What does inside the house have to do with it? What's supposed to be the connection between that and Lauren being evicted? What's it supposed to have to do with the case against Luke? It's never been that he did something that turned housemates against her?

Re outside, I don't think it's at all likely that what you say can be true, because it would mean that Thursday's highlights and BOTS had not impact. You're in effect claiming that opinions had become completely detached from events in the house earlier in the week.

There was btw a very noticeable change on BOTS after the events Luke set in motion. I suppose you'll claim that was coincidence or didn't happen or was somehow caused by something earlier.


How did it become about "if Luke had gone"?

Brian Dowling was actually qite nasty to Josh in Big Brother 2. Very jealous which was laughed off whereas Sam's treatment by Lesley wasn't.

Oh and Dale BB9 was vile filth to Rachel on BBBM.

A woman in the audience said she was a Rachel fan and he jumped on the fact that she happened to be Welsh.

So if someone from the north of England was a fan of him that would be because of that

I feel the same way. Like he'd make all these comments and then act like he's being victimised.

I think Dale's main problem was a total lack of self belief. He seemed completely different when a few other housemates had left the house - indeed he and Rachel had a quite pleasant conversation one day, where she confirmed he'd changed and he accepted it. Once outside the house unfortunately he appeared to revert to type. Anyone who's seen the final will remember Luke's disgusted sneering and gesturing at Rachel and the crowd. If you look closely, there was Dale sitting right next to him, a huge grin on his face, applauding Luke's frankly ridiculous behaviour.

All what comments?

Like comments about Becky's BMI, cheeky comments behind people's backs, not that the outsiders weren't doing it as well, but I felt like he had the tendency to act like a victim more often, he wasn't a victim.

Gerry's treatment of Nicky was really nasty. He even tried to get Liam and Ziggy to join in his bullying campaign, suggesting they use her insecurities about her weight as a weapon... 'let's make her crack'

Lauren and Adam were coaxed into having the conversation when they probably didn't want it-they hadn't shown any interest in that conversation.It would better been left until after Lauren stayed(or if she left-no need).Luke showed a surprising interest in prompting it if you assume he wanted lauren to stay and realised it could be harmful.The correct interpretation is that he thought it might help Lauren stay-albeit others would disagree-rather than try to pass it off as not important-it was critical as it turned out.

You can bet that if it was Mikey that had won and a Scottish audience member had said that they liked him, he wouldn't say that they happened to be Scottish.


Dale was a coward. I remember a few weeks in, a few days before Spitgate, he was in the garden talking to Dennis and Jen, and he was bitching about Rex. Rex however, happened to be nearby and when Jen pointed him out, Dale shut up. Rex had heard every word and tried to get him to explain what he meant, but Dale couldn't give him a straight answer and didn't make much sense. He couldn't get away quick enough.

that was an absolutely classic moment in BB

Carole from BB8.

Horrible manipulative woman

STFU Carole

Dale also booed Rachel as she was introduced on the Saturday edition of BBBM, tht followed her win!

Isn't that just normal human behaviour.

Most people are like that

Pete Burns by a mile

Just an awful man

Josie BB11
Carole *ewwwww cringes* BB8
Lisa BB10
Bea BB10
Conor BB13

my top 5, all as bad as each other, totally horrible.

That was one 10 word comment, and was obviously sparked off by some unpleasant behaviour from becky.
And he obviously WAS a victim to some extent: why do you think Ashleigh and Sheivonne had a conversation about how stupid it was that Luke S refused to listen to him? What did you think of Caroline's jeering at him, including pretending that he was camp? What did you think about Becky abruptly turning against someone who saw her as a friend when she thought the power and success in the house lay elsewhere?

Do you mean the Big Mouth that took place straight after the final on the Friday night? Or the BBLB reunion show on the Sunday? Anyway, he actually didn't boo her in either, even though he was very mouthy on Big Mouth.

Big Mouth (23:50) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r60y...lya2s&index=88

BBLB (36:40) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6kC3...lya2s&index=89

From memory, I was sure that he did, as I got angry about it. I will have to watch those through again!