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Old 30-05-2013, 20:07
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I mean seriously, what the hell. The acts came in for the auditions and many did some great performances... and now in the semis there are some horrendous choices going on. Steve Pink was an absolute car crash... yet in his audition he was elegant and he was great. The cool black girl singer from the other night also had a horrendous act and started dancing like a lunatic, which is the opposite of what she originally came on to do.

I refuse to believe the experienced producers are so naturally incompetent as to completely ruin acts in such a way as to make them almost unrecognisable from what we saw before.
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Old 30-05-2013, 20:08
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Purposely sabotaging.

People keep telling me on these boards that it is absolutely impossible that the voting is rigged. So if thats the case then its just every other part the producers have to rig in order to get the right result.
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Old 30-05-2013, 20:11
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They are purposely sabotaging some acts , its a disgrace!
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Old 30-05-2013, 20:43
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They do it on purpose and I'm shocked to see that some people still can't see this and all the other manipulation that goes on.
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Old 30-05-2013, 20:45
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don't know why the panel are angry with the act
the producers should be sacked after tonight shocking production values/Ideas
and instead of placing some of these people on another night it seems they just lumped a lot together.
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Old 30-05-2013, 20:48
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Draw is everything, the producers can affect the results in a way they want.

It's pretty clear which acts get thrown under a bus and which don't
For example they don't want 2 young dance troops, not too many singers e.t.c.
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Old 30-05-2013, 20:59
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don't know why the panel are angry with the act
the producers should be sacked after tonight shocking production values/Ideas
and instead of placing some of these people on another night it seems they just lumped a lot together.
Yeah I find it strange how there were so many awful acts in the first live semi and some crap ended up going through, whereas in this one there were 4 or so great acts that could have reallymade it a fantastic finale, and most will go out.

But yup, sheer cynical manipulation.
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Old 30-05-2013, 21:01
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Neither. I don't think they care who wins or who loses, just making good TV - and car crash TV is very popular. Look how many viewers those "worst audition" shows get.

No matter what you write in a contract, if it was common practice for them to FORCE acts to do something they are completely against, those acts wouldn't have stayed quiet.
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Old 30-05-2013, 21:06
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I totally agree! Why can't they let the acts come on and do what they did to get through to the semis. Good acts totally ruined by ridiculous staging
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Old 30-05-2013, 21:09
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Purposely putting acts through into the semis which aren't that good against acts which they can push through to the final a whole lot easier than if they had real competition.

I think it's absolutely clear that there have been far better acts than the pink magician guy and juggler which haven't been put through. But then those better acts would be in danger of getting more votes than who Simon would like to get into the final.
I don't see how given how good some acts who have been eliminated before the semis were that it could be down to coincidence.
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Old 30-05-2013, 21:11
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They are purposely sabotaging some acts , its a disgrace!
It certainly is. It is clear that Cowell is only interested in a few acts.
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Old 30-05-2013, 21:11
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He was crap end of .
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Old 30-05-2013, 21:13
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Neither. I don't think they care who wins or who loses, just making good TV - and car crash TV is very popular. Look how many viewers those "worst audition" shows get.

No matter what you write in a contract, if it was common practice for them to FORCE acts to do something they are completely against, those acts wouldn't have stayed quiet.
Of course they don't FORCE the acts.. but they DO influence them heavily, whisper in their ear, and tell them that this is what the judges and the public want to see. And as the less unique acts are mostly none the wiser and see this as their big break, of course they go along with it. That is sabotage.

Besides, the "worst audition" shows have nothing to do with what we are talking about... which is good auditions that do a terrible live show performance.
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Old 30-05-2013, 21:40
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Yeah I find it strange how there were so many awful acts in the first live semi and some crap ended up going through, whereas in this one there were 4 or so great acts that could have reallymade it a fantastic finale, and most will go out.

But yup, sheer cynical manipulation.
Are you for real? Awful acts in the first semi? Crap acts going through? Tonight was by far the worst semi so far with at least 4 dreadful acts. No one in this semi would have stood a chance of going through in Monday's semi.
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Old 30-05-2013, 21:41
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Neither. I don't think they care who wins or who loses, just making good TV - and car crash TV is very popular. Look how many viewers those "worst audition" shows get.

No matter what you write in a contract, if it was common practice for them to FORCE acts to do something they are completely against, those acts wouldn't have stayed quiet.
How many contestants would dare stand up to the BGT production bods, though? The production bods call all the shots and have the power. Add to that, the fact that many of the contestants would do pretty much anything to get on telly and won't want to rock the boat and risk losing their chance.

A couple of years ago, there was a girl who sang Single Ladies in one of the semi-finals. It was completely different to her normal singing style (she was similar to Alice from this year) and it was blindingly obvious that she would never have chosen that song in a million years! When it came to the judges' comments, Simon predictably slated her for her poor song choice She started to say something about it not being her choice at all and was quickly shushed by Ant and Dec.
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Old 30-05-2013, 21:46
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I don't know why people are surprised at this - it goes on in xfactor as well. How many times have we heard the acts (on being criticised on their song choice) state that this was down to the production staff.
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Old 30-05-2013, 21:54
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It seems more obvious with BGT (more so than with XF). I know the judges always put it down to the contestant if they haven't delivered the goods - but it seems a bit too obvious who *they* want to go through.
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Old 30-05-2013, 21:56
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Are you for real? Awful acts in the first semi? Crap acts going through? Tonight was by far the worst semi so far with at least 4 dreadful acts. No one in this semi would have stood a chance of going through in Monday's semi.
The first semi was by far the worst of the lot, tonight there were some much, much better acts.
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Old 30-05-2013, 22:04
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Neither. I don't think they care who wins or who loses, just making good TV - and car crash TV is very popular. Look how many viewers those "worst audition" shows get.

No matter what you write in a contract, if it was common practice for them to FORCE acts to do something they are completely against, those acts wouldn't have stayed quiet.
Yes, but those acts wouldn't exist and we'd never get to hear of them again. we only get to see acts who agree to contracts, clauses and the like.

I'm sure that acts in the past may not have agreed to certain conditions. But then why would we ever hear of them if they never even go on to the main shows?

In fact I'm sure that I read something either on here or linked to from here about an act who didn't agree to a contract Simon Cowell offered her to not work for a year. She refused while her friend went on to go onto his show.
I don't know which show it was. It was either BGT or X Factor.
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Old 30-05-2013, 22:38
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They obviously take them aside and positivley tell the act what they think they should do and how this would be best for them to get through, they know who they want through and they know who they don't. They just want huge ratings and money spent on voting and thats why they do it.
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Old 30-05-2013, 22:51
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They do it on purpose and I'm shocked to see that some people still can't see this and all the other manipulation that goes on.
I saw through Cowell and Co's Manipulation for yearsTBH, glad more and more people are getting wise to it at last though.
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Old 31-05-2013, 02:36
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Gotta keep those phone lines ringing raking in the cash guys.
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Old 31-05-2013, 02:50
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They do it on purpose and I'm shocked to see that some people still can't see this and all the other manipulation that goes on.
Strange how they always put the act they want through on last.
And 'last' always gets through.
Not fixed... Just a coincidence
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Old 31-05-2013, 04:18
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The last act has an advantage as more people will be watching later on in the show. If they do a good performance they are then more likely to go through. But thats different to it being fixed.

I do think its a bit tedious the discussion of: "Tonights semi was better," "no Mondays semi was better," "no tonights was" which can go on forever.
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Old 31-05-2013, 07:07
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Some of the acts are clearly just seen as fillers and are not put in the semis with the intention of giving them a chance to go further. I felt really sorry for Stevie Pink as I really like his audition and he was clearly screwed over on the live show. If they go along with the producers, then they are basically talked into making an arse of themselves but if they don't then it's "leaked" to the papers that they are big headed divas. When BGT started, it was actually quite good and I thought it was great that we were getting to see variety on tv again but as with all Cowell productions, it has turned into a caricature of itself. I'm pretty sure his next television event will involve christians and lions.
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