, if the vote had been held then. Lauren might well have survived that week if Luke hadn't got involved re her and Adam's relationship (regardless of what Luke's intentions were).

Agreed. At the time I thought it was only how he thought the public would take it that mattered, as Becky had been the viewers choice to enter.