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highlander1969
03-05-2015
Originally Posted by ClareB:
“Love the charts from this time, so it's such a shame that so many good songs have to be skipped. Glad there is a full top 40 chart of this on mixcloud.”

Mixcloud is really good. I'm guessing that's Owen Andrew's posting you're referring to? He's put some great Top 40's up. I've just joined his Facebook page.
highlander1969
03-05-2015
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“Very far from perfect, it had one of the worst Top 2s ever and the Number 4 was pretty rubbish as well. How anyone could spend good money on that utter dirge Ebony & Ivory is beyond me.

However, it also had two of my favourite singles of all time, but unfortunately they weren't played. Ain't No Pleasing You and the sublime Give Me Back My Heart. Other good songs were Forget Me Nots, Dear John, Pigbag, View From A Bridge and (not played) My Camera Never Lies. Hated Haircut One Hundred and thought PhD was quite bland.”

I thought it was a fantastic chart this week. I guess it falls into my favourite chart era (namely 1981-84). I even love the Top 2!
Rich Tea.
03-05-2015
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“Very far from perfect, it had one of the worst Top 2s ever and the Number 4 was pretty rubbish as well. How anyone could spend good money on that utter dirge Ebony & Ivory is beyond me.

However, it also had two of my favourite singles of all time, but unfortunately they weren't played. Ain't No Pleasing You and the sublime Give Me Back My Heart. Other good songs were Forget Me Nots, Dear John, Pigbag, View From A Bridge and (not played) My Camera Never Lies. Hated Haircut One Hundred and thought PhD was quite bland.”

Originally Posted by highlander1969:
“I thought it was a fantastic chart this week. I guess it falls into my favourite chart era (namely 1981-84). I even love the Top 2! ”

I've got part of the original Sunday night, 25th April 1982 top forty on Radio 1 from the chart of the previous week to this with Tommy Vance on tape. It's my oldest recorded blank tape infact, a BASF C-90 that I got for Christmas 1981. I'd re-recorded over it a few times before I finally left it at April 1982 and am thankful I did.

It was a great top two. I love Ebony & Ivory. I know a lot of people slate it for whatever reason and I don't really understand why. The Bardo track is one of the UK's best ever Eurovision entries too. I won't argue that the England footy track at No4 was shite and a good miss. The Scottish one was just about to join it in the top ten too, ugh. I'm sure you love it Highlander, but I wonder if you are one of those Scots who goes anyone but England when you are not in World Cup's? I hate footy anyway! I'm in agreement with Boz and as I have mentioned previously on here, Dollar's Trevor Horn produced hit Give Me Back My Heart is one of my all time fave pop hits too. I thought that the Shaky hit, Shirley, was one of his weakest and one of the worst from the chart even though I quite like him generally. But what classy tracks with Roxy Music, Elton John, Shalamar and Shakatak, and PhD is far from bland. A classic Simple Minds single but a bog standard typical Status Quo one. It really was a shame that Monsoon's Ever So Lonely was not played yet again, even though it was rising the twenty.

Boz says it was one of the worst top two's ever. Not a chance and not even remotely close. Nearer to a best than worst for me. Highlander Ian we're in rock solid agreement yet again. Now there's a surprise.
Boz_Lowdownl
03-05-2015
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“I've got part of the original Sunday night, 25th April 1982 top forty on Radio 1 from the chart of the previous week to this with Tommy Vance on tape. It's my oldest recorded blank tape infact, a BASF C-90 that I got for Christmas 1981. I'd re-recorded over it a few times before I finally left it at April 1982 and am thankful I did.

It was a great top two. I love Ebony & Ivory. I know a lot of people slate it for whatever reason and I don't really understand why. The Bardo track is one of the UK's best ever Eurovision entries too. I won't argue that the England footy track at No4 was shite and a good miss. The Scottish one was just about to join it in the top ten too, ugh. I'm sure you love it Highlander, but I wonder if you are one of those Scots who goes anyone but England when you are not in World Cup's? I hate footy anyway! I'm in agreement with Boz and as I have mentioned previously on here, Dollar's Trevor Horn produced hit Give Me Back My Heart is one of my all time fave pop hits too. I thought that the Shaky hit, Shirley, was one of his weakest and one of the worst from the chart even though I quite like him generally. But what classy tracks with Roxy Music, Elton John, Shalamar and Shakatak, and PhD is far from bland. A classic Simple Minds single but a bog standard typical Status Quo one. It really was a shame that Monsoon's Ever So Lonely was not played yet again, even though it was rising the twenty.

Boz says it was one of the worst top two's ever. Not a chance and not even remotely close. Nearer to a best than worst for me. Highlander Ian we're in rock solid agreement yet again. Now there's a surprise. ”

I stick to my opinion of the Top 2! . I really hate the Number 1 with a passion! Such a dull tune and crass lyrics. Put two greats together and you end up with this dross. Mainly a great chart, yet the public bought more copies of this single than any other.

Although the England songs were bad, the Scottish one was brill, almost certainly the best footie song ever (along with Three Lions). I think you are unfairly dismissive of the Status Quo song. I am not a massive fan of theirs but Dear John is easily one of their best
Rich Tea.
04-05-2015
1982 had this week in '82 just been knocked off the top spot for Status Quo, by none other than the only week ever that Barry Manilow topped the UK album chart with a live album Barry Live In Britain.

This weekend in 1982 was also one of the lowest points in the nation's recent history at the height of the Falklands conflict with our ships getting torpedoed. The famous Sun headline "GOTCHA" was on this date, 4th May 1982. I may not have even become a teenager at that point by a few weeks but this time in 1982 seems so fresh in my memory for so many reasons as well as the great music.

Ebony and Ivory seemed to resonate with its sentiments at the time of the Falklands conflict when it was No1 with lines about "living together in perfect harmony" which may be a bit cloying to some but are still ideals to be cherished. The next chart topper was A Little Peace. Were those two tracks being No1 in the UK right through the conflict just a coincidence?
Boz_Lowdownl
04-05-2015
Not much discussion about the 1974 chart, which was pretty good as well and had a far better Top 2 (sorry Rich!). I actually really like the Number 20 but quite right it wasn't played as it was going down the chart
highlander1969
04-05-2015
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“I've got part of the original Sunday night, 25th April 1982 top forty on Radio 1 from the chart of the previous week to this with Tommy Vance on tape. It's my oldest recorded blank tape infact, a BASF C-90 that I got for Christmas 1981. I'd re-recorded over it a few times before I finally left it at April 1982 and am thankful I did.

It was a great top two. I love Ebony & Ivory. I know a lot of people slate it for whatever reason and I don't really understand why. The Bardo track is one of the UK's best ever Eurovision entries too. I won't argue that the England footy track at No4 was shite and a good miss. The Scottish one was just about to join it in the top ten too, ugh. I'm sure you love it Highlander, but I wonder if you are one of those Scots who goes anyone but England when you are not in World Cup's? I hate footy anyway! I'm in agreement with Boz and as I have mentioned previously on here, Dollar's Trevor Horn produced hit Give Me Back My Heart is one of my all time fave pop hits too. I thought that the Shaky hit, Shirley, was one of his weakest and one of the worst from the chart even though I quite like him generally. But what classy tracks with Roxy Music, Elton John, Shalamar and Shakatak, and PhD is far from bland. A classic Simple Minds single but a bog standard typical Status Quo one. It really was a shame that Monsoon's Ever So Lonely was not played yet again, even though it was rising the twenty.

Boz says it was one of the worst top two's ever. Not a chance and not even remotely close. Nearer to a best than worst for me. Highlander Ian we're in rock solid agreement yet again. Now there's a surprise. ”

I wish I still had some of my chart tapes from that era. I think I still have a couple from Summer /Autumn of '83.

Yep, I've always really liked 'One Step Further' but I've always been a sucker for Eurovision. Sally Anne Triplett also had a hand in there somewhere! 'Love Games' was another great one from 1984.

Like yourself Rich, I have no interest in football (F1 and snooker are my sports) but I really like 'We Have a Dream'. A great fun track with a nice tune. I'm not anti English as I'm a Unionist (despite my user name). I do remember being miffed that 'We Have a Dream' peaked at No.5 and 'This Time We'll Get It Right' made No.2. 'Three Lions' is another great football song.

That chart from 1982 just had so many great songs in there. I agree that 'Shirley' was the worst thing that Shaky put out at the time and its short-lived chart run mirrors this. I loved Monsoon and a shame he had to skip it. Would have been nice to hear Chas and Dave and Bucks Fizz ('My Camera Never Lies' didn't hang around did it? <33-5-2-1-2-11-26>)
I didn't mind 'Dear John' but I do like Status Quo this era. Roxy's 'More Than This' is great. I bought the single at the time. I also bought Elton's 'Blue Eyes'. I remember that doing quite well in America. Didn't Paul Gambo use to do the American chart countdown on a Saturday afternoon at the time?
Darren_928
04-05-2015
I am playing thread catchup tonight .. busy couple of weeks for me

The April 1979 chart was worth listening to last week - really upbeat sound to it!

This week's 1982 chart was great - they don't make 'em like that anymore! Promised You a Miracle is so dramatic

Can't wait for May 1987 ... a really memorable period for music. I won't look the chart up ..... I like the surprise element
Apprentice 2 SA
05-05-2015
When Fluff did POTP on Capital in 1982 he took two charts 'Take Two' and alternated them. A scooped version of this show has been available for some time, and I've edited back in the music, so it's now a full show.

You can share the link with anyone you want, but please don't distribute your copy of the download - it just means I get to see through downloads how successful the project's been. It may even encourage me to do another one!

http://www.mediafire.com/download/6g..._with_1958.zip
ClareB
06-05-2015
I should've got round to commenting on this earlier, but here's my comments on the few songs that weren't played last year when Tony did 1982 from two weeks previous to this chart.

37 FORGET ME NOTS - PATRICE RUSHEN - Excellent club classic to kick off this chart. Never mind the times it's been sampled, the original is definitely the best.
20 DEAR JOHN - STATUS QUO - Bog standard Quo. Not one of their most memorable songs.
15 NIGHT BIRDS - SHAKATAK - Nice bit of jazz funk, though if I had to choose a fave of theirs it's without doubt Down On The Street.
14 MORE THAN THIS - ROXY MUSIC - I'm by no means a Roxy expert, but I do know that I completely adore this and would've been gutted had it been skipped.

Not Played
12 AIN'T NO PLEASING YOU - CHAS AND DAVE - An absolute crime this wasn't played but no doubt they would've dug out a re-recorded version of this, though I've never heard one.
11 MY CAMERA NEVER LIES BUCKS FIZZ - Probably one of their least remembered hits, certainly out of their number ones, but one of the my faves. I just love the bits where the two lines crash into each other - I must apologise/It doesn't matter anymore to you...
Rich Tea.
07-05-2015
My Camera Never Lies is one of Bucks Fizz's least remembered hits Clare? I'll respectfully disagree with you on that.

The final Roxy Music hit later in 1982 from the Avalon album is definitely one of their more forgotten hits but is almost the equal of More Than This, and that is Take A Chance With Me which missed the top twenty but is another very classy well constructed song with a wonderful intro full of atmosphere.
Boz_Lowdownl
07-05-2015
Originally Posted by ClareB:
“I should've got round to commenting on this earlier, but here's my comments on the few songs that weren't played last year when Tony did 1982 from two weeks previous to this chart.

37 FORGET ME NOTS - PATRICE RUSHEN - Excellent club classic to kick off this chart. Never mind the times it's been sampled, the original is definitely the best.
20 DEAR JOHN - STATUS QUO - Bog standard Quo. Not one of their most memorable songs.
15 NIGHT BIRDS - SHAKATAK - Nice bit of jazz funk, though if I had to choose a fave of theirs it's without doubt Down On The Street.
14 MORE THAN THIS - ROXY MUSIC - I'm by no means a Roxy expert, but I do know that I completely adore this and would've been gutted had it been skipped.

Not Played
12 AIN'T NO PLEASING YOU - CHAS AND DAVE - An absolute crime this wasn't played but no doubt they would've dug out a re-recorded version of this, though I've never heard one.
11 MY CAMERA NEVER LIES BUCKS FIZZ - Probably one of their least remembered hits, certainly out of their number ones, but one of the my faves. I just love the bits where the two lines crash into each other - I must apologise/It doesn't matter anymore to you...”

Just to take issue with two points. Dear John certainly is not bog standard Quo, it has much more of a melody and stands out to me as one of their best songs. And I don't think My Camera is one of BF's least remembered hits, I would say the exact opposite. Edit: Just seen Rich agrees about My Camera!
highlander1969
07-05-2015
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“My Camera Never Lies is one of Bucks Fizz's least remembered hits Clare? I'll respectfully disagree with you on that.

The final Roxy Music hit later in 1982 from the Avalon album is definitely one of their more forgotten hits but is almost the equal of More Than This, and that is Take A Chance With Me which missed the top twenty but is another very classy well constructed song with a wonderful intro full of atmosphere.”

Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“Just to take issue with two points. Dear John certainly is not bog standard Quo, it has much more of a melody and stands out to me as one of their best songs. And I don't think My Camera is one of BF's least remembered hits, I would say the exact opposite. Edit: Just seen Rich agrees about My Camera!”

I tend to agree with Clare. 'My Camera Never Lies' is surely way overshadowed by both 'Making Your Mind Up' and 'Land of Make Believe'. I still like it as I do most Bucks Fizz songs.
Boz_Lowdownl
07-05-2015
Originally Posted by highlander1969:
“I tend to agree with Clare. 'My Camera Never Lies' is surely way overshadowed by both 'Making Your Mind Up' and 'Land of Make Believe'. I still like it as I do most Bucks Fizz songs. ”

That's a bit like saying all other Beatles songs are way overshadowed by Hey Jude and She Loves You! A group can have more than two memorable songs.
highlander1969
07-05-2015
Originally Posted by Boz_Lowdownl:
“That's a bit like saying all other Beatles songs are way overshadowed by Hey Jude and She Loves You! A group can have more than two memorable songs.”

I was only comparing Bucks Fizz's 3 No.1 singles.
Rich Tea.
09-05-2015
Originally Posted by highlander1969:
“I was only comparing Bucks Fizz's 3 No.1 singles.”

Looking at 1982 and No1 singles, a group that had their 3rd and 4th chart toppers were of course The Jam. Now I would definitely say that their final hit and No1 at the end of the year, Beat Surrender, was a very unmemorable No1 single of theirs which is surely mostly overlooked. Infact more unmemorable than many of their far more modest sized hits. One of the poorer No1's of 1982 as well.
Jedikiah
09-05-2015
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“Looking at 1982 and No1 singles, a group that had their 3rd and 4th chart toppers were of course The Jam. Now I would definitely say that their final hit and No1 at the end of the year, Beat Surrender, was a very unmemorable No1 single of theirs which is surely mostly overlooked. Infact more unmemorable than many of their far more modest sized hits. One of the poorer No1's of 1982 as well.”

I would definitely agree with you there, Rich Tea. "Beat Surrender" sounds very workmanlike in my opinion, with really very little inspiration behind it. Paul Weller also looked very self conscious on Top Of The Pops, with his hands placed deliberately behind his back, with Tracie Young (who was also briefly with The Style Council) standing alongside him. Bruce Foxton and Rick Butler looked out of place. It certainly pointed to the soul sound Weller would be introducing into The Style Council, although with them he also recorded a few classics too, along the way. "Town Called Malice" was a worthy no 1 by The Jam from earlier in 1982, but that song aside, i think the Jam struggled a little in the wake of their first no 1 "Going Underground", although a song like "Funeral Pyre" was very interesting, in terms of its sound. The group certainly didn't stand still, but not everything worked as well as it might.
FM Lover
09-05-2015
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“Looking at 1982 and No1 singles, a group that had their 3rd and 4th chart toppers were of course The Jam. Now I would definitely say that their final hit and No1 at the end of the year, Beat Surrender, was a very unmemorable No1 single of theirs which is surely mostly overlooked. Infact more unmemorable than many of their far more modest sized hits. One of the poorer No1's of 1982 as well.”

It would be difficult for a lot of listeners to realise just how big The Jam were in the early 80's. 4 number ones and all their other hits all huge Top 10 hits with always high position new entries.

Even two Top 30 hits only available on import, including one of their best ever songs That's Entertainment, showing the length fans would go to.

For me two of their finest songs, Funeral Pyre and Absolute Beginners, both from 1981 just don't get played on the radio these days which is a huge shame.

Just a pity that Paul Weller won't even entertain a reunion with Rick and Bruce as I'm sure shows would sell out in record time.
alcockell
09-05-2015
Hi all -

Hour 1 - http://www.officialcharts.com/charts.../19650506/7501
TOTP -
6-5-65: Presenter: Pete Murray (Wiped)

(NEW) THE SEARCHERS – Bumble Bee
(13) HERMAN’S HERMITS – Wonderful World ®
(11) JACKIE TRENT – Where Are You Now (My Love)
(20) JIM REEVES – Not Until The Next Time (video)
(7) PETER & GORDON – True Love Ways ®
(2) ROGER MILLER – King Of The Road ®
(6) THE BARRON KNIGHTS – Pop Go The Workers ®
(25) THE IVY LEAGUE – That’s Why I’m Crying
(3) THE SEEKERS – A World Of Our Own
(1) THE BEATLES – Ticket To Ride ®
alcockell
09-05-2015
Hour 2 - http://www.officialcharts.com/charts.../19870503/7501
TOTP -
07/05/87 (Mike Smith)
Living In A Box – “Living In A Box” (6)
Fleetwood Mac – “Big Love” (13) (video)
Depeche Mode – “Strangelove” (23) This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by WMG
Spear Of Destiny – “Never Take Me Alive” (19) WATCH
Europe – “Carrie” (27) (breaker)
The Cult – “Lil’ Devil” (17) (breaker)
Sly & Robbie – “Boops (Here To Go)” (22) This video has been removed by the user
Starship – “Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now” (1) (video)
Kim Wilde & Junior – “Another Step (Closer To You)” (9) (video/credits)
Darren_928
09-05-2015
I loved the 1987 chart this week . They really don't make songs like that anymore. A lot of the artists were in their thirties and forties back then .... nowadays an artist is over-the-hill at 30!
Rich Tea.
09-05-2015
Originally Posted by Darren_928:
“I loved the 1987 chart this week . They really don't make songs like that anymore. A lot of the artists were in their thirties and forties back then .... nowadays an artist is over-the-hill at 30!”

Even back in 1987 it was rather unusual to see acts like both Labi Siffre and Tom Jones having massive top five hits at the same time. The Labi Siffre single is probably one of the strongest songs in that chart. Compared to 1982 last week, just 5 years later the lesser production quality on many of the 1987 hits is quite obvious. For me the late 80's is now the most dated sounding era in pop music.

That Fine Young Cannibals version of Ever Fallen In Love did not sound the same as the version I recall them having in the charts from that time. It was a limp and lifeless construct with about as much energy as a flat battery.
Robbie01
09-05-2015
Originally Posted by FM Lover:
“It would be difficult for a lot of listeners to realise just how big The Jam were in the early 80's. 4 number ones and all their other hits all huge Top 10 hits with always high position new entries.

Even two Top 30 hits only available on import, including one of their best ever songs That's Entertainment, showing the length fans would go to.

For me two of their finest songs, Funeral Pyre and Absolute Beginners, both from 1981 just don't get played on the radio these days which is a huge shame.

Just a pity that Paul Weller won't even entertain a reunion with Rick and Bruce as I'm sure shows would sell out in record time.”

Weller has worked with Bruce Foxton in the past few years and they have appeared together on stage playing a couple of Jam tracks but it seems as though there's no chance of Weller and Rick Buckler ever being in the same room let alone playing in the same band. Weller has also ruled out on many occasions the possibility of there ever being a Jam reunion.

Apparently Weller and Buckler haven't spoken to each other since The Jam split other than saying "hello" when they bumped into each other at some concert in 1987. Buckler says that Weller just walked away after saying his "hello". And now Buckler and Foxton are apparently not speaking to one another since Foxton went back to working with Weller.
highlander1969
10-05-2015
Originally Posted by Rich Tea.:
“Looking at 1982 and No1 singles, a group that had their 3rd and 4th chart toppers were of course The Jam. Now I would definitely say that their final hit and No1 at the end of the year, Beat Surrender, was a very unmemorable No1 single of theirs which is surely mostly overlooked. Infact more unmemorable than many of their far more modest sized hits. One of the poorer No1's of 1982 as well.”

Ooh Rich, we can fundamentally agree and disagree!! Whilst I agree that 'Beat Surrender' is probably not The Jam's most memorable single it happens to be one of my favourites. I bought it the week it was released and played it to death at the time.
It was almost destined to go in at No.1 boosted by the fact that it was announced at the time that it would be their final single.
There's just something about it that I love and it still gives me the same feeling when I listen to it today.
Glancing back through the No.1's of 1982, on the whole, there are many great songs. I hope you don't put 'Beat Surrender' below 'Oh Julie', 'Pass the Dutchie' or 'Save Your Love' though


Originally Posted by Jedikiah:
“I would definitely agree with you there, Rich Tea. "Beat Surrender" sounds very workmanlike in my opinion, with really very little inspiration behind it. Paul Weller also looked very self conscious on Top Of The Pops, with his hands placed deliberately behind his back, with Tracie Young (who was also briefly with The Style Council) standing alongside him. Bruce Foxton and Rick Butler looked out of place. It certainly pointed to the soul sound Weller would be introducing into The Style Council, although with them he also recorded a few classics too, along the way. "Town Called Malice" was a worthy no 1 by The Jam from earlier in 1982, but that song aside, i think the Jam struggled a little in the wake of their first no 1 "Going Underground", although a song like "Funeral Pyre" was very interesting, in terms of its sound. The group certainly didn't stand still, but not everything worked as well as it might.”

I think 'Beat Surrender' and their penultimate release 'The Bitterest Pill....' was the stepping stone for Weller to move on to The Style Council.
Wasn't 'A Solid Bond in Your Heart' (released at the end of '83 by The Style Council) originally going to be the final Jam single? I can hear similarities between that and 'Beat Surrender'.

Originally Posted by FM Lover:
“It would be difficult for a lot of listeners to realise just how big The Jam were in the early 80's. 4 number ones and all their other hits all huge Top 10 hits with always high position new entries.

Even two Top 30 hits only available on import, including one of their best ever songs That's Entertainment, showing the length fans would go to.

For me two of their finest songs, Funeral Pyre and Absolute Beginners, both from 1981 just don't get played on the radio these days which is a huge shame.

Just a pity that Paul Weller won't even entertain a reunion with Rick and Bruce as I'm sure shows would sell out in record time.”

'Funeral Pyre' was the first Jam single I bought. Not so chart friendly as some of their other tracks. I remember being shocked when it entered at No.4 and the next week it was a non mover. I was relatively new to the charts having only really been 'involved' since the end of 1980 and hadn't been aware of that happening very often!

Perhaps in June we'll get a chance to hear it on a 1981 POTP's. Maybe some of the lyrics aren't really Tony (or Radio 2) 'friendly'.

"As I was standing by the edge
I could see the faces of those led pissing theirselves laughing
Their mad eyes buldged their flushed faces said
The weak get crushed as the strong grow stronger

We feast on flesh and drink on blood
Live by fear and despise love in a crises
Bring some paper and bring some wood
Bring what's left of all your love for the fire
We'll watch the flames grow higher!
But if you get too burnt - you can't come back home"

Even for Weller, these lyrics were dark!
Multimedia81
10-05-2015
Considering that Tony featured 1987 on 18.5.13, this means that he has featured 1987 on not quite the 2nd anniversary so not an identical chart. I'd have liked him to have played Sheila Take a Bow, as I associated it with April Skies, which he did play.

Coincidentally, not only did Tony play Dave Berry's Little Things yesterday, but so did Diana Luke on her 60s show yesterday evening, as Tim's humdinger in fact!

When next week Tony features 1959 and 1967, it means that he will play none of the last 48 years. Has he ever kept both years for one POTP this long ago?
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